Posts posted by TreatyOak
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6 hours ago, Had Enough said:8 hours ago, TreatyOak said:Thanks, and I apologize for the tone of my previous comment. However, there's absolutely no comparison at all for playing time between Murphy and Card. Card played virtually all of a Texas 6A state championship vs Allen as a sophomore, he started ALL of his junior and much of his senior year at QB. In both his junior and senior years, he played in the Texas 6A State semi-final games. That is a HUGE amount of experience at the highest level of high school football in the nation. Murphy has very little game experience and is it correct that he has not thrown a TD yet in HS? I hope they both turn out amazing, but I'm not talking about greatness here, just comparing experience.
Wasn't Card a WR too and having shown some speed and quickness that added to his profile as an athlete? As a sophomore no less.
That is correct. As a sophomore to get playing time and to utilize his speed, he primarily played WR. This makes his insertion at QB in the state championship game after the first series against Allen all the more impressive, as he brought LT almost all the way back from a huge deficit. The next year, he started as QB.
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1 hour ago, victory88 said:
I remember there being plenty of discussion here with people worrying about Card not having much playing time at QB and that he mostly played WR until that QB that went to tOSU graduated. I’m sure he had quite a few series as a back up and even a game or two as you stated. My point was that people have the same concerns about Murphy who also has limited tape until now at QB.
Thanks, and I apologize for the tone of my previous comment. However, there's absolutely no comparison at all for playing time between Murphy and Card. Card played virtually all of a Texas 6A state championship vs Allen as a sophomore, he started ALL of his junior and much of his senior year at QB. In both his junior and senior years, he played in the Texas 6A State semi-final games. That is a HUGE amount of experience at the highest level of high school football in the nation. Murphy has very little game experience and is it correct that he has not thrown a TD yet in HS? I hope they both turn out amazing, but I'm not talking about greatness here, just comparing experience.
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5 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:
Haha, two different chances, two different spellings but didn't quite get it.
Maalik is going to be the next Simms or Jamaal where no matter how long he's here or how much he does UT messages boards will still never consistently get the spelling right. The Ramonce Taylor All-Stars.
Haha, well done.
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7 hours ago, victory88 said:
You should be excited about Murphy. Some guys are born with an arm that can effortlessly throw it 74 yards. Dude also has an absolute cannon and throws darts with a flick of his wrist.
He has the raw tools to mold into a 1st round pick. We have a QB coach that has put plenty of QBs in the NFL and he also coached QBs in the NFL. I’d rather Sark work with a guy with an extremely high ceiling and see where it takes us. Especially considering we can take the gamble because we probably have a very high floor currently with Hudson Card... who by the way had no tape playing QB until his senior year.
Fair enough on Maliik, but the most important part of a QB, by far, is his brain. I hope we can develop him.
Your take on Hudson Card is so hopelessly incorrect to the point where it makes me worry about what else you've been posting. I've been watching him play QB since he was a sophomore. That year, he played backup QB but ended up playing all but one series at QB in the state championship vs Allen and performed great. He then started and played QB his entire junior year (when my Chaps kicked his butt-just saying) and ended up losing to North Shore in the state semi-final. He missed a portion of his senior year, before coming back for the state semi-finals against North Shore and bringing LT back big-time in the second half. So there is plenty of "tape" on Hudson Card before his senior year.
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Wow. I haven’t been overwhelmed by most of our recruits the last couple of years and count myself one of the people here who find it hard to get overly excited about Malik based on his lack of playing time, but the first two highlights of this guy are truly amazing. He seems like a real difference maker.
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18 hours ago, SwanderedTalent said:
That's part of what was underpinning it for me-- I immediately thought of the '72 Olympics basketball gold medal game, but the US had won the gold medal every other Olympiad prior to that and won it again in '76, and in '84, and every time since '92, so you know... not the same as a franchise getting to within a strike of its first World Series title and blowing a two-run lead with two strikes TWICE in one game.
I mean, fuck.
Actually, your statement about the US winning every Olympics since ‘92 is incorrect. We sent the scrubs to the 2004 Olympics in Athens and lost in the semifinals to Argentina and settled for the bronze. I can’t recall why the NBA stars didn’t attend that year.
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On 2/11/2021 at 8:55 AM, Snacks said:
Is there any film of Card under duress in HS? I don't initially trust any QB that hasn't had the dogs on his ass.
I said the same thing when Squints was the GPOY. I never saw a defender near him on his HS tape.
Moving the pocket is great when there's a pocket. What happens when there is no pocket?Our Chaps put a lot of pressure on him in 2017 & 2018. He is very fast and elusive, but he was sacked repeatably and threw INTs in both those games, which were losses for LT. He also was under a tremendous amount of pressure during their two playoff losses to North Shore. In the first game, he never was able to get going, as the game was a total beat-down. In the second, after falling into a really deep hole, he did an outstanding job of bringing the team back. His greatest performance by far was in a state championship loss his freshman or sophomore year vs Allen, in which he had to come into the game after the starter went down and after a rough start, managed to bring LT all the way back and nearly pull off an amazing victory. His scrambling ability vs North Shore and Allen kept LT in the games.
