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16 hours ago, Dbeasy said:
We’ve had three vaccines total, the first three offered. We never got the fourth, or the re-mixed one. Thoughts on getting a shot? We don’t want to ruin our June vacation to Europe by catching Covid. Again.
Who the fuck knows? Maybe wait till a month or two out from the trip? I got the bivalent in September just after it came out, probably too close to my first run with Covid in retrospect. But I was going to a conference for work and had a vacation scheduled for shortly after the conference (which would have been my second vacation ruined by Covid). Didn't get Covid at the conference. Just got it for the second time, a couple weeks ago despite four shots, although it was very mild. Basically a couple days of congestion, with a fever the first night.
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We're arguing clinical depression makes him unfit to serve? WTF. Someone shoulda told this guy:
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29 minutes ago, bolverk said:
Y'all are overlooking the most salient point. She's mad as hell she can't say the n-word in public...yet.
She does realize that she'd be living in the "blue" country in the divorce, right? No, no she doesn't.
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The powers that be are treating trump like a white collar criminal and not like someone who committed a violent crime and is a danger to society every minute he remains free. That's the disconnect.
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20 minutes ago, KYHorn said:
I don't know about "more likely" or "most", as Kentucky was at a cultural crossroads in the civil war, but there was an ardent abolitionist movement in Kentucky that was tied to religion, including the founding of the first interracial college in the South by John Fee (a minister), as well as prominent abolitionists like Cassius M Clay, and Justice Harlan. They certainly faced resistance, but also found support. Transylvania Seminary (now Transylvania College) was also founded by abolitionists.
I also don't really know how vital this information is, one way or another, to determining whether the current events will lead to positive social change.
I guess I'm skeptical that this universally White group is going to lead to positive social change at a college that didn't admit it's first Black student until 1967.
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8 hours ago, NWBuck said:
True- But those "works" also inspired the Civil Right movement... so, fingers crossed??
Were southern based White churches involved in the Civil Rights movement, or more likely to be segregationist? Weren't most of the churches involved in the Civil Rights movement, at least in places like small town Kentucky Black churches?
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Went 2 plus years without getting it. Now have it for the second time in about 6 months. Fuck. Managed to do a bunch of overseas trips without getting it, but apparently a long weekend at an Airbnb in the middle of nowhere was a bridge too far late last week. Mostly just really, really tired.
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Jesus. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/07/us/tyre-nichols-photo-memphis-demetrius-haley.html
QuoteAs Tyre Nichols sat propped against a police car, bloodied, dazed and handcuffed after being beaten by a group of Memphis police officers, one of those officers took a picture of him and sent it to at least five people, the Memphis Police Department said in documents released by the state on Tuesday.
The documents painted a picture of repeated misconduct by the officers, starting in the first moments after Mr. Nichols was pulled over for a traffic stop, through an arrest carried out with excessive force and continuing on through the many minutes when Mr. Nichols lay on the street in dire need of medical help.
Sending the photograph to acquaintances, including at least one outside of the Police Department, violated policies about keeping information confidential, according to the documents. But police officials said it was also part of a pattern of mocking, abusive and “blatantly unprofessional” behavior by the officers that also included shouting profanities at Mr. Nichols, laughing after the beating and “bragging” about their involvement.
The revelations came in internal affairs documents that the Memphis Police Department sent to a state agency, in which the department asked for the five officers — who have been charged with second-degree murder in Mr. Nichols’s death — to be decertified, meaning they could no longer work as police officers anywhere in the state.
In the documents, police officials described how the officers worked together as they severely beat Mr. Nichols, appeared to relish the assault afterward and then made a series of omissions and false claims in their reports about what happened.
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That asshole. I refuse to listen to his voice, so hopefully this is an accurate summary of the "speech" he posted on his hell site yesterday.
QuoteTrump said he would push Congress to pass a law banning gender-affirming care for minors nationwide, order the Justice Department to investigate the pharmaceutical industry and hospitals to see whether they “deliberately covered up horrific long-term side effects of sex transitions in order to get rich” and cut off doctors from Medicare and Medicaid — a potential career-ender for many doctors — if they treat trans youths with hormones or surgery.
