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Yeah I think they're a fantastic way to handle this. Low-tech. Get your attention. Those receiving the warning don't need: - to be awake (initially) - to have a cell signal - to have a charged battery - to be registered on CodeRed - to wake up and read a vague message that they will or won't take seriously or comprehend the seriousness of - to be paying attn to facebook or xitter - etc, and it can be automated or monitored 24/7 by a central monitoring station, or both for that matter. Just needs to be maintained and tested regularly, and you only put them where they're needed most - down by the rive in places prone to flash floodingr. Weather/air raid sirens have always worked at getting people's attention and getting them to at minimum start finding out wtf is wrong. Put some signage around (for visitors) that explains that if you hear it, then Death is coming down that river you're sleeping with your toes in, and you have a short time to gtfo. It really couldn't be much simpler.
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True enough, for sure. But there will always be dipshit assholes taking shortcuts or just flat out shirking major responsibilities. The automated detection and sirens would help with that a whole lot.
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Yeah I been saying this since about November, and it's only got much worse since then. I wasn't born here, but I got here as quick as I could, about 50 years ago. Always been pretty rah-rah about this state. Til now. It's all just so deflating.
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No worries! News cycle flies these days.
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For some reason I just remembered this chick I knew at UT. One time a bunch of us were at SPI and she came up with this gem. She said that she wanted to be up and moving around, not because of fitness, fun, etc, but because - get this - she was working on her tan and she said people who just sat or laid on a towel got less sun than people who were up moving around, catching more of the sun's rays. I bet she votes MAGA.
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Re: that CBS video, I'd love to watch it. You got a link? Re: the Counselors, my kid, the middle class son of a teacher and a firefighter, was a camp counselor at Camp Longhorn when he was 16 -18. Part of the appeal was getting to be at a camp we couldn't afford to send him to at the time. He had never been to any camp other than Baylor's fucked up, shitty hoops camp, so he had no experience and his training was on the job. He worked his ass off, learned a lot, and had a blast, but at least at first, he had no training at all other than the sexual conduct training, some videos, and then a meeting for a few hours just before 'active duty'. He was working under a more experienced, older camp counselor who he reported to.
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Probably won't amount to much, but I just tweeted this. Any of y'all on X could retweet it to whatever news agency or reporter you can think of. Who knows. Might catch someone's eye.
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Yep. Forgot about that. And oh yeah, the sirens would be 'too noisy' or somesuch.
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Exactly. It was as simple as having a supervisor (or just about anyone, really) awake and paying attention, and then just giving the order to evacuate up the hill. Sickeningly simple.
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Yeah the trope that they were 'unable' to secure money is unadulterated bullshit. They were able to secure funds from the Obama and Biden admins and simoply chose not to, because stupid and hateful. They were unable to secure funds from the Trump admin, and unable to secure enough funds from Texas. Do I have that right?
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Someone here said HEB would beat them there, right? Which one of y'all was that.
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I haven't paid attention to AFD inside stuff since I left 4 years ago, and I have purposefully stayed out of the loop. I retired at least in part to get away from that. But yeah, I think they already had some problem with the way he was doing things. They even alluded to previous problems in their vote announcement, whatever they may be. What are those problems? No idea. Are there valid issues? Maybe, but I dunno what they are. I'm not here defending Chief Baker or saying he's a saint. I'm also not looking to throw him under the bus or have him be used as a scapegoat by the lunatics out there like Charlie fucking Kirk. We just don't know much, and the complaint seems very strange to me given what has to be balanced in decisions to send specialized equipment and personnel (that you don't have much of to begin with) 100 miles away when you're probably going to need it in short order - to tell people to leave. The only ones I know of who we know tried to get messages to the locals were the NWS, and for whatever reason the locals apparently weren't seeing them. If it's on anyone to try to get Kerrville/Kerr County's shit together 2 days before the storm, it's the State, who Abbott says was already out there. Not Austin. But even if we were to send people out there to get the word out (rather than just trying to communicate with them from here to take the storm seriously and go alert the public on their own), that still could be done with any number of people that aren't specialized personnel who would likely be needed here along with their apparatus, and it likely wouldn't be just AFD people making the trip. I can't make it make sense to send people out there for the purpose of warning the locals, be they officials or the public. IMHO this is probably over something else that was denied. Maybe they have a point. I dunno. I don't like not jumping into the fray to help, 'cause that's what we do. But I also understand that throughout my career the chiefs often had to make tough, sometimes unpopular decisions, that we didn't always understand or have enough info to make an informed judgement over. I need a lot more info before I can pin this on the chief as some sort of terrible disservice.
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They just asked questions. I didn't see any conclusion-jumping. I'm also unsure why you'd need to send anyone to tell people to get out, much less specialized personnel, when you could just communicate and coordinate with officials there to do the same thing without our people going there.
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Not sure there is much under the hat.
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