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  1. 5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    I’m not certain that’s any better than the stupid law.  Seems like you’d be less protected from a rogue upset parent, and some teachers are going to be making bank off the lawsuits (at taxpayer expense).

    Exactly 100% backwards. How, exactly, are teachers going to make bank off the lawsuits?  Further, how exactly is it at taxpayer expense. Show your work. PRO TIP: Putting in a law that someone can be sued for doing something generally increases lawsuits based on that something. PRO TIP 2; Saying you can't do A, B, C, D, E, or F when the huge majority thinks only E and F are the problem results in people not doing A, B, or C which can be very harmful and results in moron lawsuits when A, B, or C is done. 

    Even you admit it's government overreach, yet you stand her defending it as reasonable at the same time. 

  2. Just now, Sawbonz said:

    Studies show that black children begin associating their skin pigmentation with inferiority in pre-k. Those feelings affect their confidence and mental well-being the rest of their lives. Imagine how much worse it is for a trans child

    Doesn't care, prefers dead kids over validation of behaviors or mindsets he doesn't understand or like. 

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  3. 3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    Are you sure? You want to read it again (I didn’t say write down their natal sex)?  I said write down natal sex on a note.  This is going to be very difficult is you can’t read words. 

    So for the record your position is that when you said "Write down natal sex on a note and send them home to their parents." rather than meaning "write the child's natal sex down on a note for them and send them home" you actually meant just hand a kindergartener a piece of paper with two words on it, one of which is sex, and expect that it will resolve it.  OK coolio. 

    Just now, fattyflattie said:

    I’m certain his K teacher, you know the ones that teach them different colors and shapes, will prevent that. K suicide rate on the rise? 

    Applies through at least 3rd grade, then whatever the ignorant dregs of society deem age-appropriate above that. But, since you asked, you complete ghoul, absolutely yes it has doubled in the last decade. https://www.todaysparent.com/kids/kids-health/why-is-suicidal-behaviour-increasing-among-elementary-school-children/

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

    what if that note said "your son claims he is gay" and that note gets that kid's ass kicked at home? just because your scenario is YOUR preference doesn't mean it is for everyone else.

    Or the kid is beaten and told he will go to hell and then kills himself? OH WELP SORRY HAVE TO APPEASE BACKWATER FUCKS WHO REFUSE ADVANCES IN MODERN MEDICINE

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  5. Just now, fattyflattie said:

    In cases where a student’s “biological sex” is disputed, the law authorizes schools to require health examinations or documentation from the student’s personal health care provider.


    I know, that whole Sooner reading deal, but come on man. Your claim was disputed in the first paragraph of your own link. 

    Jesus you are dumber than fuck. It authorizes "health examinations by the school" or "documentation from the personal health care provider".  YOU are the one who cannot read, stop fucking projecting your stupid fucking shit. From the fucking same article, mouthbreather: The bill, which is now headed to the Senate for consideration is similar to dozens of laws being considered across the country restricting the rights of transgender students, but it goes even further by giving schools the power to conduct genital examinations.

  6. 5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    Nope. I’d be fine with just firing them. But I don’t think it’s a big ask for teachers to place those talks back on the parents for 4-7 yos. 

    So you advocate firing a teacher for responding to a question with the current correct medical guidance as issued by the AMA.  Fucking lol. 

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  7. 4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

    Now that is fucking creepy

    https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/548534-floridas-new-ban-on-transgender-students-in-sports-would/

    Link since I'm sure the Johnny's and IV's of the world will be insisting that it isn't true, but yes Florida Republicans voted to allow school officials to inspect kids' genitals. Pretty sick, huh flattie?  Your fucking team is the one that does this shit and just constantly projects. 

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  8. 21 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    That’s where your mind goes, and you wonder why there’s some accusations?  Come on sooner, get it together.  A teacher of 4-7 yo should easily be able to dodge that question, and let the parents explain should they feel it’s appropriate. 
     

    Lol. Pretty sure the bad feelies stem from those that insist their pronouns are being misused. 
     

     

    You are the one that insisted the teacher write down natal sex, which is determined by inspecting genitalia. Stop the fucking deflecting. And in fact conservatives did push a bill that would require genital inspection of children before they could participate in sports.

    Yeah, people being intentionally disrespected usually feel bad, especially when it's done by dipshits who think they know better than doctors. 

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  9. 2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    Cool. Write down natal sex on a note and send them home to their parents. Problem solved. 