In addition, he said he would make it easier for patients who later regret having received gender-affirming care as minors to sue their doctors, calling the procedures “unforgivable.”
Trump also said his policy changes would extend to education.
He has already vowed to create a “new credentialing body for teachers” regarding the teaching of race history, adding that the panel would “promote positive education about the nuclear family, the roles of mothers and fathers and celebrating, rather than erasing, the things that make men and women different.”
He said his Education Department would impose “severe consequences” on any teachers or school officials who “suggest to a child that they could be trapped in the wrong body,” which could include civil rights penalties for the individuals and a loss of federal funding for schools.
“The left-wing gender insanity being pushed at our children is an act of child abuse. Very simple. Here’s my plan to stop the chemical, physical and emotional mutilation of our youth,” Trump said.
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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:
One thing that's a little odd, though, is SS's response:
"All these interviews were on the record and recorded with President Trump's knowledge and agreement," reads the statement provided to NPR. "Moreover, it is in the public interest to have this historical record in Trump's own words. We are confident that the facts and the law are in our favor."
The bolded doesn't seem relevant to whether Trump consented to use of the tapes. Maybe it's there to avoid some kind of oral modification of the consent, or whether the scope of the consent included an audiobook of the actual recordings themselves. Or maybe it's to cut off some kind of right of publicity, NIL type claim on his voice, which might arguably be outside the scope of the consent/license.
I'm probably missing something. But why would trump need to consent to use of the tapes? Woodward taped him on equipment he, or S & S owned, in connection with an interview trump agreed to. I don't think trump got a share of the profits from Woodward's book... I don't see why Woodward and Simon & Schuster couldn't do whatever the hell they wanted with the tapes.
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Jesus, there was finally one of these bad enough, or the officers Black enough, that my local PD actually issued a statement condemning them. Signed up for general town alerts (eg. no trash pickup tomorrow), and this actually showed up in my inbox. I'm not sure how I feel about it. They're saying the right things now, but I doubt they're actually doing them. And they sure as fuck didn't say anything about George Floyd, Breona Taylor, or any of the other police murders.
QuoteThe release of the Tyre Nichols video tonight will undoubtedly evoke feelings of anger, fear, and profound sadness. This was an unspeakable act that is contrary to the values of the XXX Police Department.
The officers who assaulted and ultimately killed Mr. Nichols should be held accountable for their actions and their failure to intercede.
The XXX Police Department sends its deepest condolences to the Nichols family.
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42 minutes ago, 52-80 said:
we're all talking about this case because we clearly all have interest/fascination in it. we pour over the video because the details and justification and understanding deserves it. if/when background information about the police comes out, that deserves to have a spotlight put on it as well.
this is the same thing that they would do at court, on both sides of the court room. why do you insinuate it to be a BAD THING?
You seem to have appointed yourself as their defense attorney. I'm not sure why you would want to voluntarily take on that assignment. To the extent this is "the same thing they would do in court, on both sides." I call bs. Whether or not the victim was driving erratically is completely irrelevant to them murdering him. It's like the defense attorneys back in the day, digging into a rape victim's sexual history to try and justify their client being a rapist.
Which i guess means that given America and Blue Lives Matter this will all come into play. I can't fathom purposefully taking that position on a message board in my free time though. But you do you.
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1 minute ago, ztejas said:
The reason I asked why he was pulled over and why he ran is because unless he had a warrant for some serious shit or had years worth of prison time in his car there isn't any reason to run. That would lend credence to the idea that it was potentially a targeted attack.
I'm not sure that makes sense though because surely the officers knew that all of this would wind up on camera. So what would their plan have been had he not resisted arrest? Cuff him then do something to him in jail? Is there a way they could have more clandestinely given him a beating?
I think these lawsuits are going to be fascinating.
I'm wondering how many other times these cops did this. They acted with impunity, because they thought there would be no consequences. Probably because there haven't been consequences for decades upon decades.
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31 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:
You know if we're going all in on thunderdome, maybe the Memphis cops can pull him over on trumped up reckless driving allegations.
