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He wasn't eligible. He's a depth WR for ASU now. Not good, not bad. ASU basically overhauled everything once the good players left after the NCAA stuff and took in a bunch of formerly high end recruits as reclamation projects. He's been kind of ok. Xavion Alford and Prince Dorbah have actually been pretty damn good for them. Clayton Smith too (OU but from Texas), though he just got a babyshit soft targeting that's going to keep him out of the 1st half of the Utah game. Some dudes just need a clean start. It's kind of a trip watching dudes that weren't panning out elsewhere be kinda nice in Tempe after watching Daniels, Pearsall, Wilson, Gentry, et al bounce (understandably, NCAA shit). I hope Jermayne Lole gets some run for you guys. He should have gone pro like 3 years ago before the neverending injuries. Totally different player than he was 2019 and 2020, but hey. Still plugging.

There is no hedge. ASU can dick around and wait and wait and wait, and they'll still be able to walk into the Big 12 whenever/if ever they feel like there's nothing else on the table. The same reasons for the potential lack of a B1G or SEC invite apply both ways. It is an enormous school with an enormous alumni basis in a top 10 city (and the ONLY university besides for profits in said top 10 city, which is extraordinarily unusual). That's why I think they'd rather go Indy with the elite academic Cali schools and "Figure things out" for a few years. It may be more beneficial for them, and other schools in the remnant Pac, to take some time and improve their marketability and brand when they're at a low. This is the absolute doldrums for the fanbase. They've gone through a series of bad hires since Snyder. At some point, a school that is the only show in town (actually the only university in town) is going to do a few things right, and maybe once they do a few things right they won't be in a situation like they are now, when the last 4 star recruit from their home base was in 2019. And that guy wound up fighting back from medical retirement, being a 2x All Conference DE, and then essentially ended his career after a minute in the CFL because he's too hurt to play. Cable and ESPN are diminishing every year, but the base isn't going to change that much. 60 year olds that wanna push the remote button and watch football aren't leaving. They're just going to get increasingly annoyed when they're told they have to subscribe to X # of systems. ASU happens to have an enormous retiree base from the midwest in its back yard. Sure, Bob the retired engineer in Scottsdale might be a Michigan fan, but he's still probably going to watch ASU too, beyond the normal ASU fanbase... which is diminished and suffering under the Cardinals presence, but they did hold off the Cards on attendance and fanbase until the Glendale stadium opened up. I just don't see a model of CFB that, in the end, decides ASU is on the same tier as, say, Iowa State or whatever. If the numbers aren't there, it's because someone hasn't sold the product properly yet. Thus, they'll wait it out as long as possible to figure out why they currently might not belong. At the end of the day, there's just too much value to go along with "Ok, our new rival is Kansas or Texas Tech."

Our shooty hoops has a bad history with Vegas, but football is fine. Just the normal occasional murder, rapist and pedophile. If gambling can somehow keep west coast football from disintegrating in the way it's heading, and largely because Larry Scott somehow fucked up an easy win when it was offered to him, great. My preference is the Pac 12 just becomes the Pac 10 and makes enough money to compete. I just don't know if that's possible without the LA schools. Seattle, Phoenix and Denver are obviously big deals, and Oregon = Nike, but... That's not enough on its own. Not without SoCal. I think everyone's just tapping the breaks and waiting to see if the big 2 conferences are going to make an offer. As CFB shuffles the teams around, the Bay Area, Seattle and Phoenix aren't going to be left out in the grander schemes. There's just too much money in the areas, although the Bay doesn't really care about its teams.

If I were a young construction worker with enough knowledge and bucks in my pocket to be start a small construction/demolition business, I'd move to Duluth. Like now. A bunch of the old houses fucking suck. As money and people flood in, there's going to be an endless fuckton of renovation on the old buildings, and some will need to be torn down. That city is potentially wonderful, but its money faucet really dried up for a long time and it never really modernized. I'm 6'3" and have size 12 shoes, and it legit felt dangerous going up and especially down the stairs of the two houses we rented last year when we were doing North Shore things. My feet didn't fit on the stairs. Heel or toes, depending on which way you were going. The doors are weird and tiny too. However if you can buy a cheap house on a decent lot, remodel or just start from scratch, it's a wonderful place to relocate to. Superior is basically a small ocean and you can go out and have fun- Just know that it's choppier and waves are more bunched together. Plus, y'know, all the other less choppy lakes in the area. It's cold in the winter, yeah, but there's like 5.8 million people in Minnesota that get by just fine.

I just kind of ignored Oregon State and Wazzu because they seem destined for Big 12 if they can get it, or ostracized to the MWC. They just haven't grown like the other schools. I'm assuming Oregon and Washington are going to get offers from the Big Ten at some point. Washington is a mortal lock and I think Oregon probably is too unless Uncle Phil doesn't leave them the billions I assume he is.

