
GW Hayduke
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The Atlantic is bullshit.  Did they not read the emails? This is about bringing justice upon that mad psychopath Anthony Fauci.
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8 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:
They’re Communists and an authoritarian country. There’s a reason why we have intelligence agencies. We know how they’re going to behave. What are we going to do to stop it? Not a goddamned thing.
We use diplomacy (or the military) to get countries to do things. It works best with a lot of allies. Our relationship with allies was heavily strained under trump, but are much better now. Adopting scientific research standards or sharing data on diseases in the populations are the type of things diplomacy can accomplish.  Enforcement and ensuring use of standards is more difficult. Diplomacy isn’t 100% effective
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8 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:
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Trump won WV by 39 points.  This shot isn’t complicated
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11 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
The ballot box is the trailing indicator. It's where people go AFTER something else has shifted them. It's downward in the chain of action and change.
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The Dems do not motivate their base because they fucking hate their own base openly. You will never see GOP politicians scold their base as much as Democrats do, so is it any wonder that Democrats fucking lose all the time despite having the most popular platform?
"Vote for us, you scum. You pieces of entitled shit. God I hate you. Just vote already and shut up. The right-wing has you idiots nailed. Vote for me."
You are triggered when folks point out excessive cancel culture is dumb? You think the Dems should embrace cancel culture and run with it at the top of the platform?
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59 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:
Seriously, though. I have mentioned it in passing on this and other threads.
Right now you google "Fauci" anything and you get a really alarming return of goofy-ass, borderline Q sites repeating all this nonsense.
I don't trust much media and try to go to sources when I can and read very critically to see if the inferences made in articles are fair.
But the sheer amount of repetition from kooky "media" is really something else.
I don't think BY is an idiot. He's fully capable of discerning stuff driven by an agenda, but it's quite the demonstration of how the gullible or willing can be sucked in.
I guess this is a blinding glimpse of the obvious, but if you haven't noticed it before, give it a try.
As a lawyer, I am used to reading "persuasive" or argumentative documents. And you develop an intuition or spider-sense of when a controversial allegation or argument is made. And you expect a citation to a factual or other source that supports that contention. And when there's no citation, you immediately think "bullshit" or this is taking liberties. So much of this lacks that citation, and when it has it, it's just to another opinion/editorial piece that makes the same assertion without a citation. It even gets circular at times.
I don’t think Babayaga is an idiot in terms of not being able to differentiate his pillow case from toilet paper.
However, he clearly has been captured by right wing propaganda in this case. Was he also captured by Qanon, Jade helm, trump resuming office in August, CRT phobia, ukrainegate, Hillary’s emails, and Benghazi? Probably some of it.Â
Everyone is susceptible to propaganda to a certain extent. Some are more vulnerable than others. Not everyone has an education and job experiences that allow for fine tuned critical thinking skills. Has our basic education system failed at preparing people for today’s information world? Hopefully not for the young. For older folks, their education clearly didn’t prepare them for this world.  What do we do about that?
Ideally, folks recognize they have a problem and have been duped at some point. Hopefully, they realize they are in a rabbit hole. That seems like a big step IMO. After that, it seems obvious they should cut out the blatant propaganda from their media diet - Tucker, daily caller, random you tubers, random twitter accounts, Facebook, and Fox News.  And replace that with more moderate sources - WSJ, PBS, NPR, Texas tribune, Post, Times, AP, Reuters, austin American statesman.
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1 minute ago, Goofyboy said:
Georgia just elected two Senators. They shouldn’t be up until 2026, right?
Warnock’s seat is up. His win was a special election since the previous dude resigned midway through his term
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4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
I am.Â
What are your conclusions after your thinking with regards to how to get the necessary votes out of West Virginia and such?
I’m not thinking about WV and Manchin’s seat other than it is wild he is able to win there.  WV doesn’t have a senate seat up for election in 2022. I’m thinking about NC, Wisconsin, Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Arizona in 2022.
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Manchin wins statewide elections as a democrat in a state that went for Trump by 39 points. Think about that for a second.  WV was Trump’s second strongest showing, only behind Wyoming. There shouldn’t be an expectation that he totes 100% of the party line.Â
The reality is that the GOP over performed expectations in 2020 and the Dems did not make enough gains in the Senate (Maine, North Carolina) to make the kind of drastic reforms needed. It sucks.  It sucks a lot. Everyone knew it sucked immediately after the election. What is going on now shouldn’t be a surprise.
I’m hopeful something happens. But I’m not expecting anything grand at this point.  Hopes for true drastic democratic reforms such as DC and PR statehood, For the People Act, etc. will require Dem gains in the Senate in 2022.
