
GW Hayduke
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28 minutes ago, Js1 said:
Twitter hot takes against Democrats get more clicks than hot takes against the GOP. The very online left is always ready and willing to skewer Democrats for not going too far, too fast or too hard in the paint.
Plus this shit usually follows with some sort of grifty fundraising because "the corporatist, pro police state Biden admin is labeling me a domestic terrorist because I won't conform to the DNC's corporate belief system and I need your help!" or some shit.
Yeah. The left aren't immune from regurgitating dumb twitter takes. Ideally, we on the left would be less susceptible to dumb twitter takes.
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7 hours ago, lmao said:
We already have laws on the books & bloated law enforcement. No need to increase the survelliance state & loosley redefine what a domestic terrorist is. If Trump was still in office I assume there would be a lot more mainstream scrutiny of this.
And none of that warrants the fact the tweet you shared was dumb. Below is the report the dumb tweet references. The report simply describes threats and makes judgments on which groups pose greater risks. It is a short read. If you want to share or evaluate the idea that we need less law enforcement or that we need less online monitoring for future violence, this report or a dumb fallacious tweet doesn't help with that.
https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/UnclassSummaryofDVEAssessment-17MAR21.pdf
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58 minutes ago, lmao said:
Do you support the Patriot Act?
Irrelevant question.
There are various groups of violent extremists. Some are motivated by religion. Some by racial supremacy. Some by economic ideals. What they all have in common is violence.
Biden’s DOJ is not saying all anti-capitalists are violent extremists. It is saying that some violent extremists oppose capitalism. It should be obvious to most folks. The tweet you shared was a dumb tweet.
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19 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:
Just so I'm clear here, D and R senators got in front of a microphone together yesterday and said we have a deal on infrastructure with Biden saying "they gave me their word and that's good enough for me".
Then after that press conference Pelosi and Biden both say versions of 'the bipartisan bill that was agreed to won't get passed unless it is done in tandem with a reconciliation bill' even though that was apparently not discussed during negotiations. What was the point of any negotiation if that was going to be the ultimate position? Why even ask for a single drop of R support if you were going to do a reconciliation bill regardless? I assume the point of the charade was to put pressure on Manachin and KS but who knows.
One idea is the GOP and their constituents (corporations, oligarchs, investors, rural states) may have valuable input on hard infrastructure. With that input, the bill could be better.
Also since this is politics, we are dealing with perceptions. Biden has positioned himself in the middle - a guy that can work with both sides. Having a bipartisan deal feeds that perception. If the GOP want to slap his hand now, that is fine. It feeds the perception that they aren't serious about governing, even when it comes to popular issues.
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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:
Very dangerous attitude to have blaming a family member for the sins of another. Do you have any actual evidence he is a risk, or are you just going to line families up against the wall when your civil war starts?
Have you ever heard of Hunter Biden?
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After the GOP's overperformance in the 2020 election, everyone knew Biden wasn't going to be able to pass much of his agenda. Had the Dems been the ones who overperformed and had the stars aligned, we would be seeing huge structural changes to our democracy (For the People Act, DC and PR statehood, etc. etc.). However, no one should be the least bit shocked at what is currently going on in the Senate. This was all apparent immediately after the election. Losing Maine, NC, and Iowa were big. Dems even had a puncher's chance in Montana. It sucks. Elections have consequences.
2020 was about removing the clown and building a big enough lead in the Senate to be able to ram through For the People Act and increase the number of senators. We failed at the second part. 2022 gives us another opportunity.
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1 minute ago, Mrs Whiggins said:
Speaking of funding and elections, this is a primer for what is occurring:
Worthwhile thread by Gertz and commentary by Litman. Click on the tweet for a longer thread.
Yep. And those same pictures were at the top of the fox news website yesterday. There are millions of Americans caught inside these manufactured information bubbles. They are fed the same story from cable news, right-wing talk radio, twitter heads, their facebook feed, and their trusted news websites. Propaganda works. There is an alternative reality within a large part of the US.
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In memory of McAfee, I found this debate about government licenses both entertaining and sad. Oddly, Gary Johnson comes in with the common sense.
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If we all think about the server, maybe we can finally move past the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. Maybe we can all forget what the Mueller report established.
• Mueller report confirmed that Trump campaign chairman and deputy chairman Manafort and Gates were sharing internal polling data with an operative who Gates had thought was a Russian spy.
• The Mueller report confirmed that Trump campaign manager and convicted felon Paul Manafort offered to give private briefings during the campaign to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska.
• Following Trump's public call for Russia to find Clinton's missing emails he privately directed former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn to find them.
• The Mueller report confirmed that foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos attempted to arrange meetings between Putin and Trump and that the President approved of Papadopoulos's work.
• The report also confirmed that Trump campaign surrogates met with Russians in Trump Tower soliciting damaging information on their political opponent. The report goes on to mention that Trump surrogates who attended the meeting weren't charged with violating campaign finance law because there wasn’t admissible evidence to show that Trump surrogates knew that what they were doing was illegal.
