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Yep, based out of Atlanta IIRC so that doesn’t surprise me. If it were a rogue salesman at this one dealership, I may not be so extreme. But this was clearly a top-down culture as I was lied to multiple times by multiple people. They lied so much that they couldn’t keep their own stories straight. It was clearly just second nature for them and the way they do business.
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Here's what all I ended up ordering, which could also serve as a pretty good recap for the whole thread. Couple I already have plenty of, so I didn't order (Truff, Cristal, Cholula, Tabasco, etc). Couple pictured I keep on hand normally but I was just low so I decided to restock (Tapatio and Valentina). The Melinda's wasn't really mentioned by anyone other than me, but it's my current favorite (have hot and XXX hot) so I decided to try a couple other flavors - I think it's Columbian and might contain actual crack - excited to see how it stacks up to all these others. The rest were what I was able to mine from this thread that either got multiple votes or were mentioned by people I trust, or both. In no particular order...
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Looked back through the thread and I can't find where I ever talked about this. Could have sworn I did, but I guess not? Here's the really short version... Bought a new Regal 28 Express from Phil Dill Boats, which is a dealership in DFW owned by a big company called One Water Marine that has a bunch of dealerships all over the country (several in Texas) under a bunch of different names. The boat was sold to me as a new dealer demo with very low hours that they brought up from one of their other dealerships in Houston for me. From the first day I had it, every time we used the boat, something fairly major broke on it. It went from me thinking, well that's probably just how it goes when you're breaking in a new boat...to, there has to be something seriously wrong with this boat. Very serendipitously found out that the boat was never a dealer demo and it was never in Houston. It was previously owned by a guy in Frisco, TX (who also just happened to be a fraud attorney), who returned the boat because it was a piece of shit. After lots of doubling down and getting caught in more lies, after about 2 months, the dealership was forced to take it back and give me a full refund. I will never give that dealership or any of the dealerships in that company another penny. Bunch of crooked fucks. And I will never buy another Regal. Here's a link to all of their dealerships if anyone's interested... https://portal.onewatermarine.com/public/locations
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Aaaaand somehow or another I just managed to order over $100 worth of hot sauce from Amazon. Thanks a lot assholes
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If you think the "drive it off the lot depreciation" is bad on a car, wait until you see it on a boat. Here are some real numbers from my first experience, which I just happen to have handy since it was such a clusterfuck and I ended up having to document everything... New boat I bought had a MSRP right at $200K. Got it for right at $150K. One month later, after putting almost no hours on it, due to all the issues I was having (more on that later), I just wanted to sell the fucking thing. The dealer who sold it to me said he could give me a trade-in value of $85K max and if I were to sell it myself, I could get $100K max. And he showed me all the market value paperwork and comps to back it up, so I believe him. I like new too and thought the same way as you on the maintenance as a newb boat owner. With mine (I realize it's probably a pretty extreme outlier) something fairly major literally broke on it every single fucking time we took it out. Sure it was all under warranty, but what a fucking beating. As others have mentioned, and from everything I learned, you'll have fewer problems with one that's broke in a little bit. If warranty is a big deal to you, get a used one that's still under warranty. Luckily, that dealer ended up having to take it back for a full refund (long ass story) because they completely misrepresented it, so I ended up okay, but I would have been sick if I'd have had to take a $50K bath after just one month of use. And even though my situation was surely unique, the numbers don't change. So, yeah that first depreciation is a motherfucker.
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Damnit...y'all fuckers gonna let me get some work done today or what? Eh, who am I kidding? I'm just excited about my new boat. This cold weather can suck it.
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Short answer...do not, under any circumstance, buy a new boat. Long answer...I'd say probably about 25% under MSRP from what I experienced. Granted, I didn't research it much when I bought my first boat, which was new. And that was at the peak of Covid when inventory was really low and every boat dealer in town was saying they had never sold so many boats in their life.
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Yep, and to take it one step further, if there is any possible way to test things out a bit in the actual situation you think you'll be using the boat in, take that opportunity even if you have to rent some things in the process. Silver lining to my first boat screw job fucking fiasco...I got to use a boat for almost 2 months (essentially for free) and really figure out how I wanted to use it. What I wanted and what I didn't want. And what I thought I wanted and what I really wanted ended up being two very different things. That scenario isn't realistic for most people, but I'd rent some things, charter some things, etc different times of the day/week/season before I really settled in on what I wanted. Hell, depending on the location, even just spend some time around the docks soaking everything in if you can. The culture can change just from marina to marina pretty substantially. Even within our marina, the vibe from dock to dock is really different. And then at the end of it, as you said, be honest with yourself. Sometimes easier said than done, but a lot fucking easier to determine before you buy than after.
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Damn this is no shit. Booked a small CC for a fishing charter several years ago in the Keys. I tried to go cheap and I guess you get what you pay for. Mrs Landomatic, who isn't afraid to get her hands dirty, was none too happy when told by the captain that if she needed to go to the bathroom, she'd have to use a bucket. You can guess how that went over...while boarding with a charcuterie board and bottle of champagne in hand. Long story short, we didn't make it very far offshore before having to turn back. Even I will admit, it was fucking miserable. We were drenched and freezing and there was nothing fun about it after a certain point. Later on that same trip we were walking on the docks by a mega-yacht that you could see into and she said, "next time we go on a boat, it better have 3 things...leather couches, flatscreen TVs and fresh flowers like that one." Almost named our boat Three Things just for that. /csb
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Joystick was one of the "non-negotiable must haves" this round for me.
