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Missed it by 3 days and 1 hour.Â
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31 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:
any time that any of you want to actually quote something specific that i've said and refute it then i'll be here to discuss it.Â

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19 minutes ago, victory88 said:
It's really frustrating. Herman is by no means a bad coach.
You lost me after this line.

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8 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:
It just pisses me off. Tom should have been the guy. These Bowl games show he has the ability to get it done here, but he was too fucking arrogant to put it all together.
I disagree with this. We have shitty seasons so we end up in bad bowl games against bad teams or teams that don’t want to be there. Big difference beating a bad team in a exhibition team and beating the teams we always lose to under Herman Munster.
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In regards to my earlier question about what is hindering San Antonio programs, Austin area teams are now 20-4 vs San Antonio teams in 2020 playoffs.Â
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On 12/21/2020 at 8:27 AM, jinx said:
I'm gonna go on record as stating this is the only thread that matters on Surly right now. Herman needs to be gone before the one thing he did right (recruit and build the roster) is burnt completely to the ground.Â
I have to think that guys like JQJ would still be around if they knew Herman and crew would not be. The fact that we keep holding on to this asshole while on double secret coaching search (or not, depending on what you believe about CDC's shitastic sound bite) is going to put this program back in the hole we have been trying to get out of for a decade.
I am soooooooooooooooo fucking sick of watching this slow motion train wreck. I feel like what aggers must feel like year after year.
Please just fire this stupid fuck. I don't really care who is next.
This, please. If you really want to torture yourself, go to the recruiting threads, and be amazed at good citizens posting about how great this 3-star, 3A RB is, or how amazing that 3 star WR is going to be. It's like somehow they haven't noticed that this head coach is UTTERLY INCAPABLE OF MAKING PLAYERS BETTER and now he can't even recruit the star players.
If you care about UT football, you should be doing everything you can to get rid of Turtle Tom. Send an email to CDC. Post on social media about how much he sucks. Do not send your money to UT. Me? I now send my nastiest memes to my boys at 104.9 the HORN in hopes that they will read them on the air. Sometimes, they do.Â

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54 minutes ago, Nowhichski said:
What exactly are UT players complaining about and using to dissuade recruits?

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2 minutes ago, texifornia said:
Hahahaha yeah, I can promise you my problem is not a belief that Tom Herman is the man to fix Texas Football.
I hear you. Sadly, I now believe that whom we recruit makes absolutely no difference whatsoever until Turtle Tom is long gone. He will make sure every recruit underachieves. At this point, getting excited about potential recruits is equivalent to admiring the paneling on the Titanic as it sinks beneath the waves.Â
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5 minutes ago, texifornia said:
Late to the party, but hook 'em! If you can't get the top-tier ultra-polished WRs, grab a guy with measureables and production and stick him in the weight room.
Keep pumping that California sunshine. Maybe Tom will turn it around next year. Or the next year, for sure.Â
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How about Central Texas? We are seriously underrated. Check out who's still playing:Â
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12 hours ago, shadow_operative said:Huge respect to Watt for this speech, and so much more. As a neutral fan he seems to be a complete and total badass on and off the field, and is one of the easiest guys to root for in league history. Big respect to JJ for this.