    And so you would propose the teacher inspect the child's genitals to determine natal sex?

    Also the medical community largely agrees that sex <> gender, so you want everyone to oppose predominant medical information because it gives you bad feelies?

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  10. 11 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

    Easy. 
     

    We can start with how one would explain that doctors take a “guess” at your biology when you are born, and the other can explain how science actually works. 

    hope this helps: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/232363

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/environmentalaccounts/articles/whatisthedifferencebetweensexandgender/2019-02-21#:~:text=8.-,Summary,woman%2C or another gender identity.

  11. Vibes and Johnny,

    No more deflecting, no more bullshit. I want answers directly from each of you on whether these examples are OK or not OK. Let's say in a 3rd grade classroom. 

    1) "Hey teacher, why does Sally have two mommies?" " Well, Billy, some girls like boys, some girls like girls, and some like both. No matter what, they can still get married and have kids."

    2) "Hey teacher, I really feel like I like girls even though I'm supposed to like boys. Is something wrong with me?" "No Jennifer, it's common for people to have feelings like that, sometimes just for a little bit, sometimes for their whole life."

    3) Alright kids, we are gonna read Book X (that happens to have a relationship between same sex characters, without any explicit sex). 

     

    No horseshit about grooming or Libs on Tik Tok or anything. Simply yes or no (with reasons if desired).  

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  12. 3 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

    If there is one truism on this site, it’s that anytime someone starts a statement with so… they are about to hallucinate and falsely attribute some argument to a person. 
     

    Abbott’s recent actions have been flash and pop to get attention, but the immigration and border issues are quite real. Something tells me a poster with the Ukraine flag as their avi like pyro has almost no personal knowledge of that. And I thought the damage from Abbott’s shenanigans was $200M. It’s substantial but you’re bumping it by 20x. 

    Google, 1 second later: https://www.dallasnews.com/business/economy/2022/04/20/economist-says-gov-abbotts-border-inspections-lost-texas-42-billion-and-36000-jobs/

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  13. 3 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

     

    Being against a shitty ass law, written in haste without due consideration of the consequences, that outlaws something that isn't really happening anyway in any significant numbers, does not mean you support what the law bans.

     

    Immaculate Vibes has repeatedly suggested that anyone who is against this is law is a pedophile. If he did that to my face, he would get punched.

     

    Similar to the TX abortion ban.  That is such a terribly-drafted law that violates every concept of due process, regardless of your feelings on abortion. I would oppose the bill if it replaced "abortion" with "child molestation" because it is a ridiculous law that creates massive legal problems, and no one who actually believes in what this country stands for would support "any random person who wasn't impacted in any way whatsover can sue someone wherever they want and if they don't file an answer, get a judgment for thousands of dollars."  But I guess Republicans like child molestation more than abortion, because that's what they tell me when they allow me to sue a stranger for driving someone to an abortion clinic but not for molesting kids. 

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  14. 1 minute ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

    Say hi to the monkeys. 
     

    You have no idea what you’re talking about. 

    So Greg Abbott costing the Texas economy and taxpayers 4 billion dollars for a one week stunt of detaining trucks at the border wasn't "flash and pop" and was instead good governance based on logic and common sense solutions and not masturbating publicly for the feeble-minded?  Fuck outta here. 

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  15. 22 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

    There’s a few idiots for sure that support the things you’re saying. 
     

    The condemnation of the Florida bill is almost unanimous on the left. One guy that’s running for governor in New York said he didn’t think there was anything wrong with it. That’s all I’m aware of. I’ve also yet to see a left poster on this thread act like this is anything other than a travesty. Maybe I’ve missed it. Or maybe they’re just not posting their opinions. Same thing goes for weirdo Libs of TikTok. Oh they’re just reading some fun books to Kindergartners. Like Sparkle Boy. 

    Are you saying there are "a few idiots for sure" that support things like vaccine misinformation, the Big Lie, etc.?  That's part and parcel of the Republicans today and if you are Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney you literally get exiled for not going along. 

    As for the rest, Serak explained exactly the issue. For example, the Jen Psaki clip linked above is completely harmless. But the scam that works so well on the ignorant masses on one side is to pair that clip with some video from LoTT, and act like Psaki is endorsing the video, which is a blatant fucking lie. 

