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  1. 23 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    The number of teams that can claim a more recent title is 7.  Bama, FSU, tosu, Clemson, auburn, Florida, LSU. 

    Though to be fair, Florida and LSU feel like a long time ago. 

    Yes, and Fla and LSU have underachieved recently, and it has shown up in their recruiting. 

  2. 19 minutes ago, ousux said:

    But it really don't make a shit, look at our #3 class last year after nearly a decade of mediocrity, and aggy this year likely pulling in a top 5 class in spite of nobody alive (or with their full memory still intact) with first hand knowledge their last natty, and that is the only somewhat real thing they can hang their hat on.

    But yeah, start winning and things will get even easier on the recruiting trail.

    Yah, last year's Herman and this year's Fisher, coming in guns blazing in their first full recruiting cycles. Selling their hope and change. Whether they were good in 2005 didn't matter last year or this year, because neither program has been in the national conversation for quite a a while now when it comes to contending and winning. Advantage Aggy has is actually putting a decent amount of butts in the NFL in the early rounds, & SECSEC. A big advantage IMO, that only got bigger with Jimbruh being able to show his recent record (Hey let's just ignore last year, Kids). Makes winning all that more important, and the wins should be a bit easier to come by in the Big12 vs. SEC.

     

     

  3. 23 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

    I am just saying it ignores the exact same situation that had happened prior to start the 2000s. UT hadn't won a MNC in 30 odd years.

    Maybe not quite the exact same as Mackovic had some success on field unlike Strong/end of tenure FUPM but still it had been a long time since UT was relevant.

    I gotcha. I just don't think it resonates with kids these days to say, "We did win the National Championship in two thousand and fi.... wow has it really been 13 years? Yah, but anyway, we did do that, so you're coming to a school with tradition.", when there's nothing else to couple it with besides "Have some faith in us." It's gunna be easier to talk about 2005 etc... when you're winning games. They just gotta win now. Please God. 

  4. 35 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

    The whole "kids weren't born during the last championship run" storyline is played out. How is that any different than the 2000's run? Texas hadn't done much of anything in the 80's & 90's at all and yet somehow strung together a really good run of football with kids that weren't born at the last championship and had lived through some poor UT teams.

    Herman needs to have at least 8 wins this year and to show some material progress. If the O still absolutely sucks balls and if he and the staff sleepwalk on teams they feel they should beat (Maryland/Tech etc) then recruiting will have the wheels come off on the offensive side of the ball.

    It's not played out when you're trying to convince kids to come to Texas, to the Big 12, to a program that's not been very good for quite some time, who isn't going to allow you to take the field in 27 different sparkly uniform combinations over the extent of your career. 

     

    But like you said, there was the 2000s run. It was good recruiting + winning. That's the same thing that has to happen here now. Then maybe you add 2005 etc... to the mix. 

  5. 11 hours ago, satyanash said:

    It's not 'dumb', it allows you to properly evaluate a coach's ability to recruit.

    No one would care if Mehringer or Giles were missing like this on OOS guys. OOS isn't our bread-and-butter, the state of Texas is. We expect our hit rate to be lower on OOS guys, that's just how it is. But when you're missing on in-state guys at this rate, especially guys who live so close to Austin, that's an indicator that something is wrong. If Mehringer and Giles were landing the top in-state guys they're expected to land, or at least half of them, we wouldn't care if they missed on 95% on the OOS guys.

    I think if Texas hadn't been a shit-show for the past seven years, these two average/sub-par/whateveryouwanttoratethem recruiters may actually be landing a satisfactory amount of in-state studs.

     

    Part of it's on them, part of it's on not winning and putting as many asses in the NFL early and often enough as we used to.

     

    (Not that I'm opposed to necessary changes)

  6. 2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

    Not that I disagree with any of this but the "aggy is my dream school" guy they're discussing was Ossai, right?

    In the first reply, from the Kim-Anderson Perkins Smith Django De Craig Biggio lady. I took it as her saying that like Ossai, Shep and Whit's dream school was A&M. Maybe I misinterpreted. If so, let's pretend I didn't.

  7. 10 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

    You don’t think CJ, Burt, LJH, etc. are talented? Are you not in agreement our WRs regressed last year? If so, that has to fall on the coaches, no?

    Yes I think they're talented. I don't think our OL was. I don't think that helped the running game. I don't think not having any TEs helps either with what Herman wants to do with the TEs in his offense. I don't think the QBing helped. I'm sure coaching and game planning has something to do with it also, but coaches can make those mistakes when the talent gives room for it (and make fewer mistakes when the talent provides). But with what the staff had to work with OVERALL (you're mentioning one position group), one year isn't a big sample size.

     

    But, you don't agree with me. I don't agree with you, and that's all good.

     

    Back to recruiting or something.

  8. 2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

    We went through this during the charlie years...you can reasonably judge coaches’ abilities with players they didn’t recruit. 

     

    2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

    We went through this during the charlie years...you can reasonably judge coaches’ abilities with players they didn’t recruit. 

