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Saint Austin

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  1. This doesn't shock me since the Texas case was only two years old. But when is the Supreme Court supposed to take up these "heartbeat" laws?
  2. Agreed with OP. Give most of DC back to Maryland, but also let PR have its shot.
  3. I already made those points throughout this entire thread. It's all there for your consumption. You, on the other hand, instead of responding on the merits like others have, chose to pull a "Leroy Jenkins" without any argument or intelligent thought. Am I still being too convoluted for you?
  4. Who am I to argue with such eloquence and historical citations? Now go get your shine box.
  5. I don't know, did your house form its own state in the Union before voting to secede? If not, it's a pretty bad analogy. Use whatever word you like then. It doesn't change the fact the U.S. gov't brought the seceded states back into the Union by force.
  6. The Lost Cause is about downplaying or even flat-out rejecting the role that slavery played in sectional differences and disunion; that's not what I'm doing. It's not exactly radical to state that the Confederacy formed its own short-lived county. Its several states went through the formal process of secession with many even having binding referendums, ratified its own constitution, formed its own executive, legislative, and judicial branches, coined its own money, and raised its own military. It was never successful enough on the battlefield to merit international recognition, but that doesn't mean the country or its institutions didn't exist until it was conquered by Union forces. You're welcome to criticize the reasons for secession or the wisdom for doing so, but those are separate issues from whether or not the Confederacy was, briefly, its own country.
  7. I never said the South didn't fire the first shot. The difference is that the South was trying to conquer a single fort smack dab in the middle of Charleston Harbor, as opposed to the North that wanted to conquer, well, everything.
  8. Ah yes, the famous Anglo-French invasion of Poland...
  9. You're still referring to the causes for secession and the war as if they're interchangeable; they're not.
  10. It was definitely about power. But that also swings both ways. If the federal government allowed the South to go away peacefully, it would lose an immense amount of power, geographically, politically, and economically. The North's motivations for war laid in those reasons, as well as the more intangible "preservation of the Union," and not for the reason of abolition.
  11. This isn't Lost Cause bullshit. I'm not denying the first round of secession was primarily because of slavery. We've all read the ordinances of secession. My reference of the soldiers' motivations for fighting had more to do with the argument that Confederate soldiers fought to maintain slavery, and it's just as simple as that.
  12. So when Virginia voted not to secede before Lincoln's call for volunteers, and then switched its vote to secede after Lincoln's call to put down the rebellion by force, that was about slavery?
  13. Initially, yes. But after Lincoln's call for volunteers that drove the Upper South out of the Union, it become more about a perceived abuse of executive power.
  14. You are confusing the reasons for secession and the reasons for war. However, it's interesting that you reference the Crittenden Compromise and Corwin Amendment. While Lincoln did oppose the Crittenden Compromise, he approved of the Corwin Amendment. In fact, in his first inaugural he stated: If anything, Lincoln's approval of the Corwin Amendment and the seceded states' decisions to remain out of the Union only furthers the argument that the war was more about Southern independence than slavery.
  15. And what battles were raging when Stephens delivered his Cornerstone Speech? Also, the reasons for secession are not the same as the reasons for the war or soldiers' motivations for fighting.
  16. All of y'all saying that the war was about slavery might be interested to hear what Lincoln had to say.
  17. Alright. On the merits then, if the Anglicizing of Jesus is a perpetuation of white supremacy, is the continued use of English, Spanish, French, and Portuguese in Latin America and Africa a micro-aggression as well? But yeah, I'm the one whining, not the person calling for the removal of religious art that is hundreds of years old.
  18. Cool. The Renaissance is now canceled.
  19. But St. Augustine of Canterbury is from... you know what... doesn't even matter anymore.
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