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7 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:
Is that worth the absolutely zero fucking percent chance that this pretense of a commitment to norms could earn any goodwill from Republicans?Â
This isn't about a transaction. The DOJ isn't doing this so Biden can get some political win down the line. This is about a non-partisan DOJ doing what a non-partisan does. They determined trump was acting as a federal employee and are defending him as such. The courts may not allow it, which is fine. Having non-partisan agencies following established procedures is what we want from government. We don't want them driven by shifting political winds. Â
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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:
The argument that his statements were made within the scope of the office is flatly wrong and is the problem here. They’re not trying to uphold existing precedent, they’re trying to expand immunity to cover literally all conduct by a president while in office, regardless of its connection or lack thereof to the execution of the duties of the office.
Barr's DOJ set the precedent in this case. Â
Statement by the plaintiff's attorney, "The DOJ’s position is not only legally wrong, it is morally wrong since it would give federal officials free license to cover up private sexual misconduct by publicly brutalizing any woman who has the courage to come forward."
The DOJ may lose their appeal. That would be great IMO. However, this is what a non-partisan DOJ looks like.
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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:
It's not.
It is rather obvious that is what is going on here. Do you have source to the contrary?Â
ÂQuote"Then-President Trump's response to Ms. Carroll's serious allegations of sexual assault included statements that questioned her credibility in terms that were crude and disrespectful," Brian Boynton, the acting head of the department's Civil Division, wrote in the brief. "But this case does not concern whether Mr. Trump's response was appropriate. Nor does it turn on the truthfulness of Ms. Carroll's allegations."
Instead, Boynton said, it boils down to a few legal questions, including whether a president is an "employee of the government" and whether Trump's denials were made within the scope of his office.Â
The department said the answer to both questions is yes, and therefore under federal law it said the government should be able to replace Trump as defendant in the case.
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44 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:
It's not the biggest thing but this has probably made me angrier than anything else his administration has done so far.
One perceived downfall of putting Biden in office is that his team takes governing seriously and instead of playing politics, they follow regs, established guidance and procedures, and precedent.  I’m assuming that is what the DOJ is doing here. I’m assuming there is established procedure on determining when an action by POTUS should be considered an action by a government employee and thus when it shouldn’t be defended by the government. Â
We want our agencies to follow procedures rather than politics.
I get is feels shitty. I get it is something to be embarrassed and ashamed about. I’m embarrassed that our gov attorneys are wasting tax money on this.  If we don’t want to be embarrassed by this kind of stuff, we shouldn’t elect an utter clown to office.Â
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8 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:
So you think this is all made up? Is that your stance?Â
- The banning of the research in 2014?Â
- His going behind the back of the WH to re-engage the same previously banned research in 2017?Â
- The two cable leaks in 2018 stating empathically the lax safety protocols and concern of leaks and other dangers
- The WIV database going offline in 2019 when first reports surfaced?
- Fauci, and his good friend Daszak specifically going to investigate the lab, who are all friends with the technicians in the lab (an obvious conflict of interest for any actual investigation)? That didn't happen?
- Daszak and his fellow scientists that conducted the interviews then publishing their "report" that a lab leak was not plausible and started pushing the natural spill over theory, despite there being no actual animals anywhere near the outbreak nor have their been a single on recovered since this started.
- This single paper then being sourced hundreds and hundreds of times as the "proof" that it was not nor could not have been a leak (we call that source bias, BTW)
- None of this happened?
- Fauci's and the NIH grant money to the tune of millions of dollars funneled to the lab? So they sent millions, and yet had zero knowledge of the research being down there, despite some of having been actually published? To be crystal clear, is that your stance - that nobody has the slightest clue what was going on there?
- Are you saying this is all misinformation? None of it's true? Â
I’m more interested in your background.  How would you describe your underlying education and experience in dealing with information?  Where do you get most of your current information?  I see you’ve shared some daily caller and another conspiracy site.  You may have been the person that linked a video of Tucker Carlson.  Do you get a lot of information from youtube? Twitter? Facebook?
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20 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:
I am not going to make fun of Babayaga since  t is fairly clear this is someone that has been pulled directly into a conspiracy rabbit hole. While I think it would be great if we didn’t have people who were susceptible to being taken in by wild conspiracy theories I think this continued insistence from them on digging in and telling all of us that this is a multi-layered conspiracy shows you exactly why people like Trump succeed at what they do. They find marks and they feed them exactly what they want to hear to the point that it does not matter what factual information you counter with. They will have something new everyday from either an obscure source or one that is demonstrably false to the “non-believer” but is gospel to them.
Again I wish we didn’t have millions of our fellow citizens exhibiting the exact behavior we are seeing in this thread because it just exacerbates the amount of work to be done to eradicate the conspiratorial mindset that is hindering society as a whole right now.
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2 hours ago, BabaYaga said:Source & confirmation bias. They ran with the story Daszak and his team pushed. Hook, line, & sinker
BabaYaga. What's your story? It seems possible you've been taken for a ride down the rabbit hole. Do you care to open up and tell us about yourself? Â
FYI: The times published a great podcast about how folks get into the rabbit hole of misinformation. There was an good segment about a guy that was pushed into it by youtube's algorithms. Â
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rabbit-hole/id1507423923
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1 hour ago, TriStone said:
Please. You know damn well your gramps would have been steaming mad about it and, being unable to lay hands on the person who called him that, would most likely have even vented about it to others via available communication mediums of the day. What he most definitely would NOT have done is go look in a mirror and tell himself, "Oh my god! I am a giant pussy!"
