lemonlime

Yes, they did. It was omicron and they were vaccinated. Maybe the prior non-omicron cases they had roughly two years ago conferred some additional ability to ward off the symptoms of omicron. I'm not going to speculate about what the interplay was given that not even the scientists know at this point. If only the trolls on this board and elsewhere would stop the speculation based on facebook/youtube/twitter research....

I know two people who had Covid twice and were vaccinated, but in both instances the first bout of Covid was from before the vaccines were available. For the people bleating about natural immunity on here.

Ah, yes, the honor system. Which if we've learned anything over the last two years, it's that a significant number of people in this country are raging assholes who are fine with killing grandma and cancer patients so long as they can get drunk at Applebee's, and think something as insignificant as wearing a mask is somehow the hugest imposition on their rights equivalent to gas chambers.

That's not true. The actual quote from Newsom, as printed in the op ed you cited to, and not speculation by the author of the op ed: "Big milestone: California now at 93% of people have at least one shot, which is something to celebrate, right?" Michaelson said. "But then when we get to that point, where is the light at the end of the tunnel, when does this state of emergency end, if we're seeing that much progress on vaccinations?" "We'll know it when we experience it," the governor replied. "... They say about success, it's not a place or a definition, it's a direction. I mean eventually we'll get to that point, but it doesn't seem that there's a numerical match to it. It was, you know, initially it was 60%, then 70%, you add that with herd immunity, antibodies for people who haven't been vaccinated, and now we're realizing, wait a second, I mean, we're many parts, one body, what happens in South Africa can impact us here in the United States, so even if a state does well, that doesn't mean we're out of the woods. "Look, we're making progress, California has about a third of the hospitalizations we were this time last year, less than a third of the average daily case rates than we did this time last year, that's because of our higher vaccination rates."

I don't think you're making the point you think you are. They were enacted over some ridiculous controversy by stupid people at the time. Highway fatalities decreased. And 40 years later no one sane drives a car without a seatbelt as some sort of political statement.

WTF. No sane person thinks outlawing murder or requiring people to wear seatbelts to be politicizing the issue. Just like no sane person thinks wearing a mask during a worldwide pandemic or encouraging a vaccine against something that killed 800k Americans and left hundreds of thousands more with significant permanent health problems to be politicizing the issue. Reasonable can disagree on whether mandates are the best way to encourage vaccination or mask usage. But no sane person thinks that the efficacy of vaccines is a political issue.

So by that theory, I guess we should take our murder laws off the books then. Since by enacting laws that make it illegal to kill people, we're making killing people a political issue.

So then you think having to wear shoes when you enter a restaurant is political? Or wearing a seatbelt is a political issue? And whether you use a seatbelt is a political statement? Since they're mandated by the government.

Imagine being the first team eliminated, and to do so twice in a row.

Ok. Bad choice of words. He's conflicted as fuck. I have no reason to think he's unhinged or he's completely sane. I do think he very clearly should have recused himself. There's also plenty of reason to believe that his wife was involved in 1/6 and the evidence trump wants to hide could implicate her. But clarence's role in this? Who the fuck knows.

Or he's protecting his wife.

I'm sure the unvaccinated who get long Covid are going to keep working and not apply for Social Security Disability, Medicare or Medicaid. You know, since socialism is bad.

And vaccinated people are far less likely to use up hospital resources for Omicron or suffer from long Covid symptoms, regardless of whether they can catch and transmit the disease. Meanwhile, better have some thoughts and prayers that you don't get into a car accident or suffer a heart attack, and require emergency department resources that are being stretched to the breaking point because of unvaccinated assholes.

Watching it now. I'm just finding Season 2 depressing. Between Covid and the arrest and other things making it clear just how fucked up the program is, the season is a beating.

I think the test only needs to be done the day before to get back in to the US (obv. depending on what country you're traveling to).

Yet there's been crickets from you on this one. It's almost like you're spouting disingenuous bullshit.

Pedals are in the same place. But shifting with my left hand was an additional headache I didn't need on top of turning on my wipers every time I was trying to signal, etc. And every car I've owned until my current one has been a stick, so it's not like it was the stick shift itself that was messing me up.

At least the youtubers seemed to know how to drive a stick shift, based on what CBS showed anyway. I still can't believe the contestants don't learn that before going on the show. Although, in fairness, and having rented a car in New Zealand with a manual, getting used to shifting with my left hand while also driving on the other side of the road was headache inducing, and I had had cars for years with stick shifts.

We just spent two years prioritizing opening Applebee's over schools. But, yeah, I guess more people largely in the top, oh, 10% of income range, can work from home in white collar jobs they would have done from their own office without much interaction with the public anyway.

Lo fucking L. Do you even capitalism?

The judges aren't supposed to be making "points" at oral argument. That's the attorneys' job.

It'll be lots of these.

Well, his beliefs explain how he got syphilis and let it run rampant to his brain.

True. But crickets from the people outraged about the Kenosha driver getting out on bail. So odd they're silent.

Sure, I guess it's mildly encouraging that after years of enabling, or at best, silence, they said something. But it's akin to Japanese military strategists making a speech in saying they shouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor after the Battle of Midway.