• The report confirmed Russia's extensive election interference.
• Over the course of the investigation we learned that a Trump campaign adviser was directed to find out about future DNC leaks. Roger Stone was in contact with Wikileaks and the Russian hackers known as Guciffer 2.0 and is currently on trail.
• Over the course of the investigation we learned that the President's long time personal attorney and convicted felon Michael Cohen lied to Congress about the Trump Organization pursuing a lucrative hotel project in Moscow during the 2016 election.-
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1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:
You are a broken fucking record. Additional source material put the number lower. What you can't or won't acknowledge is even at the lowest number: 100,000, that is a fuck ton of self-defense instances. And those or the ones we know about.
I'll be a broken record, until you start understanding the information you read and stop presenting lies and misinformation. That will likely require you removing the propaganda from your information bubble.
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Just now, BabaYaga said:
And another study found the number close to 100,000.....so again, even if we use that number it's still a shit tom of incidents each year. Which was the goddamn point.
The point is your inability to comprehend what progun propaganda puts in front of you and your inability to critically evaluate. It is the same point with your wild Fauci conspiracies.
Someone told you "the CDC said 500,000 to 3 million events of defensive gun uses!!!!" Yeah, no. Not even close. It came from a dude's fucking book.
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Just now, BabaYaga said:
Lol, the study affirmed millions of uses each year. That was the question. My quote you also included. Even if it is 100,00+ cases each year, that is a staggering number of instances of self defense.
No, the CDC study does not affirm millions of uses each year. You are are a literal moron who does not understand what you are sharing with others.
The CDC study presented the findings from a range of studies. Your data comes from one of those studies. That particular study was published in 2001 by Gary Kleck. That citation is:
Kleck, G. 2001a. The frequency of defensive gun use: Evidence and disinformation. In Armed: New Perspectives on Gun Control, edited by G. Kleck and D. B. Kates. Amherst, NY: Prometheus Books. Pp. 213-284.
So, the CDC does not affirm jack shit. Nothing you have shared is "according to the CDC." Kleck in 2001 provides your hopeful affirmation. Go to school and learn how to understand what the fuck you read before sharing with others. Dumb ass.
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1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:
According to the CDC, it's in the millions each year....but hey, you have a single shot .410.....
This is a lie. That is not according to the CDC. The CDC conducted a study and presented the range of findings related to firearms as a starting off point to direct future research.
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3
As is the case with right wing propaganda, they misuse and misunderstand sourced information. That is one of the underlying reasons your side is often viewed as clowns.
For other non-clowns, the discussion related to defensive uses:
QuoteDefensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010). On the other hand, some scholars point to a radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997). The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field. The estimate of 3 million defensive uses per year is based on an extrapolation from a small number of responses taken from more than 19 national surveys. The former estimate of 108,000 is difficult to interpret because respondents were not asked specifically about defensive gun use.
A different issue is whether defensive uses of guns, however numerous or rare they may be, are effective in preventing injury to the gun-wielding crime victim. Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was “used” by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies (Kleck, 1988; Kleck and DeLone, 1993; Southwick, 2000; Tark and Kleck, 2004). Effectiveness of defensive tactics, however, is likely to vary across types of victims, types of offenders, and circumstances of the crime, so further research is needed both to explore these contingencies and to confirm or discount earlier findings.
Even when defensive use of guns is effective in averting death or injury for the gun user in cases of crime, it is still possible that keeping a gun in the home or carrying a gun in public—concealed or open carry—may have a different net effect on the rate of injury. For example, if gun ownership raises the risk of suicide, homicide, or the use of weapons by those who invade the homes of gun owners, this could cancel or outweigh the beneficial effects of defensive gun use (Kellermann et al., 1992, 1993, 1995). Although some early studies were published that relate to this issue, they were not conclusive, and this is a sufficiently important question that it merits additional, careful exploration.
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5 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:
Who said I was against expanded checks? I said expanding the current system that us unable to match the current demand and expand it a matter of multiples is fucking stupid. But you can't or won't see that....or are you saying we need to scrap the current NICS database and process, and build a completely new one from scratch? If you, so are a weapons-grade moron.
I get it. You are only for expanded background checks once the system is perfect. I've already clowned on that enough.
Even though the progun propaganda tells you accept dumb positions, you don't have to parrot.
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Just now, BabaYaga said:
So let me get this straight. The current background check process doesn't work, so instead of fixing that one, we just need to layer and even more complicated one on top of it? That about right? As most expanded background proposals involve expanding the NICS database...the one currently in use that keeps missing people it should have caught?
Like I said, fucking clown....
Yes. Being against expanding background checks is clownish. Even more so, when your reason is because the existing system isn't perfect. The only thing I can do is point out to you that your brain is melted and your position is dumb. I know the progun propaganda tells you to be against universal background checks and they give you reasons, but when those reasons are dumb, you need to be able to stop parroting.
