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Don’t feed the troll

Ok name whatever TE you want in his prime and he’s not catching that one. Give it up.

Travis Kelce isn’t catching that one

Passer Efficiency is a pretty crap statistic, it doesn't account for rushing. If VY was the same threat for running the ball as quinn I don't think we'd remember him as fondly.

not running the ball. 2.8 ypc. They pass blocked well, which has always been the strength of this OL under Flood. You'd think these massive dudes would be better at throwing their weight around.

Sure, but when you change what the QB is seeing from pre-snap to post-snap like OU and Georgia did it makes it a lot harder to make plays, especially when your QB has a tendency to revert to bad habits when rattled. They made it easy for a rhythm QB to know where to go with the ball, and a quick to counter OC know how to attack your tendencies.

they blitzed a lot, but crucially they didn't vary the back end. It was a standard cover 3 shell like 90% of the time

I'm not sure where this is coming from. Taking out sack yardages, only Georgia kept us to what I would consider a bad ypc. I think more than anything Sark is abandoning the run too often, combined with negative plays forcing us to throw.

plenty of RPOs don't have an extended mesh, that is more of a veer and shoot look. You just need to look at the left side of the line, they are run blocking. If it was play action their steps would be backward

that is very clearly an RPO which should've been handed off, though Vandy did a good job of disguising the blitz to muddle Quinn's read.

Lol this is why people are saying you must be related to him. Not the most mobile? He’s glacial Footwork isn’t the best? It’s been terrible his whole career Shaky with the deep ball? He’s been terrible at it his whole career A little panicky with pressure? He has abysmal pocket presence As far as some people are taking being blind haters (some like immamac are definitely taking it way too far) you are just as much being a sunshine pumper.

The point I think is that while Quinn wasn’t the clear weak link yesterday like he was against OU and Georgia, the fact is that he needs things to be perfect around him for the offense to not be anemic. Because of his inability to reliably throw the ball down the field or make something out of nothing, there is no margin for error. Thatguy excusing him for every other player around him not executing flawlessly is damning him with low expectations imo

A bit, he says

I quickly rewatched to reassess the play of the OL predominantly on negative plays Can Williams with a very stupid late shove to the face mask for a PF First holding on Banks was BS. I truly don’t see what the ref could’ve seen to call it. He just fell forward and pushed his man. First sack was Blue not picking up blitz up the middle on slide protection. Commentator weirdly blamed it on Conner but Blue just had to stay where he was to pick up the blitzer but he slid to the right. I think he didn’t know half slide right was called. Second sack was a bit the pocket collapsing and a bit Quinn not getting it out quick. I’ll score that mostly to the OL. 3rd blitz was an rpo that Quinn pulled to throw but should’ve handed off. Can’t really blame the OL giving up a sack when they’re run blocking Niblack with an obvious hold on 3rd and 1. Stupid and unnecessary Next play Williams gets badly whipped on a spin move to give up a sack. Williams played very poorly overall. Terrible call holding call against Helm where he basically pancaked his man. Another one where I have no idea what the ref was seeing Overall the pass pro wasn’t abysmal but it wasn’t great. Mostly it was an offense wide problem of miscommunication, skill players not doing holding up their end of the bargain, some questionable choices by Quinn and some baffling calls by the refs. Didn’t pay attention as much to the run game on this skim, but once they started squeezing down well on our power and pin and pull we lost effectiveness in the 4th and our inside zone continues to be mostly ineffective especially running behind Conner.

So you think arch is one of the worst qbs in the power 5?

And ewers is a figured out known commodity. You seem to really be going to bat for the guy, for some reason. Not sure why you think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Not having rewatched but of the four sacks, one was on Blue not picking up the blitz and two were on RPOs where the ball has to come out quick but Quinn didn’t get rid of it

I don’t understand the thought that we have to ride with Quinn because Arch will make mistakes. Quinn makes a lot of mistakes and doesn’t make up for it with play making ability. Would you rather have the guy with the high delta or the guy you know is going to be a liability if everything isn’t going perfectly?

What point are you trying to make?

There’s just something about sarks teams that are never as good as the sum of the parts

That’s not how pattern matching works at all

he's incapable of throwing it hard on a line bc of his shitty mechanics.

Completely agree. We know what we have in Quinn, a guy who is a total coin flip to show up and hasn't proven he has what it takes to beat elite defenses. This team has playoff aspirations but it will take a QB who can consistently make plays against good teams. We don't know if Arch is that guy, but imo we do know that it isn't Quinn.

so what explains this upward movement?

He’s wilted more times than he’s come through