Really late reply, but I was at that game. Made the mistake of getting a little tipsy beforehand. It was one of the biggest backlashes of my life. When it was 21-3 ASU at halftime with Leinart knocked out (literally), I felt fantastic. And then the heat and bodies just weighed on you, and then Bush and White kicked in and the game mimicked how you felt. They didn't actually run out of water, though they were absolutely sending people away. But you couldn't walk to the bathroom without someone at the stairs on a card table forcing a bottle of water into your hand as you passed. By the end of the game I was sick to my stomach because of the 2nd half collapse and probably a mild case of heat stroke. It might have said 100 or 102, but with 70 whatever thousand other people around you, it was outright dangerous. Got to AC, still wound up hurling when I tried to eat a good 6 hours after my last drink. TV sensibilities aside, it is irresponsible to have day games in Arizona, especially in the Valley, early in the season. The place is an oven. You don't even know how much you're sweating. As for ASU in conference realignment, I think they very much want to avoid the Big 12. Crow, for all his faults, has fought long and hard to bring ASU into the upper echelons of research schools and their association with the Cali schools helps them a lot. They sat on the outside looking in at the AAU despite being qualified forever due their low general college admission standards, despite the actual colleges and R&D side being strong. Now it's basically on par with Michigan State, except they haven't had a medical school for in state political reasons. Both AAU and the medical school changed within the last 6 months. They got in and they announced the opening of a new medical school, which is an enormous R&D driver. With their pre-existing relationship with the Mayo Clinic, I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona State expects to be a top 25ish or higher research school within the next 10-15 years and, consequently, they very much want to be around their peers... Which the Big 12 doesn't have. Arizona State very strongly feels they are a better fit with the Big 10 (they even play D-1 scholarship hockey now) or the newest versions of SEC which include UT, Aggie, Florida, Vandy, Georgia (still waiting for their AAU invite I think), etc. If the Pac collapses, I think it's almost more likely they and like Cal, Stanford, Utah, etc. try to go indy for a while.

Kiffen and Sark were the same people at USC. Both of them were initially gifted their label of offensive gurus because they were living off the ghost of Norm Chow, arguably the best offensive coordinator ever. The difference is Kiffen seems like he's picking stuff up and getting better. Sark has always just been Sark.

ASU is going to Tarmac another USC coach.

I'm just here for the gang bang. The lawsuits will be amazing if anything actually happens, though my concern is this is a ploy for TV dollars.

ASU fan. Used to hang out on this forum's predecessor once a while for the game threads, never ending fantasizing about conference realignment and Aggie shit talk, but then there was some weird ownership change and I kind of forgot about Shaggy/Surly for a while.

Who's judging? The vast majority would probably do the same shit. Everyone knows that. The interesting part is what's the schtick? The vibe? I've got Dennis Erickson pegged for sitting at a high end medium tier all inclusive resort in the Dominican, just picking off bored 30-40 year old wives left and right. Daquiri or margarita literally never leaves his hand. Holgorsen described above. Sexy ass 80's vintage IROC. Sexy ass bald Jimmy Buffet mane. More fucking blow than Cocaine Cowboys. I imagine Jackie Sherrill was celibate every day of the year but one, at which point he wore a goat skull as a hat and orchestrated an unholy blood orgy. Glistening. Absolutely fucking glistening with oil and blood. Spurrier is too dangerous. It's probably amazing and terrible.

Be pretty disappointing if he didn't. He's probably too rich for it in reality, but in my mind's eye he cruises around in an IROC convertible with the bald mane just fucking flowing. Coke or a spliff in the glove compartment, just in case the lady needs to top herself off. Majestic mother fucker.

How do you all not know about Sark when he was at Washington? He might be Sabanized now, but he supposedly got around in the past. June Jones allegedly got a Hawaii volleyball player pregnant. Craig Bohl while @ Nebraska as an assistant Dennis Erickson presumably. Because he's Dennis Fucking Erickson.

Don't have to speculate much. AP being the HC-in-training is the worst kept secret in Tempe. Herm (and Marvin Lewis) have been grooming him since he was plucked from Long Beach Poly. Pro Bowler, Super Bowl Champ, tied into So Cal deeply, went to college at Arizona and wound up hating UA's leadership. He's the ASU dream coach. ASU landing Larry Turner-Gooden is part due to AP bringing in Chris Claiborne from USC to coach LB's at ASU. CC and AP are friends. Claiborne had coached LTG at Calabasus previously. The ASU DB coach's father also runs the kid's 7 on 7 team. ASU needs a big year to keep momentum. The good news for them is their roster is in really good shape. This is, on paper, their best team since the Plummer/Tillman era.

USC kind of sucks. If the Texas DL isn't dogshit and actually can get in Daniels' face once in a while, it's a W. That being said, I as an ASU fan would consider it a personal favor if you would let USC win this one so Herm can gorilla fuck them later on and get full credit.