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On 12/20/2020 at 8:06 AM, LTtxfan said:APOLOGY NOTE: I created this visual in the early period of this movement, which is why I included “you” in the phrase. This was before the proper FCB moniker was established. Naming greatness takes time, as early, flawed iterations, like “The Silver Beatles” or “The Facebook” indicate.
Additionally, we may never know which one of you first used the phrase and actually began this greatness. Like all the great social movements, this one seems to have happened organically.* It would be interesting to find the very first usage of the phrase on this site. Anyone care to speculate who first used it or to take credit for it?
*I can’t tell you how many times over the years our stupid marketing presentations to clients included MAKE A VIRAL VIDEO. Guess no one explained to us how “viral” works. Haha!
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11 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:
Ewers is very talented. He also plays in a system where all the athletes are on the same page from about the 4th grade on.....we'll see.
SLC at the lower levels (late elementary/intermediate and middle schools) now doesn't have that same level of commitment and the teams and skill players reflect as much.
That may have shit all to do with Ewers
We watched Ewers play in person against our Chaps in the state championship. Ewers led SLC to 34 points against us. We had previously given up 71 points, with North Shore accounting for 21 of those. Mostly, it was just him dropping dimes against our secondary. We eventually got enough pressure on him to throw 2 INTs and start misfiring. He is the best HS QB I’ve seen in person.
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5 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:
I was beginning to get worried that we hadn't had a report about how difficult the workouts have been. Thank God we finally have a real s&c guy to whip our team into shape. Jesus, what a fucking cliche. Worth every penny.
Right up there with a new coach’s solemn pronouncement that, “we will have an aggressive, attacking defense.”
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16 minutes ago, Helobious said:
They were pretty evenly matched. I think Westlake happened to be the better team, but keep in mind the better team doesn’t always win.
NS had some young talent but is losing some key players like Davis and Banks. So Westlake should roll rather easily to a 3rd title no? They have that QB & Greathouse back, not sure if they’re losing anyone of consequence.
I think Westlake can potentially win a third straight title, as they will probably end up in D2 next season. Austin High lost their QB to Texas and will return to suckiness, which will push Westlake to D2. The Chaps lose some key players on the line, but there will be other good lineman who can step up. The receivers will be a position of strength, but both starting RB's are gone. I am hoping that a new RB mysteriously "shows up" in the spring.
If Westlake goes D2, I give them a good chance of winning next year. If they end up D1, then all bets are off, as Dallas has some strong programs emerging.
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On 1/31/2021 at 9:31 PM, Ravishing Rick said:Favored by a point? Is there really a betting line and place to wager on high school games? I wasn't aware of that, but cool if true.
North Shore was the two time defending 6A D1 champs, and very few outside of Eanes ISD gave Westlake a shot (source: I spend a lot of time on the Texas 6A football forum, which frankly makes me dumber every time I go there, but still find it somewhat entertaining).
I thought NS had a terrible game plan, and didn't play to their strengths. Running Shadrach out of the backfield time after time wasn't going to work...I think with a better game plan NS wins by 14 (sorry, just my humble opinion). I actively cheered for Westlake, and was very impressed by them. I'm not a hater. I live in HP, so didn't really have a dog in the hunt.
I appreciate that you cheered for Westlake, and I support North Shore, as well. I think they have a great coach, great players and they've dominated while keeping it clean. (I"m looking at you, Katy)
However, I don't see how you can think North Shore beats Westlake by 14 with a better game plan. Westlake was a better team this year than North Shore, period. How do we know this? Westlake and North Shore played and Westlake beat them! What better metric could exist to confirm that Westlake was better in 2020? We beat them in their city, in the state semi-final where they highly motivated, in front of mostly their fans. When you have a 2-time state champion, senior QB and a supreme talent like senior Shadrach Banks, you put the ball in their hands, and they were successful enough to score 21 points which is a really good against the best HS defense in Texas, but, dude, Westlake was a better team.

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58 minutes ago, Tailgate said:
GoFundMe for the little girl who was critically injured. She still hasn’t woken up since the crash.
Before you share a GoFraudMe link, it's best to confirm that it is actually legit. Scammers post these in the hundreds every time a disaster or human interest story pop up. I'm not saying that this is or isn't, but due to a lack of content on it, I have my doubts.
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On 1/21/2021 at 7:52 PM, BurntOrangeBlooded15 said:
This class is as loaded of a QB class as I can remember and the thought/hope is we get one of the big names up for grabs. Having the horns linked to a few, figured I’d make an all encompassing thread to discuss, post tweets, bitch and moan over who or what everyone thinks.