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1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:
We're not talking ALL guns. This is specifically in reference to CHL and open carry. Since 2007 you have roughly 1,000+/- deaths by this group. More than half are suicides.
Why no sources? Seems eerily familiar to Tucker Carlson's Fauci narratives. Hmmm. I wonder why that is.
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6 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:
Are you completely fucking retarded? I clearly stated earlier that there would and is common ground between both sides - specifically on vetting and fixing current laws on the books that both sides support but we are unable to maintain them. Shoring up the NICS database is one of them. Straw buyers are another. Fucking clown....
Uhhh. You are the clown that thinks expanding background checks as an absurd idea - an "absurd idea" because the existing system isn't perfect.
20 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:Do you see how absurd it is to argue for expanded background checks when we can't facilitate the background process currently on the books?
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3 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:
Do you see how absurd it is to argue for expanded background checks when we can't facilitate the background process currently on the books?
The system isn't perfect, so we shouldn't make an effort to fix the system!!!
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20 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:
I did? Really? Or did I question why the man took advantage of a new administration in 2017 after the prior banned his research due to safety reasons to set up a shop in a foreign country doing GOF research funded by the US? Weird, right? Then have the same guy who controls millions if not billions in GOF research money be the same guy repeatedly telling us GOF research and a lab leak hypothesis were preposterous ideas
Or why, if concealed and open carriers are such threats to your personal safety, where are all the bodies? Since 2007 there have been roughly 1,000+ deaths attributed to CHL carriers NOT related to self-defense. Of those, more than half were suicides.
LAST YEAR more than 700 people were killed by hands and feet. So sure, you want to keep fucking that chicken, by all means. COULD carriers kill more. Sure, but they aren't. So this idea that they are "threat" to anyone is absurd when you look at the actual causes of death YOY.
I get it. You've cracked the code on Fauci!!! It is everyone else who has melted brains!!
On 6/2/2021 at 4:46 PM, BabaYaga said:Fauci wrote in 2012 that gain-of-function research could "spark a pandemic" but he felt the benefits of it outweighed the risks. Obama shut him down in 2014. Under the nose of Trump, he started them back up in Wuhan with US grant money in 2017. He covered-up a possible lab origin not just from the public but from the most senior White House national security officials as he knew this would lead back in time to his ties to this lab and it's GOF research being done there.
On 6/2/2021 at 5:24 PM, BabaYaga said:Are you this unaware? JFC. Why am I not surprised...
All GOF research goes through Faucci. He is the godfather of GOF research. Over 15 years more than $230M went into the these labs. Specifically, ACE2 receptors in human lung tissue to try and prevent and predict the next pandemic.
In 2014 Obama shut him down citing safety concerns.
In 2017 he quietly re-opened the research and much of the research moved to Wuhan...on his own, without WH approval
In 2018 the lab was cited for safety violations
Faucci is THE premier actor in GOF research. He controls all the NIH and other grant money; including the $3.7M grant most recently approved for GOF research on the horsehoe bats. We are learning that he knew from day one this was a genetically created virus from the labs he helped fund. Jesus, when it first broke, Robert Redfield, head of the CDC and respected virologist told us it came from a lab....and he was castigated, called a racist, etc.
These emails clearly illustrate Faucci trying to cover his own ass for an outbreak he himself predicted could very well happen back into 2012, but thought the research too valuable to stop.
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Just now, Js1 said:
That idiocy absolutely just makes me hate them even more.
I find it most productive to consider how people get their brain melted like baby yaga.
He believed Fauci was the main conspirator with covid, which followed precisely with what right wing propaganda was telling him. The emails released by FOIA was a big deal for him. I was never able to get from him anything about his background other than be sources breitbart, Tucker Carlson, and other dubious sources.
Now in the gun thread, he seems to think a statistical analysis comparing firearms with hands/feet is somehow relevant to the debate around concealed/open carry.
The real question is probably something along the lines of, "If someone is captured by propaganda, do they know?" I'm thinking along the lines of acknowledgment of a problem is often the first step toward fixing.
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Just now, BabaYaga said:
Then could easily provide a bevvy of statistics of concealed and open carry attackers that opened up in bars and restaurants and other public venues. There a tens of millions of them, so your sample size should be easy to validate. Then cross reference these deaths with the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of deaths each year attributed to hands and feet.
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17 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:
The scary ones of course......
The clown from the Anthony Fauci thread shown to be programmed by far right conspiracy propaganda is also programmed by far right gun rights propaganda. I'm shocked.
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Kamala Harris 2021
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That article was lame. Typical politico. This is not the "second time she's had a real messy team behind her" or a "legitimate red flag." This is a bunch of he said, she said, unsubstantiated rumors. A similar article could be written about any politician in office. Anyone who factors this article into their decision making process concerning support for a presidential candidate, should take a pause.