wildcat09

In the Democratic party it sure fucking can.

Didn't Nate also really fuck up his 2022 forecasts because he kept including garbage GOP push polls?

No, but that hasn't stopped them from fucking with elections with no legal basis in the past. Bush v Gore was complete bullshit, legally speaking, as was the recent decision to keep him on the Colorado ballot. Party primaries aren't really solely-private affairs anymore. Primary elections are held on state recognized election days, under applicable state election laws. And I guarantee you there will be some bullshit constitutional claim (maybe that replacing Biden deprives his primary voters of a property right or some shit). And what is an obviously bullshit legal challenge will transform in no time at all to the new actual law of the land, so long as enough GOP judges and justices think it will benefit Trump.

Hoping for the youth vote is like hoping demographic shifts will turn Texas blue. No, that shit actually takes work.

You're going to vote for a guy who called nazis very fine people and there won't be a single Hezbollah flag in the DNC. Get fucked.

Can you hook me up with your weed guy? Because this must come from some truly good shit.

Biden bores the news media and depresses their readership and viewership, so they want a second Trump term.

AOC went on Instagram last night echoing many of my thoughts, which is how I know I'm right and she's the smartest politician to have ever lived. My problem with Biden remaining the nominee at this point is the media will likely just continue the intense focus on his being old for the remainder of the campaign (the idea of that remaining the only real story of this fucking election for another four months might drive me to commit murder) and I don't think Biden can successfully rebut it because he'll continue to have some flubs and some more embarrassing moments like the BET interview. My problem with Biden stepping aside is that nobody pressuring him to do so has actually thought any of this through, it's just a ratfuck campaign from donors mixed with genuine panic by a lot of Democratic officials who I think are putting too much stock in shitty polls. And if the donors will ratfuck Harris too after Biden steps aside and just bribe delegates to pick whomever they prefer, that's not really any different from if Pence had decided he in fact COULD disregard the votes on 1/6 and choose alternate slates of electors. If it's not Biden it has to be Harris, and if they try to bypass Harris Biden needs to drop a Raytheon knife missile on those fuckers.

If Trump wins and everyone starts getting rounded up, these fuckers writing “he’s softened!” pieces better get got.

Nancy has exhibited dogshit political instincts for the entirety of the Trump era of American politics and hasn't spoken with anyone who could be confused for a regular American in years. She's the definition of an out-of-touch California liberal. I don't disagree with you that most Democratic voters would prefer a younger candidate or that there is an enthusiasm problem now that has been exacerbated by the debate. But parallel to that is absolutely an attempt by wealthy donors to regain greater control over the party and they're just using the debate as a pretext for that, and their ratfucking campaign has helped continue to churn out more and more media focus on this. They're even admitting that it's not about the debate on the record to the Times. That's fucking brazen. And what's really rotten about it is none of them are saying they'll support Harris. If they get what they want and Biden steps aside, I bet they'll only be further emboldened and they'll try to ratfuck Harris too. Because with these assholes, if they can't control the party then they don't care if it survives.

Oh fuck that. She stepped aside only after she lost the majority. Nancy is not trying to push Biden out for the good of the party or the good of America, she's doing this for the wealthy donors she's friends with.

Specifically, back room deal making by people who have no real constituencies in the party! This isn't 1950; the delegates aren't actually important party officials who represent local interests or specific interest groups! It's just fuckin random Democrats who wanted to go to the convention because they're dorks and agreed to vote for Biden! Just tossing it to them and telling them to figure it out would be completely fucking insane and would destroy the party.

Those of you saying a brokered convention would be better than Harris absolutely do not understand politics and are going to drive me to drink an unhealthy amount of alcohol.

Many of the donors involved in the pressure campaign are named in the NY Times article I linked on the last page.

Lol, owned.

Agree with all of this. Understanding they're not going to just publicly say "yeah Biden is obviously only functional like 3 hours a day," and it's their job to push back on this shit until it isn't, but they don't need to be just openly lying like this.

From the Times yesterday: This is very clearly a literal Dem elite conspiracy that at least to a significant degree isn't even a response to the debate, but to Biden's too-progressive (in their eyes) domestic policies and their lack of access to and control over the White House. The debate was just the perfect excuse for many of these guys. But the problem is that Biden really can't rebut the narrative that has taken on a life of its own. Sometimes he's energetic, but he'll stumble, and sometimes it's really bad like in that BET interview. And this is still THE story even during the RNC right after someone took a shot at Trump, so it's pretty clear that the NYTimes and other corporate media won't end up moving on to something else, but will keep fucking this chicken right up to the election. There's an alternate timeline where Biden is still like a 25% better communicator than he is now where he could probably run against the party elites and the media on this and even turn it into a positive issue for him, but that's not the Biden we have. I don't even know that it actually improves our chances, but I think at this point it would be best for Biden to step aside for Harris. The media will absolutely try to ratfuck her too, but at least she might be able to counter whatever they're going to hit her on. But she'll need to run as the inheritor of Biden's more progressive policies and somehow rebuke the donors for trying to take over the entire party. Because if she begins showing signs of moderating to please the donors after they sabotaged Biden in a hissy fit that he wasn't treating them like special boys, the party will tear itself apart.

Yeah, having a Jew on the ticket might drive the GOP insane enough to get the media to actually notice that they're fucking nuts.

I know you think you’ll be safe, but you should know that fascist leaders tend to get all of their supporters killed.

If Biden steps aside it’s Harris. I really don’t know why any of y'all still think it could be anybody else. We’ve had candidates picked by democratic primaries for the last 50+ years. Throwing all the votes away to let some big donors select their own preferred candidate, when we’re in an election to save American democracy, would be an insane thing to do.

Y’all could try reading the article.

LEOs are shit at their jobs is a pretty well reasoned and believable answer.

Trump being quiet about it is how you know it wasn't staged, man.

I probably have as many posts as anyone that regularly posts in CR, so I'm obviously a politics pervert, and I had to google him when I saw that poll and had one of those "oh yeah, I think I've heard of him before but know absolutely nothing about him" reactions.

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