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Yes pls do I made my point

Great recognize great

At some point, when every coach except DKR and for a time Mack gets ground into dust its not them its you

Its a combination of many factors. Here is a partial listing. Arrogance, but lots of programs are arrogant. Fractured mega-booster base (Houston vs Dallas for example) Serious academic institution that has real standards to uphold (not a bad thing but part of it) Huge mid-level booster base capable of serious interference Lack of cohesion between AD and booster base at any level 5 leads to poorly run searches for major mens coaches because there is no comprehensively orchestrated and executed strategy In general, a badly run (especially historically) athletic department as it relates to major mens sports (contributes to 5) Country club atmosphere Only a few brief periods of success interrupted by LONG periods of mediocrity gets ingrained at some point Texas believes that everyone wants to coach at Texas. Some coaches dont give a fuck about Texas. Texas believes that Texas should be elite just because its Texas, there is no thought of excruciating level of effort required to achieve maintained success at the highest levels 11 means that fans believe you hire a good coach, you recruit the same 4-5* like always, put them in the country club, and success naturally follows. It doesnt.

I concede. Your one outlier example proves tour argument correct.

You are correct I believe UT suffers from a singularly unique pathology. Maybe that would explain things. Have you thought about that?

Yes, he WILL come here if he thinks he can win according the wisdom of this thread.

At the direction and coordination of the AD dip shit. Not each donor unilaterally going out and pursuing their own agenda. Why is this so hard?

I think the AD fucking sucks balls and that is also part of the problem that I think Urban would ponder.

He manages the donors and addresses their concerns and engages them in the process but he doesn’t let them run it or go rogue themselves. This sounds crazy I know, but it’s like how every other school does it.

I know this is a foreign concept but the AD does it.

Of course we are closer to winning than USC. We’re Texas.

I didn’t say any of that. I was pointing out you said “Urban WILL come here if he thinks he can win.

Exactly then they will think they are owed things like access and every damn other thing.

You already have Urban coming here as long as he thinks he can win? This is fucking precisely the arrogance I am talking about. Everyone’s dream job must be Texas.

That would be a goddamned blessing were it to occur at Texas.

It is very Texas centric. Your point is fair. I just think there are less outside forces weighing down the football program there. It’s a smaller department for one, less alumni that care about football, just easier to be sure you could do whatever you thought was necessary.

I certainly think there is less to fix there.

I did. You just can’t figure it out.

Thank you.

I lean strongly that you are a total fucking idiot and a big part of the problem.

Which forces? The arrogant forces of the country club atmosphere that makes players, fans, alumni etc think Texas should win just because “We’re Texas” and not because of CEASELESS MAXIMUM EFFORT which is a core tenet of Urbans philosophy definitely not present at Texas and something I think Urban may have a serious reservation about.

Look here. This is part of what I am talking about folks.

No my argument is that he will not come because he might not be successful because of forces totally outside of his control which is exactly the kind of thing successful intelligent people think about for your information

Thanks I know