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And you can never have too many joysticks or thrusters.
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Most first-time boat owners wish they’d gone bigger on the first one. That said, not sure I’d look at anything that old. That’s a cash boat. After 20 years old, they get a lot harder to get financing on. So, even if you plan to pay cash, that really limits your market when it comes time to resell. I made one of my criteria that it could be no older than 15 years old. Anyway, mostly comes down to budget and how you really think you plan to use it...which may change immensely from where you think you are right now (it did for me anyway). Tons of variables from there.
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Yep this. My broker literally stopped me from buying 2 different boats (for different reasons) that I had gotten impatient and emotional on and thought to myself, fuck it I don’t care if there might be issues I’ll just cross that bridge later because this is the boat I really want. Patients is not my thing. After multiple warnings from him on both, he eventually said, go ahead and buy it but I can’t help you when shit goes wrong and I won’t resell it for you when that time comes. That was enough both times to wake me up and I walked away. No doubt in my mind I would have bought both of those, and probably others with issues without his guidance. So, what he stood in the way of me buying was probably more valuable than what he eventually did help me buy. And yeah, he was able to pick up on red flags that I never would have caught. Sometimes from just looking at the listing pics, but often times after he had talked to the seller. And I especially wouldn’t touch anything saltwater without a broker. Whole different animal from my understanding.
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@conVINCEd you should take him up on this without even blinking an eye. Even if you just get a small boat. I almost got really burned on my first boat as a newb who thought I could go it alone...from a very reputable local dealer. Luckily I was able to navigate my way out of it and save my ass, but the whole situation still really sucked. I’m sure I posted that saga in this thread somewhere if you go back to around August or so. Didn’t I? What a shit show. Round 2 (my latest boat) I hired a broker to help me out and it was the single-best decision I could have made. Worth every penny and can’t imagine having tried to do it without him. He knew I’d been burned once and worked to ensure it didn’t happen again. Learned a ton along the way and he really kept me from making some dumb buying decisions. Not to mention, he has handled all the details with negotiating, survey, paperwork, registration, delivery, etc. I’ve been extremely grateful for him every day throughout the process! Plus, his pay comes out of the seller’s end so I don’t really feel like it cost me that much. As a co-broker on the deal, he just splits the 10% selling commission with the selling broker. I might have been able to get that 5% knocked off the total had I done it all myself, but who knows, I think that’s doubtful. And either way, still worth every penny. That said, I know there are some shady brokers out there who still try to fuck you just like that reputable local dealer tried to fuck me. But if @G650 has a trustworthy guy in Charleston, you should hire him.
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Well I don’t know if it makes me a poor or a half percent or what, but I told myself when I got a boat that I wasn’t ever fucking with putting it in and out of the water myself. Had a buddy with a trailered boat who I boated with one whole summer in my 20s. We had fun, but the trailering part was a beating. Always thought the only way to do it was just to have it in a slip and walk right on whenever it came time to use it. My last boat was a 28’ Regal cruiser (probably what @troph is thinking of) and they brought that one in and out of the water on a small trailer behind a pickup. My understanding is this new boat is too big to do that with. Either way, I have no plans to move it around anytime soon.
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Two boats? What the hell ever gave you that idea? One boat. Two boats would just put me in the surly half percent of dumb.
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Had a really great 4 hour sunset yacht charter in Miami a few years back. PM me if you want the info and I’ll shoot it over to you if I still have it. We used to go to Miami 2-3 times a year and that was by far one of the coolest things we’ve done.
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That trailer in the pic is actually just what they moved it onto once the delivery truck got it here. It’s just a place to store it until the weather gets better.
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Leave it to me to get my boat on the coldest week in like 20 something years. She made it safe and sound though. Thank god for shrink wrap. Think I'll wait until it warms up a little before unwrapping her... IMG_1077.mov
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Ah gotcha. Didn’t know he was a mechanic...makes a ton more sense now. Yeah they should definitely charge a premium. I would see nothing wrong with having part of all boat mechanic’s pricing be an added fee for jobs done within 48 hours. Or charging a rush fee in times like these.
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I’m not following? You hope who pays through the nose to winterize your boat at the last minute?
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Behind a paywall...can't see shit.
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George's definition of "a real hit on our hands" and mine are two very different things. His lack of musical talent is nothing if not consistent.
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I have this one. Got it "free" with some appliances we got for a kitchen remodel. It's fine, but it's nothing special. Really glad I didn't pay full retail for it. Amazon showing it for $740. Seems a little steep for what it is. https://www.amazon.com/stores/Wolf+Gourmet/page/C1F3F000-6EA1-4F52-BD34-B7504D9B27C8?ref_=ast_bln
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Few different posts in this thread got me thinking...do ya'll refrigerate your hot sauces after opening? Or just keep them in a cabinet/pantry at room temperature? Or refrigerate some and keep some at room temp? I've always just kept all of them at room temp as I kind of figured if restaurants are keeping them out on the table all day, then it must be fine to store them at room temp. But when I got the Truff ones, I noticed they say to refrigerate after opening so I keep it in the refrigerator. Also just noticed the Secret Aardvark (just ordered) says the same. Haven't really checked my others. What says Surly?
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