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  16. Precisely, as well as placing school districts and teachers at risk of liability/termination/etc., at the whims of any random dildo who wants to push back on things like the things listed under OBV OK in my earlier post. The idiotic way it was written makes tons of perfectly fine conduct technically illegal, and trusting hateful morons to not abuse that fact is not gonna cut it. 

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  17. 22 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

    No. txSooner was imagining a world where a lefty had a site that compiled cringe videos that would put Rs in a bad light. That could certainly be spun up.
     

    The difference is if that were to happen prominent people on the right would disavow that content. We currently have literally every public figure on the left and every poster here supporting the people on those videos. That’s what you’re missing. 

    Prominent people on the right are currently supporting anti-vaccine disinformation and supporting false claims that the 2020 election was stolen, at significant harm to our fucking democracy, so spare me that they would oppose anything. Trump "both sides have good people" when one was fucking white supremacists for one easy-ass example. And again you just fucking LIE AND FUCKING LIE about what public figures on the left and posters here support.  STOP FUCKING LYING.  

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  18. 1 minute ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

    Except imagine a world where whenever DeSantis or Abbott is asked about it, they say “hell yeah I like the N word!” Or “I support priests that molest kids. In fact we need more contact between molesting priests and our children.”

    You mean like when DeSantis said it should be illegal to tell a kindergartener they can be anything they want to be? Or where DeSantis spreads vaccine misinformation resulting in Floridians deaths? Or when Trump calls Mexicans criminals and rapists?  And by definition, all of the establishment peopel that cover for the church and support their tax-exempt status are absolutely supporting the massive tradition of grooming and sexual abuse that is rampant there.  

    Democrats are not advocating that children be "groomed" into being gay, largely because they understand that's not a fucking thing. Democrats are not advocating for sexual education or instruction to K-3 kids. This is an insane logical fallacy where a group of hateful mouthbreathers has established in their feeble brains a truth that "Discussing that gay people exist or supporting tolerance for gay people or reading a book with a gay person in it is sexual education.  Democrats support those things. Thus, Democrats suport sexual education to K-3 kids."  It's an embarassing, small-minded, ignorant lie screaming into the howling wind of history, just like those who stood up against interracial marriage, etc., and are now on the shitheap of history.  

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  19. 3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

    Propaganda by omission is an extremely successful technique, especially when you have an audience that isn't great at critical thinking.

    What libsoftiktok is doing is cherrypicking the most upsetting videos, posting them without context, and centralizing that outrage to be broadcast by fox and OANN and the qanon internet. It's an outrage engine that's been developed over several accounts, by a person who is not trustworthy. She's been one of the originators of the "gays are groomers" axiom that conservatives and fundagellicals have been pushing. It's a distorted and dishonest representation of reality.

    Her actions are leading to school officials receiving death threats, parents and children literally being run out of town, and is distorting the local discourse to a point where teachers are getting threatening emails from random people saying they'll "kill all the marxists" because of a "transgender agenda".

     

    The amplification of something tiny into a wedge issue that eats all the oxygen for other issues is absolutely disinformation and propaganda. It is not an honest depiction of reality. It is manufactured and engineered to get your hate going at maximum chooch so that you don't stop to consider if you're mad about something that actually exists.

    Exactly. It would be the same as if I started a "Trumpkins of TikTok" account and just had videos of backwater rednecks dropping the N word (and hey if some of those are actors playing it up, so what, it's representative amirite???).  Or "Evangelicals of TikTok" and it's just videos of priests getting sentenced for molestation (though those are tough to find, since the church so readily and frequently covers it up, but I bet we can make it work.)

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  20. So the right wing thinks that K-3 is just too young to be indoctrinated into the idea that gay people exist and being exposed to those ideas "grooms" kids to be gay. Why no focus on indoctrination into something that is actually, ya know, a fucking decision instead of the way you were born?  Shouldn't there be a "don't say God" bill?  After all, why should kids moldable minds be exposed to these concepts?  No more Christmas parties or Easter events, no books allowed that say God or Jesus or feature pastors or priests (speaking of grooming). Why is it OK to plant seeds in a kindergartener's head about religion, which is a choice, and not sexuality, which is not?

    Currently in Florida, a kindergarten teacher can legally describe explicitly the murders of the Holocaust and state that the actions were justified because Jews are less than human, but not "Sally has two moms because sometimes girls like other girls." Why exactly are there all these bills to stop discussion of CRT and gender, but none aimed at stopping endorsements of white supremacy, Nazism, or advocacy of the Big Lie that the election was stolen?

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