@EE2BÂ spewing away!
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4 minutes ago, EE2B said:
So offers only matter under Herman and not Strong or Mack? Got it.Counting Mack after 2009, they all sucked. Strong sucked. Herman continues to suck. I have 0% confidence that any player who comes here will be developed into a high-performing player until that fraud is gone.
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48 minutes ago, EE2B said:
Just because I said maybe the offers don’t reflect this kids ability doesn’t mean I’ve bought into anything other than I think this kid could be good. I guess you thought we shouldn’t have offered Sam Cosmi because he only had 3 other reported offers and was a 3 star. He is potentially a first round pick. You also realize that D’Onta Foreman was a three star as well and only reported 7 offers with Texas being his best offer. Hell most teams only wanted him if he brought Armanti with him. He only rushed for 2000 yards in 2016 and won the Doak Walker award if my memory is correct. By all means don’t let “stats” get in the way of your shitty takes. Keep spewing your bullshit all over the thread and posting your shops.You do know that D'Onta Foreman played for another coach, correct? Just checking.
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17 minutes ago, EE2B said:
Just because I said maybe the offers don’t reflect this kids ability doesn’t mean I’ve bought into anything other than I think this kid could be good. I guess you thought we shouldn’t have offered Sam Cosmi because he only had 3 other reported offers and was a 3 star. He is potentially a first round pick. You also realize that D’Onta Foreman was a three star as well and only reported 7 offers with Texas being his best offer. Hell most teams only wanted him if he brought Armanti with him. He only rushed for 2000 yards in 2016 and won the Doak Walker award if my memory is correct. By all means don’t let “stats” get in the way of your shitty takes. Keep spewing your bullshit all over the thread and posting your shops.Well, my "shopped bullshit" are some of the most popular posts here, and on 104.9 the Horn, where they read them out on-air, so thanks, I will continue to keep "spewing" away, but maybe you can do a Masterclass and teach me how to post content people want to read here, so they won't have to keep clicking likes on all my posts.
Each year under Herman, our recruiting class gets a little more tragic. Yet, like clockwork, people are all excited about players that no other program wanted. Hurray! Some dude ran all over players so small that they look like bobbleheads in their helmets.
The best HS players won't come here anymore, because they know that they won't get developed. Lots of players, like Cosmi whom you mentioned, have opted out of our bowl game because they rightly perceive that they have nothing to gain from the coaching.
If you still have any hope that good players will come here and get developed, you're not paying attention.      Â
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9 hours ago, EE2B said:
No sure what fucking point your trying to prove by posting his reported offers list, but the kid had 3500 yards rushing and 70 total TDs. I don’t give fuck if his only offer is Mary Hardin Baylor if he can play. Almost 12 yards a carry over nearly 300 carries is pretty damn good to me. If he can hold on to the ball and catch it he’s already better than Keaontay and his 30 offers.
Since you’re so enthralled by stats, this season, our beloved Chaps beat Charles Wright’s Austin High team 62-0. Yesterday, a 5-foot-nothing sophomore QB from San Antonio Stevens led two long TD drives against us in the second quarter, on all passing plays, against our starters and Wright, playing with his first string, couldn’t manage a single point against our back-ups in garbage time. I was at both games.
Since you don’t understand my point, I’ll try to explain it to you. Under the fraud leadership of Turtle Tom Herman, the typically good recruits that we have been accustomed to getting, even in our most down years under Charlie, will no longer even consider playing for us. That’s because (pay attention here) they want to have a chance of getting to the NFL. instead, we have people like you citing stats for a player that we had to scrap it out with colossus programs like Houston Baptist, Louisiana and UTSA for. Actually, I shouldn’t include UTSA on the list, as they at least had a first round draft pick last season. I wonder if Tom gets a bonus from CDC if a player from the University of a Texas state system gets drafted in the first round? If they tried to claim credit for that one, I wouldn’t be surprised at this point.
Maybe that player will turn out okay. The fact that people like you have bought into the BS is part of the problem. While many of us have come around about Tom Herman (hey, I was really excited when he came here-truth) this laughably embarrassing, hopeless, wretched recruiting class is just the latest indicator that we will never be anything ever again until we get him out of here and get a real coach that actually talented recruits want to play for. Don’t believe me? Look who Clemson, Bama, Oregon and slew of other programs landed.Â
But please feel free to keep sharing stats about our amazing recruits that no other major programs even bothered to research. I’m sure everything will be just fine. Have fun cheering at the Spring Game. Maybe Herman can win that game.

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Look who we beat out for Brooks. This is what Tom Herman has brought us to.
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41 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:
No, the posters that know what they are talking about don't say that about every sub-4 star player. Have you not paid attention to the OL recruiting discussion? The knowledgeable posters have been very objective in criticizing our coaches for the poor recruiting. You, however, live in a reality where everything is bad and terrible, with no objective thoughts to acknowledge anythinig positive. You are the worst of the fan base by far and need counseling.
I'm a pretty bad poster these days, too.

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1 hour ago, blacklab said:
Really bad week for the defense.Â
That Stevens QB, who is just a sophomore, was better than I thought he was. He engineered two long TD drives, all though the air, before halftime, having to throw into a very strong wind. He’s going to be very good in two years. Final was Chaps 71-14. Next week is Steele, which is always a tough out.Â
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1 hour ago, Fletch said:
Man I’m so jealous of the current crop of Westlake football players. Played football at Westlake from 08-11. Got one year of Derek Long that had a really solid system going then he retires and we bring in Allman. I know we almost won state with him that year, but that senior class was making a playoff run regardless. We were stacked that year. Tanner Price, Bryce Hager, some damn good receivers, a solid defense. Christ that 09 game against trinity still hurts. But yeah Allman just wasn’t a good fit here. Then Todd Dodge comes in here and takes an already prominent program to the next level.
Glad to hear and I'm sure I watched you play! You guys had some great teams and players, for sure, that made some really deep runs. I don't think the current crop of players is better than your years. In fact, a lot of the starters are smaller, skinnier, etc. The new teams may be a tad faster.
What really stands out is watching these Westlake teams on Fridays get better as the season progresses, and then watch a Texas game on Saturday and see a team that has no identity or core. Last year, the Chaps QB didn't even START until half-way through the season and he ended up throwing 6-7 TD passes in multiple playoff games. It's coaching. And I can't tell you how many times Westlake players are catching balls all alone in the secondary with no defenders in sight. The coaches just school their opponents. And after the first couple of possessions, the opponent somehow can't move the ball anymore. It's coaching. If you flipped the Westlake coaching staff with Texas, you would see Texas instantly improve and Westlake would be a mess.
I fully expect Westlake to regress after Dodge is gone. That dude is talented.Â
I'm going to the game on Saturday. Should be a blowout but Westlake will then probably face a good Steele team, then the colossus that is North Shore is looming.          Â
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That is terrific news. Congrats to @immamac and all of you tards for a job well done. You make me proud to be a part of this fabulously wretched waste of time.Â
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