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With the Ukraine shit and the Kurd betrayal, you're seeing Trump without the adults in the room that kept this shit from happening the first two and a half years. Agree, this will get worse until he's removed.

They enabled this shit. The fucking traitors. They could force him to resign and have Pence stop this shit tomorrow if they wanted. Fucking cowards. Traitors.

Whistleblower documented accountd of officials with first hand knowledge in contemporaneous memos. Trump should be fucked. WASHINGTON — A White House official who listened to President Trump’s July phone call with Ukraine’s leader described it as “crazy,” “frightening” and “completely lacking in substance related to national security,” according to a memo written by the whistle-blower at the center of the Ukraine scandal, a C.I.A. officer who spoke to the White House official. The official was “visibly shaken by what had transpired,” the C.I.A. officer wrote in his memo, one day after Mr. Trump pressured President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine in a July 25 phone call to open investigations that would benefit him politically. A palpable sense of concern had already taken hold among at least some in the White House that the call had veered well outside the bounds of traditional diplomacy, the officer wrote. “The official stated that there was already a conversation underway with White House lawyers about how to handle the discussion because, in the official’s view, the president had clearly committed a criminal act by urging a foreign power to investigate a U.S. person for the purposes of advancing his own re-election bid in 2020,” the C.I.A. officer wrote. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/us/politics/trump-ukraine-whistleblower.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Long live the King?

With this letter, Trump basically declared himself King, no? What say you, GOP?

Boom. The cross. Her momentum's going to be hard to stop.

He's done this before with the military. He'll walk it back some and we'll move on to the next news cycle. The GOP can't control what they've created. Time to pull the plug while you still can. Impeach and Remove!

What if Trump asked Turkey for some political dirt and this is Erdogan calling in the chips? This is pure speculation but this is the world we live in with a President this corrupt and compromised.

How much of those farm bailouts are getting to actual people versus corporate farms?

"I should recommend a show at my favorite theater."

They definitely log calls. And the only way Trump is held accountable is if Republican senators realize the political fallout of standing by Trump is greater than abandoning him. That's all they care about. Winning. Let them know they're losing. Call,. organize, donate. Fuck these guys. Save the Constitution.

I don't know. People are pissed. And as incompetent as people are, this steady drip of corruption has to move the needle. Watch public opinion polls. I agree if he gets reelected American democracy is done.

If there's enough damning evidence they'll force him to resign or remove him. Most GOP Senators have been quiet through this. They're doing political calculations right now to see at what point sticking by Trump is more costly than the fallout of dumping him. We're quickly reaching that point. They don't care about Trump and they definitely don't care about his base. They care about power and Trump is risking losing it.

Iran's apparently trying to interfere in 2020: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/10/04/iran-tried-hack-us-presidential-candidates-journalists-effort-that-targeted-hundreds-microsoft-finds/ I'm sure Republicans would be just fine with Elizabeth Warren going on CNN to encourage them? That's cool now, right?

Someone, probably Bill Taylor, will admit it and the documents speak for themselves. Witnesses lie, holy shit, the dishonesty.

In fairness to Monica, that appears to be a fake tweet. Very accurate though.

How the hell do you spin those text messages as clearing Trump? There's no way Volker explained those away. Traitorous fucks.

And the media in Nixon's day was much more concentrated. It's far easier today to spin a false narrative through social media and partisan outlets like Fox news.

With these latest developments, think about how if the whistleblower doesn't complain, then Ukraine probably issues that statement announcing an investigation of Hunter Biden in some form.The public would only have seen that and all we would be talking about is Biden's corruption. Regarless of if Ukraine actually investigated or if there was anything there, that statement from Ukraine and the fallout would have significantly hurt Biden. And the President would have compelled it using our foreign and diplomatic power. How is that not impeachable? Holy shit. And if thats wrong but not impeachable (looking at you GOP) them where's the line?How are the actions above any different than promising sanction relief to Russia in exchange for a 2016 effort again? (Oh, which by the way, probably happened and we don't know because Trump OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE 10 times). This is insane.

Other than just straight up lying to the public--I don't see how Republicans defend this. They had gone all in on "there was no quid pro quo" but contemporaneous evidence shows clearly there was. The President withheld military aide to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political rival, making clear the quid pro quo through official diplomatic channels.

You could do a lot in a deposition too, much of which was probably done today. Under any normal circumstances, these guys are fucked. I don't see a defense here.

So the quid pro quo-- if it wasn't already clear-- is spelled out in text messages by diplomats charged with executing the deal? That's what was just released, right? July 25 8:36 am Volker texts: “Heard from White House-assuming President Z. convinces Trump he will investigate / ‘get to the bottom of what happened’ in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington.”

Next he'll tweet his coronation.

That seems pretty damning. Contemporaneous evidence confirming the quid pro quo?

Kasparov with the same sentiment above: This is it GOP, do we have a constitution or not?