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TreatyOak

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  1. A couple of points about Kerrville City Manager Dalton Rice claim (in the press conference) that he went out for a morning run at 3:30am Friday morning while the flood was happening: 1. That seems...weird 2. Why wasn't he alerting people to the potential danger? Surely he had gotten the 1am flash flood alert.
  2. Maybe 'cause they all died including the Camp Mystic leadership?
  3. I think you missed my point. I was trying to communicate the general mindset of summer camp parents. We didn't deeply investigate the various facilities 'cause we assumed that they were safe. "They're expensive and all my friend's kids have been going for years, so they must be fine, yes?" In retrospect, that maybe wasn't the best mindset. But it's also not uncommon to assume that a camp facility would evacuate kids in a bad rain situation, or at least, investigate and keep an eye on all warning signs. And this one, apparently, was built on a flood plain. As I mentioned, a camp in Marble Falls, maybe Camp Champions, did evacuate last summer as a storm approached. Looks like the camp management at Mystic really dropped the ball.
  4. If I am a parent who lost a child and I am greeted by the camp representatives with a verbal onslaught of "God's Will" and, "calling his angels to him" there would be bloodshed. Thinking back to all the camps my daughters attended, I didn't really check any of them for safety precautions. I just assumed they were safe, cause all our friends had been having their kids attend them for years.
  5. I agree with these posts 100% that the camp is greatly to blame. The county bears plenty responsibility, but when your business is entrusted with the lives of hundreds of children and teens, you have better have a fucking good system in place to anticipate danger and protect lives. The Hill Country is well know to have a high level of flash floods. They should have been monitoring all the news and the 1PM Thursday weather warning should have been enough for them to take action. Perhaps they could have had their OWN audio warning system and escape procedures in place. And if, as people are claiming, they didn't get any warnings due to the bad cell service, that is 100% on them. Like I wrote about last summer, my friend's daughter's camp was evacuated a day in advance of a storm.
  6. I do not understand the accusation either. Just sharing it for info. Perhaps this is the result of an ongoing feud.
  7. This wild post came out two hours ago from the Austin Firefighters Association. They are apparently furious and claiming that the Austin Fire Chief would not deploy his water rescue teams due to budget concerns. Austin Firefighters Association rdpSetoons1116uu0h6u3234ig70u1f5u52h6hhc9m0hl0h73a6uc222u473 · It brings the Austin Firefighters no pleasure to report to the community that the Austin Fire Chief DENIED the deployment of Austin firefighters to Kerrville until very late into the event (so today!), with the exception of only 3 AFD rescue swimmers who helped staff helo teams (which still were NOT deployed until the afternoon of the 4th). The Austin Firefighter Special Operations teams are specially trained for Hill Country swift water rescue and are some of the best, if not the best, swift water boat teams in the State of Texas. It is absolutely outrageous that the Austin Fire Chief, Joel G. Baker, would not allow highly trained firefighters from Austin to respond to Kerrville. Because of this egregious dereliction of duty, LIVES WERE VERY LIKELY LOST BECAUSE OF CHIEF BAKER’S DECISION! Deployment orders came down from the State of Texas on July 2. We would've been pre-deployed before the waters even began to rise! It is unforgivable that a fire chief would NOT allow his firefighters to answer the call to save lives. Why would Fire Chief Joel G. Baker do this, you may ask? It was a misguided attempt to save money. I say “misguided” because the fire department is fully reimbursed by the state to deploy. I explained the reimbursement process to Chief Baker last week, and he failed to understand this very simple concept. We are disgusted with our fire chief. He needs to be held accountable and fired for his disgraceful dereliction of duty. The Austin Firefighters are starting a vote of no confidence on Tuesday on the fire chief. As disgusted as we are at our Austin Fire Department leadership, the Austin Firefighters Association made a decision to not air our dirty laundry while victims and bodies were still being recovered. But it's now July 7, and it's time that we hold accountable our disgraced fire chief, AND anybody else in his leadership circle who are responsible for this horrendous act. The Austin Firefighters commit to being transparent to the community about this process to remove our fire chief and hold all of those accountable who were part of this atrocity. The firefighters hope we have your support, because it's going to get ugly. I can't possibly express to you how outraged and sickened the firefighters are that we were not allowed to do the job—the job that we have trained so hard and long to do—during the historic floods that just occurred in Kerrville. We could've made a difference, and we were forced to stand down and lives were lost. The community deserves a fire chief who cares about the community as much as our firefighters, and that is simply not the case. Joel G. Baker must go! Please support your Austin Firefighters by sharing this post. Please check this page for updates
  8. Last year, my business partner's daughter attended a camp in Marble Falls on one of the lakes. They got a weather warning a couple of days in advance to evacuate and everyone was removed from the camp. Do you believe the lawsuits will be hinged around the national weather alert that went out on Thursday at 1pm, and of course, the Friday 1am flash flood alert?
  9. Well, @immamac It took some digging, but I found it. The original SurlyHorns.com page
  10. Tua is 100% back and by all reports, is doing much better. Just read this quote from him: "I'm really really happy with cushions. Birds are bababa. We, you, me, I, me, you. Push push push crowns deburb deburb hagdiofuau0rrioahopir0."
  11. Now I'm not familiar with county emergency weather protocols, but I am familiar with the English language. Does this statement from Kerr County Judge Rob Kelly seem somewhat contradictory? “Rest assured, no one knew this flood was coming,” Kerr County Judge Rob Kelly said. “This is the most dangerous river valley in the United States. We deal with floods on a regular basis. We had no reason to believe this was going to be anything like what happened here, none whatsoever.”
  12. Poor Samford. They have to play at the toughest stadium to win at in the nation.
  13. The primary payout by Texas A&M University in connection with the 1999 Aggie Bonfire collapse was $2.1 million, agreed upon in October 2008. Under that settlement: $500,000 was paid directly by the university (the maximum allowed under Texas tort law), The remaining $1.6 million came from insurance policies covering university administrators
  14. Say what you want about TikTok, but they have some very informed influencers there. "The most toxic CFB fan bases"
  15. Current ad running for a roofer in the great state of Oklahoma.
  16. fla_agfan 6:53p, 6/11/25 Honestly, there are 2 that stick out for me. 2011 loss to the orange a-holes 2024 loss to the orange a-holes.
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