lemonlime

I’m not sure what you’re saying. Trump went to scotus to get the classified docs before the special master. If there’s no special master there’s nothing to bring before him.

What would be stayed, though? If Cannon's order is vacated, there's no special master, and there's nothing to stay from the special master's review.

Wouldn't this also give trump access to the classified documents, assuming he's successful? Which to be clear, while I have pretty much lost faith in the justice system, think is unlikely, if for no other reason than Thomas gave the DOJ a briefing schedule that didn't suggest any urgency, and if he's lost Thomas . . .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/05/when-rally-goer-suggested-shooting-immigrants-may-trump-made-joke/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/20/they-left-food-water-migrants-desert-now-they-might-go-prison/

Yeah. Nobody’s angry at health care providers right now. The US healthcare system is understaffed and filled with patients who can’t pay for basic care and also can’t get answers about the care itself due to the understaffing. It’s a toxic stew. And that was before covid and right wing talking points about lies about covid treatment/vaccination etc and fake outrage over gender affirmation surgery.

It’s the good advice you just didn’t take.

Years ago I ate lunch at the Taj Mahal. I’m known for eating anything. I had to send my food back because it was inedible. And my drink back because there was a fly floating in my wine

There are multiple reports on the twitters that trump filed his objections under seal. Not sure why it’s not showing pacer. Also Teri Kanefield is a really good twitter follow for information on the legal proceedings.

Also, in fuck around and find out

Lo fucking l. He’s also requiring that this be in the form of a sworn affidavit from trump.

Maybe. I doubt they care for this case. But they may want the whole thing struck as bad precedent. They’re not going to want people accused of white collar crimes filing suits to appoint special masters any time documents are seized pursuant to a search warrant

Also, as I think on it more, I doubt the DOJ attorneys could certify to this. They didn’t have the need to look at the classified and top secret documents. This would have been in the fbi inventory, which if there was something more specific than what was submitted on pacer would have had to have been submitted under seal

I’m going off memory and certainly can’t remember every document in this case. But didn’t the fbi have a certified inventory of what they took from maralago including boxes containing documents stamped certified. Also, trump never argued in court that the documents the government stamped certified didn’t contain the stamp.

I’m going off memory and certainly can’t remember every document in this case. But didn’t the fbi have a certified inventory of what they took from maralago including boxes containing documents stamped certified. Also, trump never argued in court that the documents the government stamped certified didn’t contain the stamp.

Just want to point out that there have been actual studies of this, and they've found that states that have implemented bail reform have had just about no impact on crime rates. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/11/17/pretrial-releases/

No it’s akin to I’m trafficking cocaine and the government seized the contents of my car including kilos of coke, and I start yelling “attorney client” privilege because I happen to be attorney. And then get a special master to review everything that was in my car including the kilos of coke. While the government is forbidden from using the kilos of coke until the judge I hired and picked out says that kilos of coke aren’t subject to attorney client privilege. And then the kicker is that my client is the government. So I’m arguing that my attorney client documents are privileged from disclosure to the client. I respect a lot of your takes. But think this one is bananas.

It’s all a sham. The guy who orchestrated a coup attempt and stole national security documents appointed around a third of the federal judiciary. Many (most?) of whom are grossly unqualified for their role. And all of whom trump appointed with the intention of having them in his corner. Maybe some have maintained their judicial independence. But many, obviously including Cannon who he judge shopped for, are in the bag for perhaps the greatest criminal ever in this country. It’s madness. Trump should have been arrested in January 2021. He’s had another twenty months to consolidate his sycophantic base

Right. But he plainly never had ownership of documents marked classified. Meaning he stole them. Or even under the best possible interpretation since there’s been no trial he somehow possessed documents he didn’t own. To appoint a special master over those documents is still bonkers.

Not just the non-lawyers. But I'll disagree on the complaints about justice being slow. It should be careful, and that at times means slow. The problem here is that our country is no longer led by good faith actors. We have an ex-"president" and his entire party engaged in the indefensible and destroying institutions. And a DOJ acting like this is a typical white collar investigation. And a judge who is a cult member. Cannon's initial decision was bonkers. She essentially assigned a special master to review documents to determine if documents trump stole from the government should somehow be returned to the thief under an imaginary legal theory the thief's lawyers never explained. Yes, that's never been decided by a court before. Because it's fucking crazy. Cannon's not a good faith actor. And trying to put any of the rest of this in a legal framework doesn't really work as a result. There's no legal system, with this, or the transfer of power, or anything, that will withstand being hijacked by bad faith actors. Our entire government, not just the courts, requires that the people in charge actually respect the government. The laws are just paper. If you treat them like toilet paper then that's what they are.

FIFY

It matters if he’s prosecuted. He will have one hell of a time convincing a jury about his lack of knowledge. DOJ will have the knowledge element of the crime pinned down.

Maybe The Blaze Not real close, but in Sleepy Hollow, NY. It’s a giant jackolantern thing and I believe there’s a haunted house nearby headless horseman themed. You can get tickets online, but they sell out early. There will also be lots of kids at the earlier time slots.

Have you seen MAGA over the last six years?

True. But trump'll just file some other nonsense motion with Cannon, asking for special master Judge Jeanine, or something equally silly. And he'll get it, or at least delay Dearie's review until after the election. I hope I'm wrong.