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6 minutes ago, 52-80 said:
incontrovertible statement because nobody has argued against it; cops do not have the prerogative to execute anyone.
the cop claims in video they tried to call the stop using "sirens" (they mean the lights?). at the actual stop at the light, he was boxed in by identical dodge chargers, the lights were full lit, and the cops were all in lettered uniform, not plainclothes.
any suggestion that, at that point, he didnt know their legitimacy doesnt hold water.
None of this fucking matters. You're spending a ridiculous amount of time analyzing the intricacies of the video to try and understand the murders' side of things.
But you're also moving goalposts in an attempt to defend the indefensible. I never suggested that when he was pulled over he didn't know they were police. You said he was driving 80 mph and driving erratically. I responded that that might be a logical fucking reaction to being aggressively followed at night in an unmarked car. I said nothing about the actual stop at the light.
I'm also not sure why you're giving all this credibility to the self-serving statements of people you also saw brutally murdering a man.
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7 minutes ago, 52-80 said:video 4 at 13:30 on the vimeo stream has 1 cop describe that they flashed lights and used the megaphone at him, but he drove was swerving around and "almost ran into the cruiser" and drove away evasively
video 1 on the vimeo stream has the bodycam showing them driving 80mph down the city road, so they were probably giving pursuit
theres no dash cam to show the actual chase or tyre's alleged driving prior to stopping at the light.
I don't give a fuck how badly he was driving, it doesn't make any fucking difference. He's still a human being. The cops don't get to summarily execute speeders.
And to the extent it matters, and it doesn't, evading an unmarked car chasing after him at night seems like a normal reaction. Who the fuck stops for an unmarked car chasing after you at 10 pm? And he would have been right. There were murderous psychopaths in the car.
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Some of the most incompetent police work I've ever seen.
I wonder why he got pulled over and why he tried to run away.
Given that the people he tried to run away from brutally murdered him a few minutes later, apparently for shits and giggles, I’d say his first instinct was spot on.
I don’t care why he was pulled over. He didn’t deserve that and the psychopaths who pulled him over deserve to rot in prison for the rest of their days.-
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2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:
Hell, John Mellencamp noticed it 40 years ago:
There's a black man with a black cat
Livin' in a black neighborhood
He's got an interstate runnin' through his front yard
You know he thinks he's got it so goodHell, the Environmental Equity Work Group of the EPA was established by that noted libtard George HW Bush in 1990. And then established the Office of Environmental Justice in 1992. Obviously this is all a far left fabrication from 30 years into the future.
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35 minutes ago, Incredulity said:
God lord. Only here could my posts be labeled, “right wing extremist”. Unreal.
34 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:only here?
as compared to where, exactly?
a-ha. i understand the distinction. thanks.
Well, if your point of reference is the 2023 American "right wing" you're probably correct. When the mainstream figures of the "right" are Elise Stefanik, Gym Jordan, MTG, Dotard, and Tucker, then everything to the left of that is a "left wing circle jerk."
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23 minutes ago, 'stache said:
A bunch of those abortion laws were passed before RBG died and before the case was active. They had a trigger mechanism in case Roe was overturned but the feeling was that it was sound, until RGB died. I just see it different. They aren't going to strip tenure. They know that it will kill the major colleges in the state. I'll buy everyone a pizza if they actually do anything other than bitch about "librul" professors.
They've been going around defunding libraries, purportedly for loaning books they don't approve of. And laws interfering with elementary school teachers' ability to teach. Why do you think they'll stop there?
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I can't remember that trump quote anymore with specifics. But in 2015ish he said something to the effect that when there's riots, everything's burning, and chaos, then he can take control. That's what this is about. Gaetz and Boebert aren't smart enough to think this through. But their Russian handlers are.
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4 minutes ago, 'stache said:
SCOTUS had to issue a ruling and were itching to do so the second RBG died. Politicians don't have to do shit, and the right has mastered that part of the game.
Sure. And if politicians hadn't enacted laws outlawing abortion and creating crimes for women and their health care providers, the SCOTUS ruling wouldn't matter worth a damn.
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It won’t. Desantis would send them to a godless immoral hellish blue state where they’d get their abortions.