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25 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:
I get what you're saying but that position currently has 3.5 votes at SCOTUS
And if the Supreme Court voted 9-0 that people could own slaves, rape their wives, or that states could decide if Blacks could go to integrated schools today, I'd happily disagree just the same. When embarassing partisan hacks are appointed by exponentially the worst president in history, my deference only stretches so far.
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6 minutes ago, JBJ said:
Point 1: There's a process for this and it's not judicial. In the example you give I assume legislatures have amended laws to meet the changing attitudes of society.
Point 2: The basic argument from Roe is that abortion is a unenumermated right. Unenumerated rights are those not specifically named in the constitution but are so ingrained in history and culture that they would not have even been thought of to be made explicit. The right to freely travel within the nation is a common example. The presumption of innocence is another.
Both are using ECL to support their claims that this was or was not an unenumerated right. By showing what is illegal or not under ECL. ECL is not an atypical battleground for these discussions because that's where the vast majority of our law comes from.
Basically, it was/wasn't legal throughout our full legal history, so it can/can't be a fundamental right. If times have changed, that's evidence that Roe is wrong and Alito is right.
Point 1 - LOL no they haven't.
Point 2 - Wrong. Roe specifically applies the 14th Amendment of the Constitution in protecting fundamental privacy rights, as do a litany of other cases. It can be fundamental without having been enumerated in the original text of the Constitution. They don't have to have been ingrained in history, since, ya know, history is chock full of fucking over every minority at every opportunity possible.
Do you think slavery should be addressed by the state legislatures? Segregation? Interracial marriage? Access to contraception? Legality of gay sex or sodomy? Ability to rape your wife? Ability to beat your wife?
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19 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:
You're basically making Alito's point, which is that the Constitution does not protect these "reproductive rights," so the legislature should deal with them. The legislature has dealt with your other examples, on issues of employment, access to credit, spousal rape and abuse, etc. Why can it not deal with abortion as well, since there's no constitutionally-protected right to have one?
Strongly disagree. I believe that Griswold, Lawrence, Roe, Casey, etc., were correctly decided based on the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment. My point is that the opinion of jagoffs in mid-1700s England is irrelevant to these discussions today.
Absolutely cannot leave people's core rights in life, such as the right to marry, travel, family plan, have sex, etc., up to the whims of partisan legislatures, even before the cascading waterfall of bullshit voter suppression and gerrymandering.
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49 minutes ago, JBJ said:
That's literally the equivalent of calling something a high misdemeanor. These are legal terms not personal opinions.
Not gonna review the entire treatise to see if this was a true, clear-minded legal statement completely untinged with Hale's opinion. Let's stipulate that you are correct. Even with that, two GIANT differences:
1) One is written in 1973 and the other in 2022. It's a half-century later, which has drastically shifted the role of women in society. 1973 is not far removed from women are there for men as property mindset that many had in the 1950s etc. The sexual revolution and idea of career women was taking off. Let's take opinion of spousal rape in 1973 and compare it to 2022 for example.
2) Roe is using Hale's piece as a counter-example: "Even in repressive times, this was not illegal." Alito's opinion is using what was illegal in the 1700s to argue what should be illegal today. Who gives one flying fuck what a society that said a man could beat and rape his wife thinks about women's reproductive freedom in 2022?? It's abhorrent.
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Healthcare. Romneycare was enacted in 2006.
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1 minute ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:
Lulz at this. Remember folks: this is a reasoned approach to the legal analysis of the right at issue. Also, this approach is completely wrong for any other right.
THIS opinion is only about abortion. The NEXT one will only be about contraception, or gay marriage, or anti-sodomy laws, or striking the right to vote from anyone who registrered as a Dem for being an anti-American commie.
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2 minutes ago, JBJ said:
You invented the claim, you expound. You could even read the leaked draft.
"Two treatises by Sir Matthew Hale likewise described abortion of a quick child who died in the womb as a 'great crime' and a 'great misprision.."
This is from the opinion. This is sharing Hale's OPINION about abortion. Ctrl+F "Hale" in Roe opinion finds one citation that says "abortion of a pre-quickened child was not an indictable offense." This is sharing a FACT about previous abortion law.
Again, expound.
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2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:What positions have the GOP moved right on since you were in the GOP in 2008?
Immigration
Police brutality
Vaccinations
Self over society
Party over country
Conspiracy theories
Voter suppression
Book burning and banning
Just for a few, not to mention devolving into an insane cult of personality around Trump. I voted GOP in 1996, 2000, 2004 and libertarian in 2012 and 2016 and Dem in 2008 and 2020.
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4 minutes ago, JBJ said:
Wrong.
