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BHMCruiser

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  1. Acting like there is not a reflexive "cancel culture" in play now, notwithstanding nearly every major public figure and unorthodox academic decrying it, is truly amazing cognitive dissonance. Just read what Gourmand wrote. In one paragraph, he says "cancel culture does not exist" and "he cannot be cancelled because he has a huge audience and is influential." What difference does it make how large an audience somebody has or whether they are influential if the cancel culture does not exist anyway? It represents a total failure of critical thought which appears to be steeped in some sort of delusion.
  2. FWIW, I am also interested in troph's perspective. Gourmand's "white knighting" because he had a conversation with his wife cannot be taken seriously and is completely unproductive. But it is funny! And this is a thread about a comedy stand up, so I think his performance theater of the absurd is a good addition.
  3. QED
  4. I can’t argue with that. That’s a pretty fair take.
  5. Or maybe he’s just one dude with his perspective and can’t tell every joke the way every other person in the world may subjectively want him to.
  6. Because Marsha P Johnson didn’t shoot somebody at a Wal-Mart. It’s like you didn’t even listen to what he was saying.
  7. He was mocking the law from multiple perspectives because the usual objection to trans bathroom intersectionality (Gourmand am I using that right?) is that dude women will fuck your little girl kids. And he’s saying “I don’t give a shit about that! What about me?” Which is absurd. But again please don’t construe what I am saying to mean that I think the trans movement is relatively humorless.
  8. Because “Marsha P Johnson” isn’t a funny name? And I’m plenty dumb thank you very much.
  9. Nope. I only said that once. My other big kid words in this thread have been “dogma,” “overwrought,” and “preconceived.” I don’t know what substance you want me to bring. Anybody who disagrees with you and Mr. Wifeversation will conveniently either be ignorant or a bigot.
  10. His joke about the Stonewall riots did all that? I must be dumber than I thought!
  11. It is way more complicated than that tired trope but whatever.
  12. When does their comedy special air?
  13. I am mocking your nonsensical position that things that you speculate may contribute to violence can never be funny because your definition of comedy does not allow for potential compromisation of the political/sociological issue most personal to you.
  14. I’m not being disingenuous.
  15. No the joke is exactly the same. He respects people who really fight, not people who get mad about pronouns and make up new words because they cannot believe anybody disagrees with them. That was the point of his joke.
  16. To me it just sounded like a story about a person he knew.
  17. Were the perpetrators found still wearing their “Dave Chappelle Fan Club” jackets?
  18. Did you learn this from your conversation with your wife?
  19. I thought his point was very simple. He’s confused about the trans issue. He doesn’t like being bullied by people telling him it’s settled. He personally likes all people on a personal individual level. He thinks the pronouns and made-up words are bullshit and sidestep the discussion.
  20. So “show some empathy,” “we are all human,” and “she was my friend” are all terms that promote violence against black trans women?
  21. This is so overwrought with special interest dogma it’s hard for me to unpack.
  22. And the new standard for everything is whether some idiot uses it as encouragement to do something wrong or cruel? Can I say I disagree with MAGA people because some left wing lunatic may attack one of them? Can I say I send my kid to private school because I don’t like public school agendas even though some clown may decide that means it’s okay to attack a school board member? Where are the lines? What’s the limiting principle on your “words that may lead to violence are bad” theory?
  23. So if a person says “gender is a fact,” then they are encouraging violence the same way that Chuck Schumer did in January 6?
  24. In your opinion. To which you are obviously entitled. But didn’t you say it encouraged violence? Putting aside the fact that a transcript loses body language, etc., and doesn’t do the situation justice, do you still think his special will promote violence?
  25. I didn’t think this was his funniest special. I thought he said a lot of thought-provoking things. Anybody who claims his comedy is encouraging violence against the trans community either did not watch the special or is an idiot. I don’t pretend that there will be an honest discussion here. There are too many competing agendas and preconceived taking points for that. Watch the special and then decide what you think.
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