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  1. 100%. As a past and current dumb male, it's pretty clear women mature faster than we do, and timelines we give them both for educational attainment, family and career building, puts boys at a disadvantage.
  2. I guess if we are dropping college admission anecdotes, my senior year of high school, the admissions director at Virginia Tech changed, and the new girl categorically wanted to reduce the number of private school admits vis a vis public school. So out of my graduating class at our regions top private school, a grand total of one student was admitted. One! For comparison, we placed 30+ kids at UVA, a school with an objectively more rigorous admission policy and demand. This just happened one day, and any kid who was preparing to go to Tech was shafted. But that is just the vagaries of life, and I can't think of anyone who lashed out over it. Point being, shit happens.
  3. I mean, we are losing sight of the actual problem, that if one doesn't go to college one shouldn't be consigned to a miserable life as a social pariah. No going to college isn't a "shitty" outcome. To be honest, these discussion always remind me how oblivious a lot of people are to how half this country lives (not aimed at you).
  4. So anecdotally, I know several Gen Z males who didn't want to go to college because it's for woke libs. Two of them have very MAGAt fathers.
  5. I think its public these days anyway?
  6. I honestly don't see it as that hard of a pivot for young people. It however is an extremely hard pivot for their parents.
  7. You both misunderstand me. I'm talking about not putting a cultural lens on people we are supposedly trying to help. And the 'we' in this circumstance is not you and me, but politicians and their messaging.
  8. So while I'm rambling, I also think we really have to separate culture from politics to be effective. I was actually thinking about this recently in the context of something else, but this is just another example. Republicans have banked on culture shit, but I can promise you if you feed and house a man the odds are in your favor he will vote for you.
  9. Well why didn't you just say that
  10. I think it's you and Derka, so you are in hallowed company.
  11. See, here is the issue. You have Mole with an anecdotal story that happened to him, which contained mild inconvenience and a generally happy ending. And yet you respond with a YouTube click bait title. There's no real discussion to be had here. People get unfairly denied employment allllll the time. Minorities still get that treatment by a factor of a bazillion to one to white dudes. Nobody is saying it's good or should ever happen, but plenty, myself included don't think this explains Trumpism, because it's just not statistically relevant in the big picture. Especially for millennials, who remember, are still the most liberal group! There's a lot more motherfuckers working at McDonald's or as a framer than ever went looking for a tech or academia career. I mean at the end of that day, I agree with you with a lot of blanket progressive-ism and it's faults. But I see no one in here who would tell someone of any race or creed that got denied a job unfairly to get fucked.
  12. One thing I have to add, we are still way too fixated on sending everyone to college. In particular, narrow minded suburban whites have never fully broken away from that paradigm. It's still conceptualized in their minds as 'bettering' oneself, and until other career paths are given equal moral and societal value again it's going to be the source of pain and frustrated ambition. I can tell you without any compunction that high level non college graduates in blue collar fields are smarter, more capable, and stronger people than the average mediocre suburbanite who gets a computer science degree and goes into "tech".
  13. I think that is a common concern, but that is literally the opposite side of the coin of this conversation. It's the input, we are discussing the output. But I do think it's a serious conversation that need to be had to be sure.
  14. I mean, I'm all for it. I just don't think you are doing that here. Or more accurately I don't think you are persuading anyone to take a different tack in the service of that goal. Most people here are in agreement with your premise, yet you are just condescending them and that seems antithetical to your stated aim. ETA See Briskets post above ^ for great strategy in pursuit of this end imo.
  15. I don't know what to tell you other than I disagree with that take, and you are being willfully ignorant to take that position. I haven't seen anyone in here go full Jordan fuck them kids regarding millennial white men. This all feels very personal to you.
  16. Literally all of my politics are for policies that would help them in fact.
  17. We all agree on that already tho.
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  19. You'll get no argument from me
  20. He isn't talking about the disadvantaged poor though is the problem.
  21. I definitely think there is something to this, to be sure. I just think the example you are giving in this essay is not that.
  22. No disagreement there.
  23. I dunno man. I come at it from the exact opposite side of the coin, explicitly class based and someone who is around actual working people every day, and most of the points seem pretty fair to me. If we are doing the no offense thing, you are always about working class this and that, and class, yet you are preoccupied for some reason by hiring practices in big tech, which in and of itself is a milquetoast upper middle nonsense, then specifically millennial white dudes of all things, so you and the author are the ones focusing on identity issues in the first place. If you want to get into the nuts and bolts of class identity and a real voting substantial bloc come down here in the mud with actual working stiffs. My biggest gripe with the article is the writer is a fucking pussy who couldn't hack it in my world. I acknowledge the need for the tent and all, and I hope we unite against the oligarch class, but I just don't see much juice to squeeze on this one man, millennials are the most liberal bloc already, so you are talking about fractions here of disaffected millennial men voting R in that cohort. And I will note millennials have had a ludicrously bad time of it for myriad reasons! But this ain't it. Precisely
  24. I mean, from my perspective you pretty much came to this conclusion before you posted it. People have given you some thoughtful responses.
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