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How surprised are you by the Trump Era?
Section4Row36Seat8 replied to Hookah Horns's topic in Cloak Room
https://www.vox.com/2020/11/4/21537966/trump-black-voters-exit-polls https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-men-drifted-democrats-toward-trump-record-numbers-polls-show-n1246447 https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-losing-ground-with-white-voters-but-gaining-among-black-and-hispanic-americans/ https://en.as.com/en/2020/11/10/latest_news/1605013158_639997.html I’m not saying republicans are taking over the block vote anytime soon. I’m just saying trump got more than any recent president and his only difference in republican message is F the media. He still had all the same traditional Republican Party platform besides being a dick to the media. -
How surprised are you by the Trump Era?
Section4Row36Seat8 replied to Hookah Horns's topic in Cloak Room
Do a simple google search. Tons of articles about black men voting for trump in 2020 most ever. Especially the 18-44 crowd. -
This isn't entirely true either because there would most likely be a second tier system where rich people could pay to gain medical care quickly and that would be another set of cost, though it could easy the stress on a single payer system. I have no idea how much the second tier system would cost, I guess it depends on how much rich people hate waiting. If medicare for all costs $32 trillions I'd wager you could milk $10-17 trillion out of a private pay system.
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How surprised are you by the Trump Era?
Section4Row36Seat8 replied to Hookah Horns's topic in Cloak Room
I think Trump is the first symptom of a further spreading cancer. There are a crapload of people that want to give a big FU to the media and perceived elite crowd that tells them what to do and when to do it. There are a bunch of joe lunchboxes that think those people are the worst thing alive and Trump is the first one to rise to power and validate their feelings. Trump's problem is he's batshit crazy and too many people were shaking their head going WTF whenever he would send out his 1000 tweets a day. If you get a more eloquent speaker that can put together a coherent sentence and carry on the torch of telling the media, political class to F off with language that speaks to the common person without using the system so blatantly to his advantage (see charging millions to the US tax payer for trips to his country club and hotels) then you could see it rise again. I don't think this is relegated to lower middleclass white dudes either. Trump stirred something in a decent size group of African Americans too, the ones that are fed up with the democrat system that keeps promising and underdelivers for the past 60 years. If that movement garners traction you could definitely see an overtly fascist leader rise up and scare the crap out of the political elite class (see Hitler). -
This sounds really good. I'd go for this. The problem is there will be something else inequitable and eventually we are going to have to tell people to f off. I'm not saying we shouldn't try, I'm just say eventually we will have to realize we can't do everything to make everything equitable. But I agree, feeding kids a proper diet is something America should be able to do. Its just when and who gets to decide where to stop will then be the power struggle.
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I hope youre right about the equity. Just seems like a dumb thing to say we all end up in the same place. Doesn't seem possible first of all and isn't something I want my president to say. I'd want everyone to get the same opportunities that they want to get and be encouraged to make the most out of them and helped along the way, but if someone isn't capable of being a good doctor or lawyer or plumber or message board moderator, I'd want them to do something else.
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I totally agree but define "same chance". 10,000 people graduated from UT with me. I guarantee 20 years later some are more successful than me and others are not. When does the "same chance" stop? If I bitch enough because I'm not successful as some other dude, will she step in and help me get there? At what cost?
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No I don't think people from poor areas should get an inferior education. My concern is more about how do you get people to the same outcome and not end up severely holding back the greatest of us? There is no way I catch up to Bolt without some major help and no mater how much running education you give me/training, there is no way we end up running the same speed. I"m sure you could help me improve my time in the 100 meter dash but ultimately you're gonna have to hold him back or do so much for me that it looks like favoritism/nepotism/cheating to get us to the same results.
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regardless of your definition, what she is pedaling sounds pretty crappy to me. If I bust my butt I'd hope I get recognized for it. And if I slack off and the other guy busts his butt I'd hope he would get rewarded more than me. I don't want to end up in the same place for unequal work and talent. Whats the incentive to try if we all end up in the same place. I guess in my earlier scenario Usain Bolt has to come back and pick me up and carry me across the finish line because I'm so damn slow? While that sounds all touchy feely and wonderful, all it is ultimately gonna do is make him sit around playing x box and drinking tigerclaw while he waits for me to catch up so we can cross the finish line together.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1322963321994289154 How the heck am I supposed to vote for this? Trump is a disaster but this is the definition of communism. There is no way Usain Bolt and I end up at the finish line at the same time even if we start at the same starting line unless someone chains an anchor to him or gives me a jetpack. And this isn't some right wing rag site. This is her own twitter feed. Stuff like this is scary. This is a no win scenario. We screwed America.
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