    Absolutely, and I didn't find the talent that Charlie started off working with on offense, and the talent he LEFT on offense to be much to work with at all, so I'm not going to hold that first year against Herman right now. That's my judgment.

  9. 7 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

    It's fine that you are giving the offense the benefit of the doubt, but recruits aren't required to, especially not when your OC is currently Tim Beck and your WR coach is Mehringer. Those guys don't have the resumes. 

    I'm just talking about the direct comparison between the two universities' abilities to put players in the NFL, and that Texas hasn't had a problem there until recently in its existence, and that Herman hasn't had a hand in that, at least yet. I've said there are truths in it. I've said I understand a recruit buying into that knock against Texas. You're not telling me anything new that I don't understand.

  10. 5 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

    That doesn't really hold water. Orlando coached up Charlies guys on the other side of the ball and they were a bigger train wreck than the offense under his regime outside of OLine.

    That defense was one of the more talented units in the conference.

     


    The offense, outside of a couple of receivers was not a very talented bunch at all. Had basically zero tight ends, olinemen who shouldn't have been playing, a true frosh QB who made some boneheaded mistakes. No, I will not accept that Herman had the equivalent talent to work with on offense that Orlando did on defense. It wasn't close.

     

    I'm not putting this first year of offensive suckage on Herman. This year is when I start to worry if it's looking similar.

  11. 14 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

    There is nothing remotely illogical about what he is saying. Urban Meyer, despite His team culture issues has been putting players in the league. Especially on offense. Meanwhile our offense has been a god damn tire fire for 4 straight years. 

    If you weee truly being objective there is nothing you can really argue about with what he says. 

    The illogical part would be that Herman has been here for one season, and that he helped put those kids in the NFL at OSU (hint: the part I bolded in the quote).

     

    Edited to add: I'm not saying there's not truth in it. It all makes sense, especially on the surface. OSU has put the butts in the NFL, early rounds. Texas has not.

     

    But that stretch of Charlie + Mack has nothing to do with Herman right now. That's what he's trying to fix. Kids like Wilson would help him fix that.

  12. 10 hours ago, BigVegasHorn26 said:

    I don't think anyone is blaming the kid for picking the team with more recent success.  The issue is with taking an unnecessary shot at UT in doing so - particularly when a portion of OSU's recent success can be attributed to the coach now at UT.   It kind of made him look like a bitch - which he may or may not be.  But now we're left wondering.  

    Kid is what, 17? Remember the dumb shit you were convinced of at 17, or hell, 27 (I don't know how old you are but that applies to me, at least). I'm not expecting a 17 year old to think very logically here when he was recruited by 50 schools and 49 of them told him the same damn thing that OSU did. Hear it enough you believe it without thinking that much about it, especially at that age.

  13. 1 minute ago, victory88 said:

    I mean, he's not wrong.  We have not developed our players the way we should have on offense atleast.  But that is going to change.  This year we may have 2 WRs drafted as Jrs in the NFL.  We need 1 winning season and this shit will get fixed.  8 years of losing will do that.

    I think it's a mix of not properly developing players and choosing the wrong players, no matter how many stars that player had. AND NOT HAVING DANG QBS

  14. 4 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

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    These people.

     

    First I'll address Whittington. Being from his hometown, not knowing him personally as I've been gone for 15+ years, but knowing some of his family and others: A&M was not his dream school. I think he liked Sumlin and that whole vibe more than A&M. I know his bro went to SMU, but really wanted to go to Texas (offer never came, + SMU is where their uncle went and set some school records as RB. Won SB with Raiders). From what I know, once Whittington came of age to really pay attention, he liked the Horns. So no, A&M wasn't "a dream". As a matter of fact, his commitment video hints to him always wanting to be a Longhorn.

     

    #2. As for people moving to Odessa Permian: Permian had it's shadier sides, but people were moving out there for the Oil Field. And yes, if you're moving out to West TX to be closer to your job, and you have a kid who looks like he can be a stud football player, you're probably gunna choose the town/side of town with the better football team. + the local kids were really just that good back then. It happens.

     

    Assgs are funny.

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  15. 10 hours ago, Mano Cornuda said:

    "In the end, I’ve watched a lot of people go to Texas with a ton of ability and maybe not achieve what I thought they could. I didn’t want to be one of those guys.”

    This is something that Herman and his staff have had to acknowledge with these kids, because they know it's what they're being told by the other schools. It's something I and many of you have accepted also. It holds its truths, but it's a different regime. That's not a reflection of Herman and his staff, but at the same time, they really have no sample-size in comparison, so you understand a kid wanting to go somewhere where the sample size is big and shows favorable.

     

    What Herman and Co have to do is sell these kids on THEMSELVES being the reason they'll be successful, not Urban.. Saban.. David Shaw....(okay maybe David Shaw can get them a little more pro-ready), not Herman himself.  IF they're really that damn good, they'll find their way to success, and "achieve what you think they could" just playing within the system the coaches run.

     

     

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