Art Vandelay

Exactly.

Great job by Beto in that interview. I couldn't believe the amount of negative comments on Willie's FB page about the free concert for Beto. Like 98% negative. Comments like "I'm done with Willie! I won't support that socialist commie Beto !@#$!!".....WTF. I know Willie's fans come in all ages and stripes, but that is disappointing.

I'm trying to think of an acceptable non-racial alternative for thug. Hooligan? Ruffian?

I realize that for SOME people, the word "thug" may be a substitute for the n-word. However, I'm pretty sure it's still possible for a white person to be accurately labeled a thug. I mean, I'm not that old, but I can remember when that word had no racial connotation whatsoever.

Another interesting tidbit on Four Sticks...Bonham's frustration at not being able to nail the drumming on that track led him to launch into the drum intro of a Little Richard song while the tapes were still rolling. Page immediately started playing a riff to it, and the song "Rock 'n Roll" was born.

I think it had more to do with the unusual time signature. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/the-40-greatest-led-zeppelin-songs-of-all-time-154694/four-sticks-1971-164057/ I don't think the use of four drumsticks was required, but it added to the unique sound of the track.

Just in case some of y'all ain't getting the reference, as I suspect.

How about this leaflet? "Famous Jewish sports legends."

Never forget.

Just remembered another instance that was maybe the first time I perceived racist behavior and it had a profound effect on me. My Dad was a pilot for Delta Airlines so my family was always flying through Atlanta. We flew standby on employee passes so that meant we sometimes didn't get on if flights were full (although it was much easier to do then than now). Anyway, we were trying to get to Kansas City to visit my mom's family and we were stranded in the Atlanta airport late one night. I would guess I was maybe 7 or 8 years old. The airport was mostly empty and I was sitting at the gate with my family while my parents figured out our next move. This old black man, who looked to be in his 70s or 80s, was sweeping the floor near us, and he was moving very slowly. A Delta employee, probably in his 30s or 40s, struts over and says, in a very southern accent "[whatever the man's name was], you better get to moving that broom before it rots in your hand!" Then he laughed and made a few other snide remarks and walked off. He didn't use any racial slurs but it was clear by the way he spoke to the old man that he had zero respect for him. I can't imagine he would've spoken to a white man twice his age like that. I will never forget the look on that old man's face. It was a combination of sheer hatred and sorrow. He glanced at me and I saw real sadness in his eyes and I remember just feeling sick about it, even at 7 years old or whatever I was. This was in the late 1970s, so that old man no doubt had spent his entire life dealing with assholes like that, and much, much worse, I'm sure. Especially if he was from that area. I never forgot about that.

Growing up in a small town in North Texas in the 1970s & 80s, I heard all the ones mentioned in this thread pretty regularly, including the eeny meeny, miney, moe rhyme. Everyone used the term "wetback", including (and maybe especially) the hispanic kids. One kid in middle school, who was well-liked and popular, was half-white/half-black. Everyone called him Higger or Wigger, to his face, but not maliciously (as weird as that sounds). If it bothered him, he didn't show it, he just laughed along. When I was a kid, the n-word was forbidden in our house, and I never heard my parents use it. Unfortunately, in my Dad's grumpy old age, he has let one fly now and again. My grandpa, an Irish-Catholic who lived in Kansas City, used to refer to one of his neighbors as a "good nigger." He genuinely like the guy, but it was as if he felt it necessary to qualify it -- i.e., "a good guy (for a black person)." Not long after Obama was elected, my other grandpa remarked to me that "all black and brown people are the same, and now we've got one in the White House." My grandma, German through and through, once said to me "Can you believe Joe Lieberman could be vice president?" I replied with something like "well, what's so bad about him, grandma?" She stared at me for a few seconds, wide-eyed, then leaned in close and whispered: "He's a Jew!!"

I'm as close to apathy as I've ever been, but I just can't completely tune out. I have been going to fewer and fewer games since 2010, though, whereas I almost never used to miss them, and hated it if I did. I still have season tickets. Didn't watch the Maryland game as I was dove hunting and had no TV. Didn't go last night and glad I didn't. I'll be at the USC game because I have family coming into town for it. But I'm not excited about it, and that sucks ass.

Are you fucking kidding me? Can you imagine Saban saying something like this?

Herman seems absolutely giddy about barely beating a really, really bad Tulsa team. JFC.

Yes

Everything he's saying would sound great.....if we were playing a quality team. But it was Tulsa......at home.

Blah blah.....Lipstick on a pig.

Wooooooo!!! Whiskey time, boys.

Wow, you give guys like Ingram and LJH the ball and good things happen. Weird. Obviously they shouldn't see the field the rest of the game.

Horribad call

Horns fans can rest easy with those guys in the secondary.

MF'ing this

No good!!!