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  1. Yep. My mom is with the Republicans on all the topics that she gets in her inbox from FWD FWD FWD, which is a mixture of fearporn and bullshit, but otherwise she is on the side of the Dems. Yet, she has voted reliably Republican her whole life except for the time that she couldn't vote for Clayton Williams and voted for Richards instead. It doesn't matter though, because those FWD FWD FWD's and Rush Limbaugh conditioned her to believe that the Dems are child molesting devil worshippers, and she didn't have the critical thinking skills to see past the bullshit. And when I try to talk to her about it, she'd rather die than have the conversation. She doesn't want to have her mind changed. She believes what she believes and she doesn't want anyone coming in and making her believe any differently.
  2. When you consider that the goal isn't to win the argument, but just to delay it so consequences can be avoided, I don't know why we are talking about the fact he's going to lose. Yeah, of course he is, so what?
  3. @fattyflattie FYI, I'm going to use the word gay here because it's easier to type, but when I say gay I'm talking about the whole spectrum, Lesbians, Gays, Transgenders, etc. As requested: 1. Florida Legislature votes on a bill that would make it so that teachers can't talk about their spouses (if their spouse is of the same sex) to their students, nor have pictures of those spouses on their desk, nor can they be a safe space for their gay students, nor can they try to create a space in their classroom that is safe for gay students, nor can they talk about being gay. The Florida Leg and DeSantis claimed this was scare tactics and that it was just about formal instruction not being allowed to talk about gay people to elementary school children. But now it has passed, and school districts are trying to adhere to the law and these are exactly what the school districts are saying are no longer ok. And DeSantis' spokesperson called all people against this bill "groomers," claiming that all of us who rightly called this out for the bigoted nastiness it is as people who are trying to turn kids gay so we can molest them. https://www.eqfl.org/statement-equality-florida-condemns-anti-lgbtq-remarks-desantis-spokesperson 2. Here's Boebert calling "the left" groomers because a pre-school in North Carolina used rainbox colored flash cards 3. Boebert again, talking about the Equality Act, which would make it illegal to fire people because of their sexuality says, So not only is she against gays having equal rights, but won't even acknowledge that concept of transgenderism. 4. Marjorie Taylor Greene - I'm gonna be honest, too many options to pick from. Here's a syllabus from GLAAD: https://www.glaad.org/gap/marjorie-taylor-greene 5. Back to DeSantis — Vetoed all funding for LGBTQ programs from the $101 billion state budget, including $150,000 for mental health programming to support survivors of the Pulse Massacre and $750,000 to house homeless LGBTQ children, as well as funds for Orlando's LGBTQ Community Center. The veto came during LGBTQ Pride Month and just days before the fifth anniversary of the 2016 mass shooting at the Pulse nightclub, one of the worst in United States history which targeted Central Florida’s LGBTQ and LatinX Communities, claiming the lives of 49 people. 6. Sen. Tommie Tuberville - Lamented Chick-fil-A’s decision to stop giving money to anti-LGBTQ charities: “Isn’t it horrible when liberal activists ruin something good?” 7. VP Mike Pence - supports conversion therapy, believing that since we chose to be gay, we can be shocked/counseled out of being gay, I guess. Even Trump realized that Mike hates the gays. He told reporters that Pence wants to hang us all. 8. More Pence - Stated that LGBTQ-inclusive hate crime legislation would “silence” groups that promote so-called conversion therapy: “Finally, pro-homosexual activist groups such as the Human Rights Campaign have stated their belief that an ad campaign by pro-family groups showing that many former homosexual people had found happiness in a heterosexual lifestyle, contributed to the tragic 1998 murder of homosexual college student Matthew Shepard. There is no evidence that his killers even knew about the ads, and Shepard’s killers told ABC’s 20/20 that they were motivated by money and drugs. However, the danger here is that people use a hate crimes bill to silence the freedom of religious leaders to speak out against homosexuality.” 9. Lt. Gov Ken Paxton, Texas - An Austin school dared to talk about the fact gay people exist during pride month. This aggression will not stand, man! 10. Ken Paxton again - Also is looking for a test case so he can get sodomy laws enforced in Texas again, now that the Roe overturn decision has gotten rid of a right to privacy. 11. