DenverHorn

All based on the simple basis of "are there risks?", certainly but to what extent and that's where both CV19 & myocarditis prove to be a non factor vs existing a well documented risks. Myocarditis risk & awareness is not new to athletics, it just never before hit the radar due to being rare and the lesser of more predominant concerns (CTE, steroid abuse, pain killers, obesity etc). By the same measure the sport should have been cancelled years ago. The issues being bantered today wouldn't even make it to the short list of a debate on why to cancel competitive athletics.

I respectfully challenge this line of thought. I think we have a solid grasp on COVID & myocarditis cases as related to likelihood, detection & risk evaluation.

I'm on this page. To my understanding, myocarditis or any cardiomyopathy risks from CV19 are easier to detect, more manageable and less likely to occur than any of the existing threats players encounter by the realistic nature of the sport (CTE, pain killers, steroids, opioids, heart disease etc.), I could care less if the season goes on or not compared to my concerns that decisions are being made based on politics, single minded analysis or path of least resistance. Economics & secondary health/life effects to be blunt are my long term concerns. As it relates to the B1G, the primary economic impact from 5-7 home games ( businesses within the county alone) equates to a billion+ in revenue conference wide. The secondary losses would include state & local taxes, surrounding counties & the domino effect that trickles down from everyone associated AKA the entire community. Iowa City, State College, Ann Arbor, Champaign, Lafayette etc will be devastated and without consideration to the academic/regular student population which makes it even more concerning. If it's a clear & present threat it needs the attention & decisions it deserves, I just haven't seen any empirical evidence to suggest it's the real issue or an outstanding threat. Otherwise if not equally, one must take into consideration the back end which is a definitive & certain issue. Open & willing to listen & learn, til then...

Show some heart, think about that day you found out the Easter Bunny isn't real but at least you still had Santa Claus.

I'll see your Divac & raise ya a Leyland

The "30-35% appear" was laughable to say the least, glad someone looked into it & rectified his comments. Myocarditis has been on the radar for sports for some time, smoke screen from the start. Next week the B1G will be back on for Oct start.. PAC 12 will play as well just a question of which month in the fall.

Gorman Thomas in the 80's/Brewers as well... after he knocked down a sixer in the half hour prior to his first at bat.

Comparing uncomplicated viral myocarditis to the threat of CTE, heart disease & opioid addiction is a deck chair off the Queen Mary. Not to mention it is easily detectable & manageable (rest therapy). On the rare occasion these athletes are diagnosed with acute myocarditis.. sorry kid, you'll need to sit this year out.

Halftime Super Bowl I Chiefs QB Len Dawson. Throw in Kenny Stabler & our own Bobby Layne... as long as they are on an equal playing field there will be competitive & entertaining competition regardless of the preparation. May the best team win.

Nah, just the ones who end up on the wrong of reality when everything plays out.

No life guard at this end of the pool Doc, best you stay in the shallow end before your feathers take on too much.

You like communism, I got it.. to each their own.

Who gives a shit? A lot of people. An inside force altered this originally & now member and outside forces are applying counter thoughts and pressure. Politics don't just start then halt, there is always a counter movement. When you don't have a countering factor it's called communism.

Big Ten network execs think it's coming back in October as of today.

Biden has ads with empty Michigan stadium & points to "All because of Trump". These events are all politically motivated from each side left/right blue/red.

That's exactly why the B1G was shut down in the first place. Take a look at the new commissioners partisan involvement and agendas he initiated as soon as he took the position with the B1G. https://sports.yahoo.com/can-the-big-ten-swing-a-presidential-election-kevin-warren-wants-to-find-out-180131201.html Look at the process by which Warren came to the decision to cancel the fall participation. I say Warren due to who he focused his presentation to, who he listened to & the effect of the final vote by the administrative leadership of each school. All was good until the U of Michigan cardiologist pitched in combined with reporters digging into the "vote" process. https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/university-of-michigan-cardiologist-says-big-ten-used-a-flawed-study-to-make-decisions/ https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/penn-state-ad-now-not-even-sure-if-there-was-a-vote-to-cancel-2020-big-ten-season/ What we are witnessing plays into the election immensely. Trumps involvement with Warren today is a sure signal the right is pushing back against what they feel is manipulated overplay. Time will tell who is in the right, but don't doubt that politics were behind the original decision and continue to influence the process of whether to play in the fall or not. Election year 2020, nothing is what it appears to be on the surface.

Stay away from urban areas run by Democrats festered with BLM/Antifa and you'll be fine.

And you'll be hard pressed to find people who have died with COVID had comorbidity factors and under the age of 75. The facts to consider in totality: -Medical coding was changed last year as it relates to COVID. It became a far more liberal reporting & dramatically effects the comparison to influenza, pneumonia & swine flu data. -6% of cases were without comorbidity, the avg death from the "180k+" numbers had 2.6+ comorbidity factors involved - The most important factor to consider is the avg age of the deceased.. 78. 78 years old is the standard life expectancy in our country. The key point here is not that their lives don't matter. Point is that they are one foot in the grave with or without the virus & should be quarantined accordingly as most already were. What we do with the other 99% of the population should have been addressed on far different terms & by a different strategy. Unless you are near standard death age & have multiple health issues this virus is not reflective of how we have handled it as a society. Sadly the majority of the population are ingrained with partisan values and flawed by poor logic. The reality is playing out before our very eyes, with every passing week the picture gets clearer for those willing & able to see. The data on topic here has been available from the onset, not on here but across the world. The latter is of importance as we report COVID morbidity far different than most countries.

Wrong. The deceased Garrett Foster had the social media video taunting anti protesters & the facebook comments saying he didnt care if police officers died/their lives don't matter.

Matches everything i've heard and what we've seen... certain parties/personalities fall in line with shut down mentality and the other side flows with "move on" thought process. The new B1G commish is off to a rough start, end result might have been the same, but his position is to hear all sides and placate to the right decision vs assumption and one sided discovery.

Have some reality, fresh out of your own kitchen the CDC. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

COVID hasnt killed 7k in a week in 3 months, fluffing numbers deflates the value of the message.

I actually fear for their lives the next time they have to go to College Station. That is simply balls deep & I love it.

Beau Vine your sock or do you just go to the girls room at the same time to do your makeup?

Decisions are tough to make when you have so many unknowns & in this case indirect effects can emerge as a "more certain" catastrophe than the original cause itself. Take a look at the endowments of the conferences that passed on fall sports vs those that are still on board (especially the one who is hell bent/SEC). Now the argument becomes "are these poorer schools acting selfishly to avoid bankruptcy risks?".. "acting on the best interests of the players and science/safer under team care than general student population?" or are they considering the big picture as it relates to the domino effect of a bankrupt college on a small town & the long term health & morbidity impact? Interesting times for sure, I'll run with money/economics driving these decisions until proven otherwise. Then we can all discuss the origin of the virus & what motive possibly drove it's existence & mysterious release into our population. I'll lean towards power & money on the latter.