suddenly shaggy

Not to mention, Mensch is a conservative, is pro-Brexit and was talking about getting on the "Trump Train" multiple times after Trump was elected. She's straight up grifter, not so different from Trump. Everyone closely associated with her is either so naive, their judgement can't be trusted to tie their own shoes, or is a grifter too.

Every few weeks someone throws down a deadline. The Mueller report will be out next Friday, but it turns out to be Trumpkin sources trying to put pressure on Mueller. Ken Dilanian insisting the Mueller report would be out Feb 14th was the latest example. Sooner or later, it'll happen, but I'm not holding my breath it will be tomorrow. Especially to avoid an Ides of March indictment. That's fucking stupid. Almost all the previous sources for dates that didn't happen were also anonymous DOJ sources trying to delegitimize Mueller. This one probably is too.

It's okay, Mango4 only pawn in game of South Dakota.

They let too many lieutenants get away.

I've been saying this for a long time now. This is a direct parallel to how Rome fell and people need to pay attention to it. Trump is in the same spot Julius Caesar was in. He can't leave office willingly, or he'll be prosecuted immediately. In Trump's case, even aside from Russia, it's a shitload of prosecutions. Trump can't step down, because as soon as he does, Trump Org assets will be seized through RICO and Trump will spend the rest of his life in jail. Our very own Orange Julius.

Not to mention, most of the names/organizations Nadler hit with requests are involved in the Russian collusion part of this as well, or at most, one step removed.

All under the direction of Bill Shine, head of news and programing at Fox and now the Deputy White House Chief of Staff. Apparently he was questioned by prosecutors, but NY Times has changed their policy and the private mode reading doesn't work anymore. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/bill-shine-trump-communications.html

Gotcha, I wasn't. To be honest, I know almost nothing about him and was making a disparaging assumption based on his close association with Ken Starr, who is an absolutely loathsome toad. I apologize to him if that is in fact a false assumption.

I didn't mean for what I typed above to come off hostile. I was editing the post, got called away in the middle and it's an incomplete thought. I'd be interested to see more on his thoughts above, because I can see some of the logic. However, is this not still true?

RIP, but it doesn't change what I said. When did Rotunda change his mind? When did Jaworski? TwiceHorn didn't actually post any evidence for either claim. So far, we've seen evidence both Rotunda/Starr and Jaworski thought they had the authority to indict, but chose not to. We have seen no evidence that Rotunda/Starr or Jaworski ever changed their mind.

Jaworski believed he had the authority. Starr and Rotunda also believed they had the authority to indict the president. They all chose not to indict the president, which is exactly what will happen now. They all thought they had the authority to indict the president though. Rotunda and presumably Starr have changed their mind, because it is a Republican in office.

Jaworski and Starr both concluded they had the authority to indict the President, but chose not to. Starr even had his staff draw up a draft indictment. I just posted this on the last page. For the record, I am not arguing someone is going to indict Trump, but nothing, except a DOJ policy precludes indicting the President and there is nothing preventing a state from doing so. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/us/politics/can-president-be-indicted-kenneth-starr-memo.html

Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism Dude, at least it's an ethos. Donald Trump only believes in Donald Trump.

Thanks hitby. Lulz at the idea that Hugo has time for socks.

Based on the amount of bitching about Hugo by far right posters, trolls and sock accounts, I'd say he's doing a good job derailing the Right Wing Bullshit Machine. Based on Hugo's 5,601 rep points, I'd say those bitching represent a very loud, but tiny part of the Politics board readers. I do find it ironic that y'all complain so much about Hugo posting content and post so little non-bullshit content of your own. Quit attacking the messenger and contribute something worthwhile.

Oh, I know. That's why I ended it "impeachable offense in a functioning USA". The GOP has abrogated their duty and become a shit-flinging troop of Trumpanzees. As long as some of that shit lands in the eyes of liberals and makes tears, they are happy.

Not that it matters, but using his bully pulpit to shill for Trump properties is illegal and unethical. This, especially combined with the many other times he's also done this about Trump properties, or Ivanka products is an impeachable offense in a functioning USA.

Chavez fucked the multi-nationals and fucked his own country in the process. If Venezuela wants to resume profitably extracting and refining their oil, they are going to have to have multi-nationals do it. Venezuela does not have the expertise and that is entirely self-inflicted.

They need to. They fired all their own experienced people, then kicked the West out and cancelled their contracts losing that expertise. This fucked their industry up colossally. They are going to have to import people from somewhere that know what the fuck they are doing to get the industry restarted. https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/05/07/how-venezuela-ruined-its-oil-industry/#6c6f9db7399d

Ken Starr and Leon Jaworski both thought they could legally indict the President. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/22/us/politics/can-president-be-indicted-kenneth-starr-memo.html

Wrong. The Constitution says nothing about whether the President can be indicted. It includes Impeachment as a remedy, but does not exclude indictment. People have argued that it is implicit, but it is not stated. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/29/us/politics/a-constitutional-puzzle-can-the-president-be-indicted.html

That's because it would take both hands (four Trump hands).

I completely agree with this. An extension of the same thought says he won't step down willingly. This is a man who believes laws and rules should not apply to him. Fuck the Constitution, the world should operate according to his whim.

Department of Justice opinion is that a sitting president cannot be indicted. While many Americans feel that it is absolutely antithetical to everything the US stands for, because no one should be above the law, that is current DOJ policy. It is not law, just policy, but there is ZERO chance Barr will let Trump be charged. DOJ policy is also to not name people that are not indicted, which is why Trump shows up as "Individual One". The President of the United States is currently an un-indicted co-conspirator. Until he is no longer President, that is how he will remain. The GOP doesn't give a shit and will not vote to convict or remove Trump, for any reason, especially if he is not indicted, which he won't be. Some of you keep waiting for Trump to cross a bridge too far, but that is fantasy. Trump owns the GOP and they will follow like the subservient toadies they are. Impeachment is a losing battle right now. The House could easily impeach him for a dozen things he's done so far, but the Senate will not remove him and the right wing media will rally behind him. Pelosi is playing the only card she has, the slow bleed, hoping enough Americans start paying attention to start putting pressure on the GOP.