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas - In his opinion concurring with the majority, claimed that overturning Roe calls into question marriage equality and sodomy bans, signaling that he'd be in favor of overturning both of those if given the chance 12. Texas Governor Greg Abbott - Issued a recommendation to the Texas state Board of Social Work Examiners that they remove protections for sexual orientation, gender identity, and disability. Following that recommendation, and without an opportunity for public comment, the board voted to adopt the recommendation and consequently Texas social workers can now turn away LGBTQ clients and those with a disability. “There is always a real possibility that trans Texans specifically could be turned away or dissuaded from accessing the medical resources they need. At a time when many in our community require services to make it through an isolating pandemic, attempting to grant providers a license to discriminate is abhorrent,” said Emmett Schelling, Executive Director of the Transgender Education Network of Texas. I could add a lot more, but I'm going to stop here. There is a never ending stream of people in power not only saying things but acting on those things who are actively out to make the lives of LGBTQIA+ people worse than it is today. This is known. I'm taking you at your word that you just hadn't noticed it before. I'll fall on the sword here and say that I do not spend nearly as much time here advocating for gay rights as I used to, but I'm happy to start that up again. But if you are going to continue to support these people, I want you to understand the absolute cruelty against people who are different that you are supporting. Condemning those things in a message board means nothing if you continue to vote for them.
  4. I'm not trying to get you to vote alongside me. I'm trying to figure out if there is a line across which you won't cross. I know there was a line for me. I used to vote Republican too. I know a whole lot of people here are in the same boat. I'm wondering where your line is. Is it a preponderance of distastefulness that hasn't been met yet, or are you just ride or die? If there is a line somewhere, I'll talk to you as much as you want to listen. I'll answer any questions you have. Always. If it's the latter, I'm not going to waste my time talking to you at all any further.
  5. I'm still getting through back to back meetings. I'm not talking about whether you'll condemn it. I'm wondering if seeing evidence of the wrongness of the positions your team takes, will it make you rethink your allegiance to that team. If it won't, I'm not going to bother. I don't frankly care what you condemn here if you are going to keep voting for more of the same actions that draw your condemnation.
  6. I'm saving this one to come back to when I have some time to actually pull the evidence. But would quotes from current congresspeople and lieutenant governors and governors be enough? If I go do the work to show this to you, will it make you rethink your stance even a little bit?
  7. Not sure if I told this story or not, but my uncle was a successful business man. Started his career in law enforcement, figured out he hated it and started selling cars. By the time he died he owned a few dealerships. That last time I had a real conversation with him was when we were outside of the hospital where we were pretty sure his dad was getting ready to die after a years long battle with cancer, this was in the early 2000's. The reason it was our last conversation is that he told me that he hoped he got a terminal illness like his dad, because then he'd have nothing to lose, and he had a list of judges he was going to go shoot. It was all the activist judges, on the left, obviously. That was a fun conversation. I'm happy to report he died suddenly of a stroke a few years later, and never did get to fulfill his bloodlust by killing off judges, so we have that going for us. But what I've always wondered is, if people who were comfortably wealthy and had everything going for them are having fantasies about going on shooting rampages against people who politically disagree with them, how bad would it get if the truly disaffected started to take action against people they perceive to have wronged them. And I think we're really getting into what that looks like now. At some point the disaffected are going to lose steam and go back to being disaffected, I suspect, we just have to figure out how to live through it.
  8. British citizens were armed. With weapons that could super efficiently fire 4 bullets per minute!
  9. Fatty, for real, I don't know what point you think you are making but it isn't landing. Either change the way you are talking about this or shut the fuck up already. Your messaging is fucked at the moment. Unfuck it or move on to another topic.
