Man, I knew this was gonna get way off track which is why I was hesitant to even respond. Lyrics are not even really what I'm describing, though they can be a part of it.
The only reason I even brought up Modest Mouse in the first place was because it's just one of those bands my drummer was really into with some of our other friends, could be like Band of Horses or whatever, I wouldn't get so hung up on a particular band. My general thought about Modest Mouse is essentially the Don Draper " I don't think of you at all" line.
No, it's really just what I said. The passivity of letting things happen to you versus positive action of controlling events and your own mental/spiritual/whatever condition. As mentioned it was a a broader culture thing that found expression in music as well.
The most concise way I've found to express it is it's "oh poor me" vs. "Imma punch you in the fucking face".
I mean, I don't really consider it generational. It was just prevailing culture for a period of time, I see generally a shift over the past 5 or 10 years, if not back to more aggression, at least less passivity. Probably more nihilism now than anything.
I mean, this is way off the thread topic, so I'm not getting but so far into this, but they are a part of that generational shift that happened in the late 90s to early 00s where popular music became limp and passive. It's a symptom of a culture which became professional victims that allowed events to happen to it, versus actively controlling them. There's a laundry list of bands of this ilk, Korn was the the first real big one that was arresting in their wimpiness, but it crossed myriad genres and styles.
If he has any 64 or 65 Strats, I wanna be at the head of the line!
Not sure about buying and selling but it's by far the best way to find musicians these days, which is wild to me.
I knew a girl in LA that was roommates with Jimmy Eat World. She bartended at Barneys Beanery. They were essentially on tour that whole time so I never met them but she said they were pretty awesome guys.
Yeah I don't doubt you, I'm just not familiar with it. Mr. Brightside was everywhere, I still hear it. I also think while a fun song, Monkeywrench is kind of a blip of history relatively speaking.
I just actually looked up 2004 songs out of curiosity, Somebody Told Me was a really big song I remember. Slither also dropped from Velvet Revolver that year.
That whole era was a pretty big wasteland for me tbh. Social Distortion put out Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell in maybe '05? Audioslave seems about that time as well.
Eh, I'm not so sure about that. I'm a late Gen X, and the Foo Fighters are still just the new band the drummer from Nirvana started to me. I do agree with the notion that a lot the perception comes down to timing, especially when talking about one's formative years of teendom and early adulthood. I will also allow a lot of my musical opinions where possibly baked earlier than most, in elementary and junior high.