He'd know what we all know: The giant pussy is the person calling people names simply because they know they can do it without getting popped in the mouth.
Bullshit. “Sticks and stones” was taught to school age children.  Gramps didn’t need a safe space. Gramps didn’t whine about name calling.  Gramps wouldn’t have allowed himself to adopt the victimhood mentality that Trump sold to too many weak minded pussies.
There are people on here literally complaining about name calling and folks defending them. Â I feel ashamed by this.Â
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1 minute ago, Macklemore said:It’s beyond the message board and you know that. Liberals control public schools, higher education, HR departments, MSM, entertainment and social media. Every influential institution in this country. Do you read the NYT, WaPo or watch CNN? There is a reason for the “victimhood” feelings. My view is we need to get to work and build from the ground up and the first place to do it is in education. Counter the liberal stranglehold in academia with funding from wealthy conservatives to get young conservatives in the academic pipeline. It will take a generation to see results.
Not only are you a victim of name calling on a message board, but you are also a victim in the real world!!!! Yes. We get it. You feel like a victim. That is the problem. Stop being a gaping pussy. Â
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22 minutes ago, TriStone said:
I'll bet if someone had called your grandpa a Nazi he'd have wanted to beat the living shit out of that person if he could get his hands on him. Would his offense at being called a name rate him as a gaping pussy as well?
My gramps sure as shit wouldn't be whining about being called a name on a message board. Â
7 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:This is kind of ironic coming from a party that encourages paying people to sit at home because “pay is not enough for bartenders!”  UBI for everyone because it’s just impossible to be middle class these days.  Let’s cap and redistribute the wealth of the most intelligent and hard working of our society because it’s just not fair they were smarter and worked harder.  Victimhood and giant gaping pussies indeed. Â
It is ok to be a gaping victim and whine about name calling on a message board because the other side thinks about ways to address wealth inequality? What is wrong with you?
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8 hours ago, Hook1997 said:
or you would get called names by both.  You can post a view you express on one topic and they know nothing about what you think on other topics and everyone who doesn’t agree with will call you a nazi, socialist, ectÂ
Holy fucking shit. My grandpa served during WWII and was a top notch man's man. Dude built his house with his own hands. He passed what he knew down to his grandkids. He was a true reflection of one of our greatest generations.  I am so fucking glad he is no longer around to see how "conservative" Americans have turned into such gaping pussies. You are concerned about being called names? You are concerned about being misunderstood?  Are you fucking for real? Please tell me you are being sarcastic and just trolling. Please! And people are upvoting your weakass shit.
What the fuck is wrong with you people? Seriously. Where did all of this victimhood come from? Do you ever look in the mirror and think to yourself, "Oh my god! I am giant pussy!" Have you ever pondered on why you turned out this way? Was it the way you were raised? Did mommy tell you that you were always right? Is it the cable news show you watch nightly? Maybe the social media you consume? Whatever happened, please share so we can dissect and understand so that our children don't turn into giant gaping pussies. Â
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If he ends up running for governor, does he have to show his birth certificate?
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3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4104828
This is where some of this might be going. NIH/Fauci funded EcoHealth(middle man) which it appears may have been using those funds to fund GoF research at WIV. this is where Paul is going with Fauci and I believe Fauci is being coy about funding GoF at WIV.  I believe Fauci already admitted to some funding for WIV.
there are emails where Fauci is communicating with someone and that person says it appears a portion of the virus potentially looks engineered.  that person ends up writing a paper that says it isn't. Could there be a cover up there? who knows but I wouldn't put it past them because it does them no good to confirm the virus was partially engineered/not completely natural.
Ok. Thanks for providing.
The accusation against fauci is that he lied to congress by saying he didn’t know the origin when he actually did know.  The source you provided indicates scientist said the virus looked potentially engendered, but then a few months later published a paper saying the virus was not engineered. That interesting stuff but isn’t evidence he lied, from my understanding.Â
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10 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/05/25/fauci-admits-nih-funding-of-wuhan-lab-denies-gain-of-function/amp/
Yea you can’t study bats in fairfax county Virginia because I guess there’s too many rules and restrictions. The honest guys in China will handle it…then blame it on the bats if it escapes.
That’s the plan. Ready break!Your claim was that Fauci stated to congress that he didn’t know the origin but that the emails prove he did know and that he was lying. At least, that was what it seemed you were claiming.Â
I didn’t see that claim supported by the NY post article.  Can you point where?  Did it link the subject email, but I missed it?
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4 minutes ago, dcar00 said:
yes um Dr Fauci
This is the second time I’ve asked for sources about various accusations.  Both times the response is hand wave.
You conspiracy theory guys suck at conspiracy theories.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci Appreciation Thread
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