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lemonlime

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  1. The documents marked "classified" couldn't possibly be subject to attorney client privilege. I think the executive privilege argument is off the wall too, but don't want to rehash again.
  2. Sort of correctly. The classification argument is largely a red herring. That the documents are stamped "classified" is only important because it's obvious without any additional information needed that those documents belong to the federal government. Whether the documents actually were classified, or trump could have somehow declassified them, or they were misclassified doesn't really matter much. Trump is arguing he has a personal interest in the documents taken from his home. He couldn't possibly have a personal interest in something the government has labeled classified. Essentially, trump is arguing he has a personal interest in keeping government documents secret from the government, and the judge is saying that someone needs to look over the documents to figure out if trump somehow has a made up personal interest in keeping government documents from the government. And, yeah, it makes zero sense.
  3. I'm sure there's no case cite, because noone has been stupid enough to argue this before. But the government's point in their stay motion isn't that the 100 documents (or whatever the number is) are classified. It's that there were hundreds (thousands?) of pages taken from mar a lago, some of which the executive before Biden occupied that office stamped as "classified." Trump took documents with this stamp, which we know by virtue of the stamp belong to the executive branch, and which the current executive wants back, and which the current executive, the owner of the documents, says have national security implications. And not that I'm giving Trump's idiotic declassification argument any weight, but it wouldn't matter at all if it were true. These are still documents belonging to the executive. And we know they are because the executive branch put markings on them, marking them as "classified." And the marking signifies that they contain national security information. And now the executive wants the documents it marked back. The documents don't belong to trump. He isn't king, despite his and Cannon's delusions.
  4. Even if he somehow magically declassified, an absurdity that even his own lawyers don't argue, it doesn't matter. There is zero rationale to have a special master review documents that executive branch of the government wants back for national security reasons, regardless of their classification status. The former executive doesn't have the right to hide national security documents from the current executive. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
  5. So since they've faced worse, we should be able to do whatever isn't as bad as what Maduro's done or what they've already faced at the border. WTF? The metric on whether we're a just society is whether we're a failed state with a severe food shortage? Also, these people were kidnapped. How the fuck isn't it dangerous to allow governors to kidnap people living in other states and transport them to whereever the hell they want? Never mind that MV does not have social services for these people, and almost the entirety of its jobs are in tourism which is essentially closed for the next eight months.
  6. They should move fast with the national security implications of this decision, and hear the case next week. That said, I have less than zero faith in the federal judiciary right now. And assuming, DOJ win at the 11th Circuit, and they should. Cannon got a no brainer decision wrong because she's in the bag for trump. Trump will appeal to SCOTUS, and I have even less faith about what Kav, Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas, and Aunt Lydia will do.
  7. Nope this is fascistic. The Holocaust started with first dehumanizing Jews, then transporting them away from their homes into ghettos.
  8. When you're worse than the Louisiana White Citizens' Council, who at least didn't kidnap the people they dehumanized, maybe you should do some soul searching. Alas...
  9. They didn't even tell them where they were going. And they got sent to an island with few social services, that essentially closes down in September once the tourist season is over. There are just about no jobs there over the winter. So the people of Massachusetts now will have to pay for their relocation. It's sociopathic. But I guess they're owning the libs, so there's that.
  10. DeSantis is a sociopath. There's no way to retaliate, because these are human beings not political props.
  11. Virtue signaling lib.
  12. Not sure where this goes, although DeSantis has taken "credit" for doing this. I'm mostly just sad. That putting 2 year olds on a plane across the country with no warning, no telling them where they're going, or even letting people at the destination know, is applauded by a lot of the country. I just keep going back to my father teaching me that a society is based on how it treats those with the least among us. And the right today mocks the "elite" and the libs, but they're actually taking care of these Venezuelan immigrants, many of whom are young children, while the Floridians are pieces of shit reveling in their cruelty.
  13. There is no old wing of the party. The entire party is batshit. There’s only the batshit fascists and Americans who aren’t republicans, either because they never were or because they left the party.
  14. Why would he go from bedminster to DC for medical treatment? I could sorta see him doing that from maralago but bedminster is just a helicopter ride from the nyc hospitals.
  15. Perfect GQP non sequitur, which deflects from any actual solution to the actual problems. If you think levying additional criminal penalties against someone who under the current laws already on the books would already serve up to 99 years in prison, and possibly be subject to the death penalty, are appropriate, go for it. You could also explain how if he served 120 years in prison instead of 99 that would decrease gun violence in any meaningful way. All this while ignoring that we have by far the highest incarceration rate in the world, our prisons are essentially really shitty mental health care facilities, and we are churning out people more likely to commit crimes when they can't get jobs/reenter society because they got caught smoking some weed. All of which has actual impact on gun violence. As does the actual proliferation of guns, something you are ignoring. But hey maybe you'll be able to buy a third boat.
  16. She's a MAGA mouthbreather, so I'm not defending her, but this order is not surprising. Both sides were already supposed to submit briefs tomorrow regarding how the special master should work, such as timing of the document review. She wants the parties to include in those briefs a discussion of the DOJ's motion filed today to keep the classified documents outside of the special master review. She may (and I have no faith in her) be laying groundwork to grant the DOJ's motion, and take the off ramp they've provided her. It'll be interesting to see how trump argues the classified documents could somehow be subject to executive privilege and that he's entitled to them back.
  17. Odd how we're the country with both the highest incarceration rate on the planet (although Rwanda and Turkmenistan are making a run at us), and the second highest rate of gun deaths of any country. It's almost as if locking lots of people up doesn't make us safer.
  18. Republicans love big government when it's mass incarcerating people. Yup, the problem is we don't imprison people enough in this country.
  19. 5 states with the highest murder rates Mississippi 20.5 576 Louisiana 19.9 873 Alabama 14.2 654 Missouri 14 803 Arkansas 13 371 5 States with the lowest murder rates: New Hampshire 0 14 Vermont 0 14 Maine 1.6 21 Idaho 2.5 42 Massachusetts 2.7 183
  20. Any documents potentially (in the world at large, not just related to trump) subject to executive privilege would be definition be Presidential Records. The PRA requires that the government possess and control all Presidential Records. If trump took Presidential Records and hid them in his private office he stole them. If trump had personal records in his private office, then those aren't subject to executive privilege. The documents the FBI seized had to either be (1) not ever subject to executive privilege under any circumstance or (2) Presidential Records that trump had no business having in his club in the first place. Those are the only options. These are either stolen documents or documents that couldn't possibly subject to executive privilege in the first instance. And trump has argued that the FBI planted the documents he's now claiming they can't look at because they're privileged. And that he somehow magically declassified documents. That he won the 2020 election in a landslide. And that windmills cause cancer. I don't know why you're giving his nonsense arguments weight.
  21. How could trump have had Presidential Records in his possession unless he stole them? How could any personal records of trump's be subject to executive privilege?
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