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I'd have LeBron and Kawhi by themselves, and Giannis and Harden below right now. The latter have simply not shown enough in the playoffs yet.

I thought there was almost a zero percent chance Giannis would leave Milwaukee until this game.

I can debate the technical merits of either foul both ways, but personally I don't think I would call either one late in the game if I was a ref.

The real practical benefit of their decision isn't really towards the general public but more specifically certain power players (obvious example being NBA owners) that can be leaned on with leverage/pressure to do specific things that could have future impact in a positive way. What that actually translates to down the road is an unknown, but even opening up some arenas for voting isn't nothing either.

I don't know, I think all advanced stats have some flaws, but sometimes you can glean a lot from the totality of the data and your own admittedly subjective eye tests. There is also the context of this particular season and other variables such as rosters, coaching, injuries, and such, but you try and do what you can with a reasonable sample size. I mean, with the four players mentioned this season: VORP: Jokic (#5), Butler (#9), Tatum (#11), Embiid (Not in Top 20) PER: Embiid (#7), Jokic (#10), Butler (#12), Tatum (Not in Top 20) Offensive Rating: Butler (#13), none of the other three are in Top 20 Defensive Rating: Embiid (#11), Tatum (#18), other two not Top 20 BPM: Jokic (#7), Butler (#9), Embiid (#11), Tatum (#16) W/S per 48: Butler (#9), Jokic (#15), Embiid (#19), Tatum out of Top 20 I don't think anyone can easily and definitely say that Player A is clearly better than Player B but that's just me. My personal opinion is that Butler is and has always been (after some years in the league) a Tier 2 star player, but is not quite the same defensive player, at least recently. Embiid has a very high ceiling, but his conditioning and health are just big red flags. I'd personally right now take Tatum over the other players even if they were all the same age based on skill set/ceiling. This is admittedly a subjective eye test thing in which I see flashes of things from him that I think can translate to a higher potential over time. I have this same eye test at times (so it can be flawed) with superstar players too. For example, I have no issue with arguing Kawhi is the best player in the world possibly right now, but I've never once in my life seen him play and thought that he could ever equal LeBron James in his prime. A few times, I have seen Durant play at a very high level and I think if only he had the court vision (this helps both on defense and with passing) to match his other skill sets...maybe he could be a Top 10 all-time no doubter type. (I still think he has a shot)

I am with you on this one. I wouldn't think twice about those two, and Embiid would make me pause because of both health and mental fortitude/toughness reasons. I just don't think he is taking his diet/health/conditioning as seriously as a star player needs to to thrive in this league. His ceiling is still potentially really high, but yeah...

BadAggie 3:50p, 6/27/20 Since the team apparently wants to get rid of traditions at A&M how about ending the football team's tradition of losing games that matter? Be the change. I enjoyed this post at least...

I know this might not be the most pressing news right now with everything else happening, but I think this is a fairly significant holding on its own and also in terms of who wrote the opinion. Probably not a shock to some legal scholars, but it's certainly newsworthy in most normal news cycles I would think. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/17-1618_hfci.pdf

I hear it's looking good but you never know with kids. A person I know pretty well that seemed really connected really swore by the running back Noah Cain and he's at Penn State. I'm still amazed at some of the talent we have gotten recently with absolutely no results to show for it. However, our prior recent talents were quite different by position/skill set, etc.

Hope all are safe out there. Off the top of my head, I hope I don't miss anyone...I could argue the merits of each player within a tier pretty well and have an easy respecting anyone making good arguments for these players, but might have a hard time supporting a Tier 2 all-timer to be the GOAT, etc. Super Tier 1: (1-4) MJ, LeBron, Kareem, Magic Super Tier 2: (5-9) Bird, Duncan, Wilt, Russell, Hakeem Super Tier 3: (10ish) Shaq, Kobe, Oscar

Lol what a gambler's swing.

It pleases me that BYU has won a national title more recently than A&M's claimed national titles.

Ingram not off the hook.

A blitz on 3rd and 17?????????? WTF WTF

They are going to score anyway with time in the pocket, may as well try and force something.

Enjoy your troglodyte future (and present). Lol. At least you lose in life no matter what, so sweet.

Oh yes a successful and educated person would come to this board and troll. Of course.

Burrow is making good throws, he's just a better QB today.

The entire tone changed after the drop -- just a rough drop.

Cosmi what blocking! Nice!

LSU O line is not imposing its will so I like our chances so far.

This is sad. I think this isn't worth a watch at this point.

Hawaii has Oregon State there in two weeks and Washington on the road after, what a Pac-12 heavy start.

Awesome call. Nice.

Nice kick, saved the great coach...