  10. They do not care what you think. They Do. Not. Care. I won't waste my breath calling them because we could be unanimous that guns are bad, and they would not change a thing, because they know who is paying them to hold those positions. The only thing we can realistically do is work towards getting candidates that can beat them and then vote the motherfuckers out. That's it. Talking to them will not change a thing.
  11. Welp. We had a good run. Guess it's time to wrap it up. Too many people are going through life too fact free for us to survive this.
  12. It’s like your house has sprung a leak and you call the electrician to waterproof the wiring to solve the problem.
  13. Saying every word is true by definition proves he hasn’t read it. The very first book has two different origin stories that contradict each other. How can they both be true?
  14. To be honest I had forgotten they were a thing and didn't think of them at all. having them tied back to the proud boys is pretty on brand though.
  15. Hate that you are going through this, and hate even more how little information is still available about what the right MEDICAL answer is here. Hope you recover quickly Nivek!
  16. Super simple answer. Way too many Republicans in Congress. Right now, today, I could get fired from my job because my employer decided he didn't want to have any gays on staff. That would be legal. You don't have to go back that far in our history to see when our government used to work their ass off to root out all the gays working for the feds and fire them when they found them. Didn't matter if they were an astrophysicist or a janitor or an FBI agent, either. Out the door they went. It's the reason so many people are still today in the closet at work. It's why I was in the closet at work until my husband was safely on a green card and couldn't be deported because of our relationship. There's a mental calculus that all gay people who work for someone else have to go through, every day. We have to come out over and over and over again, and we never know for sure, when we come out to the latest person, if everything will be fine or if it will change the way we are perceived. It's fucking exhausting all by itself, and it's only exacerbated by the fact that our government not only won't protect us, but periodically decides to flat out target us.
  17. Nothing in law at a federal level prevents discrimination based on sexual orientation. Most states have not passed such a law either.
  18. Eh, my first thought was I need your game. I'd pay a lot to test positive if it meant I could skip a family reunion.
  19. The only one in that group that can put a sentence together is going to lose. Because she is actually speaking the truth. Think about that.
  20. Wait, proud boys came from Opie and Anthony. Another reason that show sucked.
  21. So Priscilla Queen of the Desert was a great show, but they basically just had a bunch of disco hits and gay anthems playing through the show. And Avenue Q was great because they created the song The Internet is for Porn. I have unfortunately been to a lot more shows than that and have discovered that this style of entertainment is not my thing. That being said, every once in awhile a song will come out of a show that I actually like. The real problem with musicals is that they are like most albums. Usually 0-1 songs are good, sometimes 2 or 3 or good, but it's super super rare to get a whole show filled with good music. I find myself wanting to hit the fast forward button to the next song about 75% of the time when I'm stuck in the auditorium. PQotD worked for me because the set was clever and it was basically a greatest hits album. It doesn't help that I am one of those that hears the melody of the voices rather than the words, so I might have to hear a song 20 times before I actually ever really hear the lyrics and understand what they are talking about. This makes musicals pretty fucking infuriating to sit through, because it is hard to follow the story and most of the songs in any given show are trash even if there happens to be a banger thrown into the mix.
  22. LOL no, tried that. Tried shaming them too. Nope.
  23. I mean what stable genius that you know of has never tried to physically attack their driver and wrest control a car when they weren't in the driver's seat?
  24. He may have truly believed it. But I can show evidence that he only ever truly believed it when he won. He always claimed before and after any election he lost that it was rigged. He cried wolf every fucking time. He was disabused of that belief from his most senior advisors who knew it was not true, and if he continued to believe it after that point, that's on him. His belief, I think, quits being important when you can point to a string of past beliefs that show he's just essentially a sore loser on the one hand, and on the other, when you can show that people in a position to know, told him his belief was incorrect. That tells me that #1, he doesn't truly believe it and it's all an act, or #2, he's a buffoon who was never suited for the office (or both). Actually, it's just both. I don't think there are many people left in the world who don't wear Republican pompoms who would disagree that it's both.
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