The main names so far
Quinn Ewers, Southlake Carroll. Obviously this one we all know about. Biggest prize and all of us are hoping for the flip. Ranked #1 prospect and Pro QB. 5* - 1.000 247 composite grade
Maalik Murphy, Junipero Sierra (CA). Relatively new to Texas talks. Really seems to like the Sark hire. Bigger kid at 6’4 225 and, from the little film I’ve watched, can sling it. Doesn’t have much film due to no CA fall football. Ranked #30 prospect and #2 Pro QB. 5* - .9843 247 composite grade
Conner Weigman, Bridgeland. Only dual threat linked to Texas talks. Might not be what Sark is looking for but who knows. Smaller frame at 6’1 205. Others probably know more about him than me. Ranked #93 overall prospect and #5 Dual QB. 4* - .9606 247 composite grade
Cade Klubnik, Westlake. Saw the kid go blow for blow with Ewers and win a state title, his 2nd in a row. I believe he’s an aggy legacy but doesn’t seem like a lock to anyone. 247 lists him at 6’2.5 178. Ranked #155 prospect and #6 Pro QB. 4* - .9387 247 composite grade
The best situation is an Ewers re-flip but what are preferences if he doesn’t? Other guys that aren’t on the radar yet?Klubnik's brother played WR at Yale so no reason to assume that they are a hard-core Aggie family.
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46 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:
That’s crazy. How does a guy get DMVP in 2 state championship games and not have 3 stars? Is it just his size? Or are those the only two games he played well in?Dude has been outstanding throughout HS. It's probably his measurables, as he doesn't have great size or that blazing speed. He is one of those guys who's real smart and is in the right place at the right time. He is the kind that used to get recruited by Kansas State when they were good. He does have terrific hands.
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9 hours ago, Laga4 said:Probably 10-15 people on this thread could put a better Texas HS betting line than Max Preps.
Well, how can that be true, when the usual suspects here were all picking North Shore (someone even picked North Shore by 21, lol) and Max Preps had North Shore favored by a single point?
Not sure who the Kate is being referred to. Will this Kate do?
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1 hour ago, Ravishing Rick said:
Favored by a point? Is there really a betting line and place to wager on high school games? I wasn't aware of that, but cool if true.
North Shore was the two time defending 6A D1 champs, and very few outside of Eanes ISD gave Westlake a shot (source: I spend a lot of time on the Texas 6A football forum, which frankly makes me dumber every time I go there, but still find it somewhat entertaining).
I thought NS had a terrible game plan, and didn't play to their strengths. Running Shadrach out of the backfield time after time wasn't going to work...I think with a better game plan NS wins by 14 (sorry, just my humble opinion). I actively cheered for Westlake, and was very impressed by them. I'm not a hater. I live in HP, so didn't really have a dog in the hunt.
Max Preps had both our Chaps and North Shore in their top ten national rankings. They listed NS favored by one point the week before the game. It wasn’t too much of an upset.
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I read the college talk on this thread to my wife and she is laughing aloud. Y’all are posting some funny, funny stuff so keep it up. I’ve just had two Sockeye Red IPA’s from Alaska’s Midnight Sun Brewery*** (which is AMAZING) so now I have some random, alcohol-addled, triggered thoughts:
My wife says ALL colleges have pretty girls so stop making comparisons. I agree.*
Fuck Quinn Ewers and fuck Dallas new-money pussies. He must have thought he was playing some other sissy, bleached-hair Dallas team in the state final. We gave him a nice beat-down.
Fuck Turtle Tom for wasting snaps on Kai Money and fuck the UT PR machine for trying to create a human interest story out of that bullshit. Did you know Bijan only caught five more passes than Kai Money? If you’re reading this, Kai, more power to you. This is about idiot Turtle. If you’re reading this Turtle, go fuck yourself.**
I’m a proud UT grad but GTFO with that talk about a UT diploma being anywhere close to Yale.
To the guy complaining about Yale talk on the recruiting thread, I would say go fuck yourself, but I think I gave you a horns up on your post. Hey, I said this was ramblings.
*I shot videos for a sorority at another college last summer. And fuck you, no pics. I’m a happily married man and father, but dang.
**Go fuck yourself, Turtle Tom.
***I was hoping the ABV was really high to justify this post but I just checked: 5.7%
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5 hours ago, Machinator said:
Michael Taffe is a classic Westlake player. He’s undersized for D1 and needs to bulk up. He’s a terrific athlete and was voted the MVP Defensive player in the state championship game TWO years in a row! He picked off Ewers TWICE in the title game and one of those was that crazy one-handed catch that pretty much sealed the game. Playing for Todd Dodge, he’s become a very smart player ( Chaps play smarter than Horns #sorrynotsorry) and being that Dodge is way smarter than idiot Turtle Tom, he was also played WR and made some really key TD’s late in the season including a TD catch against North Shore and the long pass play catch that set up the winning TD. Dude could be a good contributor by his sophomore or junior year.
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OU benchwarmer picking a fight with 2 wrestlers
in Football
While the guy did push the short dude and call him a name, the short guys may end up having to pay cause then they quickly escalated the incident to a frightening level.
Best if all parties had just walked away.