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TXSooner518

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  1. I’m sure you identify with the warden and are big sad about the oppression of the obtuse just so others can be free.
  2. Sure seems weird if he’s so popular and Florida so red why the intense gerrymandering.
  3. Or it’s not a narrative, it’s just ya know what the fucking bill does.
  4. So if they come up with a law that says if your skin is darker than a certain level your bail is doubled, and people call that the Bigger Bail for Blacks Bill, is that political calculations or just a descriptor of what ignorant bigots have done yet again?
  5. Yes yes that’s all well and good but you see your child simply must feel ostracized and weird and less than because if not than some people might have to explain weird concepts like “different people are attracted to different people” to their kids and reducing depression and suicide in children just isn’t worth that!
  6. Because that’s the fucking effect of the law as you illustrate by recommending books that discuss straight marriage while supporting termination, prosecution, and civil liability for teachers who mention same sex marriage. It’s not a fucking tough concept. Or are you going to argue this law was passed bc there were discussion of hetero marriage so problematic that they needed to be outlawed?
  7. One side passing a horseshit law and the other objecting isn’t “both sides making an issue”. It isn’t an issue until the law is proposed and passed, which was done by one side.
  8. And is RIDICULOUSLY unfair to teachers, as in my earlier example of "we went to Six Flags", "I went camping", "I went to a wedding" for the teacher to be expected to immediately halt discussion without hurting the 3rd kid's feelings, lest the teacher be fired, sued, and/or prosecuted because Lisa wanted to tell a story about her fucking dad's wedding. Ghouls and monsters. Look at the history books at the ugly hateful faces behind those firehoses and ask why you want to be seen exactly the same in the future.
  9. Oh, and also Six Flags, or camping trips, all that is cool too as you agreed earlier. Also this book is no good, it features married characters, too confusing for kids! Not to mention "As he returns with the dogs, he sees a heart carved on a tree with the names "Dan + Ann" " OH MY DEAR GOD HOW CAN THIS BE EXPLAINED TO CHILDREN????? The sick and truly truly sad part is that you would be totally fine with this book unless the above was "Dan + Dave" and then you would be pushing to ban it right along with the other banned books.
  10. We had wedding ceremonies on the playground in 1st grade. And so you do acknowledge that there is nothing at all odd about kids being exposed to the concept of marriage at that age. However, you have expressed opposition to them being exposed to the concept of "gay marriage" at this age. So your previously-stated position of "I don't think teachers should discuss relationships or marriage at all" is really a pretext so you don't have to admit the bigotry of you're totally fine with hetero marriage but not gay marriage.
  11. So your kids have never seen a movie or been read a book with a wedding or characters who are married?
  12. It's not different at all. If your kids were told "some boys like girls and some boys like boys and some boys like both and sometimes when people like each other a lot they get married" they would sit and then nod and say cool and go on doing what they are doing and now magically wouldn't be confused whenever they actually encounter same-sex relationships!
  13. So if you lived in an all-white neighborhood, your kids wouldn't know that racism is bad and that Blacks should be treated just like anyone else?
  14. Delicate issues like *checks notes* I attended my dad's wedding last weekend. JFC.
  15. But, I mean, saying "faggot" is inappropriate is really making a value judgment related to sexual orientation, isn't it? What if that kid's parents think calling gay people "faggots" is appropriate, really not up to the teacher to regulate those values, right? What if instead of calling another kid that, a kid says "I don't like that show, it's for faggots." OK for teacher to say that word is inappropriate or no? OK I'll give you a list I'd love your answers on: In the question about Lisa going to her dad's wedding, don't you think Lisa might be upset that the teacher engaged with all the other students but not hers? Maybe there was something wrong with what she said, or the teacher doesn't like Lisa? Putting those things on the table to torturously remove any reference to human relationships is so beyond absurd. Can a teacher read a book or show a movie with married characters or that depicts a wedding to 3rd graders? Can I get a list of other topics that should be literally forbidden for teachers to engage in discussions in addition to "human relationships" and "marriage"? Isn't this hysterical opposition to any discussion on any issue at all that a parent may not be 100% in agreement with exactly what home-school is for?
  16. So the teacher can engage on all topics except for a wedding for "reasons"? Can't ask her what the best part was, etc.? You are drawing these ridiculous artificial lines all to defend a reprehensible political action while pretending you are standing on the side of eradicating this nonexistent problem of deep sexuality discussions.
  17. If a teacher hears a kid call another kid a faggot should they step in and say that's wrong to do, or do they need to stay out of that arena? How about my previous example where a kid says they have two moms and another says "that's weird!" should the teacher briefly explain that's common and not weird or just tough tits there, can't enter the arena? Why'd you ignore my question about reading a book with married characters to 3rd graders, OK or not?
  18. I see so it's not weird if it goes: TIMMY: I went to Six Flags TEACHER: Cool Timmy, what did you ride? TIMMY: *answers* AUDREY: I went camping TEACHER: Great Audrey, what was the best part? AUDREY: *answers* LISA: I went to my dad's wedding TEACHER: *changes subject* Or would you prefer "Lisa, can you define the natal sex of your father's new spouse so I can decide if it's "really weird" if I engage here?" It's absolutely PREPOSTEROUS that anyone thinks this is the way it should work.
  19. SO you think it should be illegal to read a book or show a film to third graders that features a wedding or people described as married? If yes, then FUCKING LOL at you. If no, you are showing that you are being willfully stupid for the point of helping to assist your tribe kill a few more LGBTQ kids. Be proud.
  20. Never ending factory of people spouting disingenous bullshit. At 6, we were having marriage ceremonies on the playground. My daughter was a 3rd grader when she attended my second wedding, it's "really weird" if it got mentioned in class she was going to her dad's wedding? Of course it isn't fucking weird, you guys just love to play the ignorant hey what who me "hey why do we wanna talk to kids about sexuality amirite?" horseshit card. Guess the fuck what, it still wouldn't have been fucking weird if that marriage was to a man instead of a woman. The fact that you think it's weird is just truly mindfucked, let alone the idea of thinking it's not only weird but harmful, AND not only harmful but so harmful we must make it illegal.
  21. So you think it's less than 50% that in a class of 25 that any of the kids, kids' parents, kids' siblings, or the teacher are gay AND also that it never comes up such as "so what did everyone do this weekend?" "my uncle married his new husband" etc.? If so, your understanding of statistitcs is piss poor. Also see my above post to IV about the overall impact of laws like this on overall acceptance/mental health/etc.
  22. So you think 1 in 20 people being gay makes it very likely that none of the kids, parents, or teacher in a class of 25 kids are impacted. Do you math this hard all the time or only when trying to continue to ostracize portions of the population?
  23. But they don't say "this book is not allowed to be here" all the time. That's the difference. Not every library has every book, but a librarian in that school district is not allowed, or PROHIBITED, from having that book available. It's really not a hard concept at all.
  24. Yeah if someone said I had to live the rest of my life gay or vegetarian, I would have to go into the tank for quite a while.
  25. For one you are wrong that it’s almost zero. For two, you are ignoring kids who are being raised by LGBTQ families. For three, even if a kid doesn’t know they are gay by 3rd grade, when they do know, the environment will be much healthier for them if “gay people exist” is as normal as “redheads exist”, “black people exist”, “vegetarians exist” instead of something so apparently shameful that laws must be passed to avoid discussing it. For four, tons of examples have been given in this thread that you ignore. In first grade, we held marriage ceremonies on the playground. Kids are aware relationships exist. This shouldn’t be controversial. For five, if fighting over this is stupid the blame is wholly on DeSantis and Florida Republicans.
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