Feel free to expound.
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15 minutes ago, JBJ said:
Roe does also. Most substantive due process cases will cite Hale, Coke, Blackstone, etc al. Because ECL is where historical support for various unenumerated rights come from.
Massively disingenuous. Roe's only citation to Hale is to show that abortion of a pre-quickened child was not indictable. This horseshit uses Hale's words and opinions of abortion. First is factual. Second is relying on medieval opinions to support the squelching of constitutional protections.
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1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:The GOP has not moved its position on abortion. It's always been against Roe.
Sure, except where the Supreme Court with 8 justices appointed by GOP presidents issued its opinion in PP v. Casey. And where GOP senators harrumphed about the idea that these vacuous cunt appointees would overturn it.
Just absolutely reprehensible and sub-human that in the year 2022 we are literally citing jurists who executed "witches" and opined that a woman's pussy was her husband's property for input on women's rights today. Fuck everyone in the face who even tries to justify that horseshit. Un-American cave-dwelling scum.
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6 minutes ago, JFKFC said:
Is slavery a personal choice? No, it is completely wrong. Some things are completely wrong. Killing kids because of convenience is 100% wrong. I am not saying that for a ridiculous reason having to do with souls or angels or gods or jesus or any other fairy tale nonsense. No woman has the right to kill a healthy child because it is inconvenient.
Now, as I said, if there is a legitimate medical reason to terminate a pregnancy, that is a decision for a medical professional. That is not something to be legislated.
A clump of cells the size of a sunflower seed is not "a healthy child." Just overwhelmingly absurd framing. And no person has a right to use another person's body for its survival, right? Where exactly is that found in the constitution? I may need a kidney transplant later in life, can I just decide to take someone else's kidney to support me staying alive? No? Oh I see.
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With the revamp of MLife, Gold has waived resort fees. I matched my Caesars Diamond (which I matched from Wyndham Diamond, which I got for free by opening a Wyndham Business Card) to MLife Gold.
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17 minutes ago, Captainant said:
Just like interracial marriage too, right sack?
and slavery, and who can have sex with who, and who can vote, and if you can travel freely from state to state, and.....
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The whole episode is pretty bad for the Court. The leak is embarrassing. But the decision is catastrophic.
You've got a 5-4 decision to get rid of a something that has been settled as a constitutional right for 50 years, overturning a decision that at least three of them said in their confirmation hearings within the last five years was "settled law." Each of those five justices were appointed by a president who lost the popular vote. And now they have lifetime appointments.
These are people who have no electoral legitimacy, no democratic legitimacy, and now no intellectual legitimacy. They are political hacks with lifetime tenure.
And you know what that makes them? Tyrants.
All so true and yet so many are fine with it as long as the wimmin and queers know their place.-
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Yeah you dumb dumbs the poor 16 year old Mississippi girl impregnated by her uncle in their double wide can just go to Minnesota or Massachusetts for her abortion, a-duh!
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Hoping for the usual "I didn't get my way so lets violently riot" response from the emo left.
For one, no all these laws don’t start at 15 weeks. Texas’ basically starts at 2 weeks.
And just fucking Lololllll at the lack of self awareness of still pinning the above on the emo left after Jan 6. The entire raison d’etre of the right is crying over an election they lost like Aggy saying they never lose they just run out of time.-
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11 minutes ago, Armybrat said:
Will they start charging that damned resort fee then?
Cosmo already has a $45/night resort fee.
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no, unless you're into chubby 50-60 year olds
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On 4/30/2022 at 9:01 AM, Bender Bending Rodriguez said:
It’s notable that neither of the two best King film adaptations are of the horror genre and one of them was a short story: Stand By Me and Shawshank.
Pedantry alert: Both Shawshank and Stand by Me were novellas, not short stories, and in the same collection: Different Seasons. Pretty amazing for a couple of the GOAT movies to come from one collection. Apt Pupil is in that collection and is an incredible story, but the movie is just adequate.
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Yeah, we really enjoyed this. Super fun.
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Yeah for sure. The “I’m sure you’re good” is crazy. 99 and 77 seem more likely than K9 or K7 or KQ plus he is gonna have missed flush draw/combo draws.
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Not listed as an MLife offer yet. If it was, I’d definitely look to swap my Park MGM reservation in July.
Yeah I have 3 nights in a Vdara Fountain View that I would prob slide over to Cosmo if poss.-
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cracka-ass crackers?
Two decades and I still legit can never hear or say crackers without at least thinking cracka-ass crackers.-
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So blowjobs IYO are specifically constitutionally protected? Including man on man? And that was contemplated when the Constitution was ratified or what?