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GW Hayduke

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  1. Not everyone lost with Trump. Putin won. White nationalism won. An expanding wealth division won. The top 2% won. Steel workers won. Everyone else lost even if they’ve chosen to identify themselves as a trump supporter.
  2. See the Post story above. Russia preferred Trump and Sanders. They both presented anti globalist views for America. Both were against the TPP and both were interested in restricting free trade with the idea it would protect US workers at home. A retracting US economic footprint in the world squarely fits with Putin’s desire to expand Russia’s
  3. Good take on how to look at redactions when the report comes out. “Don’t be quick to jump to the conclusion that redactions suggest that a coverup is happening. The better approach is to examine whether the redactions significantly impede understanding of Mueller’s conclusions or whether the report is still largely comprehensible. Redactions are far more concerning and suspicious if they are extensive and if they blot out conclusions than they are if they are sparse and merely remove evidentiary detail. In his second letter to Congress, Barr laid out four different categories of likely redactions: grand jury material; sensitive material that may compromise intelligence community sources and methods if made public; material that could affect “other ongoing matters,” including investigations referred out from the special counsel’s office; and material that would “unduly infringe on the personal privacy and reputational interests of peripheral third parties.” Not all these categories are of comparable weight. Redaction of grand jury material is legally required, at least in the absence of a court order to the contrary—and Barr has said that he will not seek such an order as an initial matter. Redaction of material related to intelligence sources and methods is important and a legitimate concern for the intelligence community. Capacious redactions for the privacy of “peripheral third parties,” by contrast, should draw greater suspicion. Redactions to protect pending matters are exactly as defensible as they are proximately related to matters actually still pending.” https://www.lawfareblog.com/memo-press-how-not-screw-mueller-report
  4. He has been seemingly successful thus far in stonewalling. Why not keep it up while still maintaining his and the DOJ’s integrity? Why throw it all away on the eve of the report release?
  5. He was able to pretend that he was going follow the rule of law, but not anymore. There was a lot of value in being able to rely on the DOJ’s credibility when it came to justifying redactions. That is all gone. I feel something is compelling him. My sense is that Barr has given up on being able to hide the damaging information in the Report. Either he’s not able to redact it or he knows it’s just a matter of time.
  6. I agree it was calculated. It can be calculated but still be a misstep. This was obviously intended to pander to trump, his base, Fox News but should remove most doubt that he is able to act impartially. I’m actually baffled by Barr
  7. I guess we should add Barr’s stance on “spying” to the list of actions that squarely fit within political theatre. Kind of shocking he did this days before releasing his redacted version of the report. This was self-inflicted and lowers his credibility even further. I would consider it a political misstep. It will be very difficult for objective observers to trust Barr’s redacted version of the report.
  8. Barr’s son works within the White House I believe. I doubt that is Barr’s motivation though. I suspect his primary motivation is he wants to protect the gop and maintain the redistribution of wealth to the upper class, which he likely believes is best for the US. Getting the country to move on from Mueller increases the odds that wealth redistribution continues.
  9. “But Hillary!” ”Both SiDeS!” ”The system is broken because it gave us Hillary!” lulz The mental gymnastics required to deflect from the current state of the White House is amazing. Hillary’s primary flaw was being the subject of a decades long campaign of bashing by Fox News, talking heads, radio hosts to the point that people just accept that “Hillary = corruption” without any evidence.
  10. Congress is getting all of the report. It’s just a matter of when. Dems aren’t in a hurry. The GOP either rips the bandaid off now or prolonges while showing the public they are hiding information, which only builds it up more and more. The only questions in my mind is how long it takes for Congress to get the full report and then how much of the report will be released to the public. Politics is a game
  11. Democrats aren’t in a hurry. They are taking it nice and slow until the public is in the mood. The end game isn’t until the 2020 election. They are moving forward on multiple fronts but don’t want it to be over too quickly, they want it to last, build up the suspense. And then Boom! We got Joe Biden griden from behind
  12. One statement that worries me from the NYT piece. ”Mr. Barr was also wary of departing from Justice Department practice not to disclose derogatory details in closing an investigation, according to two government officials familiar with Mr. Barr’s thinking.” Imagine taking a black marker and removing everything derogatory to trump, his campaign, or anyone around him.
  13. And I think this gets us back to what is “sensitive information” and what needs to be redacted from the public. It is probable that Barr’s standard is much different from the SC’s office. Barr, a political appointee who’s past actions have all been political theatre to minimize damage to POTUS, is undoubtably applying as stringent a standard as possible (infringement on reputational interests of peripheral third parties, etc.).
  14. There are rumors the Mueller report contains evidence of a secret meeting where trump admits to Lester Holt that he fired the director of the fbi because of the “russia thing.”
  15. The NYT and WaPo reporting isn’t surprising since we know Barr’s letters were nothing but political theatre. Any professional would be pissed if that happened to their work. However it should be noted that these are second hand sources.
  16. @PolishPatriotTM isn’t a politician
  17. ? And the tweet is still misleading propaganda.
  18. Is Nadler inconsistent now? Congress had the star report and they were debating about what to releases to the public.
  19. I remember when Hillary’s daughter-in-law was trying to setup a back channel of communication with Tehran
  20. This is a good break down of many issues with Barr’s letter that I’ve seen here and elsewhere. It is only 13 minutes long and helps put the letter in perspective. I recommend for anyone who thinks “the Mueller investigation found no evidence of collusion” - seemingly most in the media.
  21. You were talking about a coordinated attack on our democracy by a foreign power but now refer to trump campaign conspired with Russian government. This is the same political theatre game Barr is playing with the media/public with his publicly released letters. One requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt and is limited to “Russian government.” Are cutouts considered “Russian government btw?” Do you feel that there was not a coordinated attack on our democracy by a foreign power? Does the DNC hacking and Russian troll farm fit there? Flynn’s discussions on sanctions with Russians and his previous financial gains from them fit? Discussions on trading dirt on Hillary for sanction relief fit at trump tower? A crime does not need to have occurred for a foreign actor to influence US policy. We shouldn’t want foreign influence over our policy whether criminal or not. Ideally Mueller’s report evaluated this, and this is exactly what Barr would be inclined to redact.
  22. Why not both? It is all about foreign influence over our political system. We are all aware the existing indictments of the Russian troll farm and DNC hacking operation. Why ignore those? Those operations were conducted to influence the US election and therefore influence US policy. Meetings about Russian sanctions during the campaign, shifting GOP stance in Ukraine during the campaign would be consistent with those operations. Financial crimes leading to foreign influence over political actors (Manafort, NRA, Kushner?, etc) would also be consistent with those operations.
  23. Great point. Everyone knows that the Iran contra investigation was just one big Witch Hunt. No one had ever treated a president so unfairly. Barr was just a law-and-order, follow-the-process kind of fellow, who took a stand against that witch hunt. Anyone who would question Barr’s patriotism or be concerned that not a single person spent time in prison over Iran-contra, just doesn’t understand law-and-order like I do. This is why no one should question Barr’s ability to redact the Mueller report based on the unduly infringement on the reputational interests of peripheral third parties. Law and order. Follow the process. All good. Nothing to see.
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