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Apex73

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  1. I disagree. Because you can make a distinction between those who are well spoken and intelligent and those who aren't doesn't mean you are race baiting. That applies to all races obviously. You look at things so narrowly.
  2. Idk dude I don't think about it in terms like that. I talk to humans of all races as long as they are rational. Stop trying to race bait.
  3. I definitely see what you are saying in that its unreasonable to ask someone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps when they are starting so far behind the race that they should just catch up. That's not what I'm advocating for. But to deny that those are the most important real issues facing the community is lunacy in my opinion. If you are talking about the historical circumstances in when LBJ inserted legislation for the war on poverty incentivizing black women to not have a father in the home to receive government money then yea that was fucked up. It incentivizes mothers to have kids out of wedlock and incentivizes fathers to abandon their responsibility. That creates a huge problem and was absolutely put there by a white government. You could say that's racist. I'd say its been the biggest crippler, that and the war on drugs, to the black community since the 60s. But the idea that America is just as racist now as it was then and is still horribly pressed with systemic racism is pure nonsense.
  4. Well I guess you just have me all figured out huh? Lol. Sounds like you cherrypicked the data to support your narrative. I guess It just clears it up because they said we don't advocate violence after 5 cops were killed. We should just believe that. And just because the sniper said he had no affiliation with the BLM group doesn't mean he didn't. And just because black lives matter makes a statement saying they don't support that doesn't mean they don't. I guess you would believe David Duke if he said he fully supported black rights. Not saying he did but I'm not saying he didn't either. I have the videos of the blm protest chants that incite violence but I can't figure out how to link them to here. They are out there though. AlI you have to do is type in black lives matter chants. I agree that I was wrong when I said the FBI classified them as a domestic terrorist group. Saw that on a video without properly fact checking it. I will give you one example of and in depth conversation Ive had with friend of mine who is black. He shares the same points of view as me. The only point of contention is he believes if there is an argument for systemic racism it would be how the schooling system works which I don't 100 percent disagree with that either. I'm not like trying to draw a line in the sand and say none of these concerns are valid. I'm saying theres a middle ground between the extremes and those are the people who seem to properly communicate. The idea that you can equate anything Ive said to white supremacy is laughable at best. Get off your moral high ground and please fall on your own sword of self righteousness.
  5. Because they only see the low hanging fruit to go after. The bigger problems often get ignored and it turns into a ridiculous race debate to deflect the actual problem that politicians and corporations have been screwing around the American working class for a long time and they want to keep it that way. The best way to do that is to try to racially divide your working class with a narrative that people can pick a side on. Because they know the real power would be a united working class they would be forced to negotiate with. Deflects the shit off you so you can continue to operate your corrupt political game.
  6. Not in my experience if they are generations removed but Im willing to take your word for it if you have had a different experience. Still that's one country out of a ton so its kind of a moot point.
  7. They don't usually when you first meet them. If you ask questions about their ancestry then they might. Most people who are born in America and are generations removed from where there ancestors are from generally don't say they are German American, Irish American, etc
  8. Then you haven't really read what I said or interpreted it incorrectly. I never said the system doesn't have problems in fact I said we needed to address those but the idea that systemic racism is the biggest problem facing the community I disagree with. Btw you don't speak for all black people. There are plenty of intelligent well spoken black people that agree with me too. What mentalities still exist that is holding you back by in large? And I don't mean the few racist individuals you can bring up. I'm talking about actual legislation or laws that are racist with intent. Show me that and I will agree.
  9. Go look at the videos from the protests a few years ago. They have protesters screaming pigs in a blanket fry em like bacon. And What do we want? Dead Cops! When do we want them? Now! For Christ sake the FBI classified them as a domestic terrorist group a few years ago. I was at the protest demonstration in Dallas when the sniper guy (who is unrelated to the movement) started unloading on cops and at that movement they were screaming similar things. At the very least they incite violence.
  10. That's one hell of a leap to say people insist that people still want to call them negro. I just said I don't understand why we are calling them African American when they are for the most part born American and have never been to Africa. I mean black people is fine and not offensive.
  11. Yea well according to you, anything is morally bankrupt that go's against your opinion on issues like these. Btw who the hell are you to play morality police? Are you trying to say I should pity them so much that I shouldn't share my concerns about this and just go along with whatever they want to do? You are the one who is dehumanizing them saying we should pity them so much that they can't take opposing view. With all due respect, I think/hope our players aren't as pathetic as you. You have way too much white guilt. Get off your moral high ground and actually have a real opinion for once.
  12. Lol whatever man. I guess you have your right to that opinion. God bless.
  13. What? I fail to see how that makes any since. Im asking for a nuanced discussion. It's you who has the mentality of agree with this or you are the one with the problem. Enough with you. You are annoying.
  14. I mean a group that has openly called for the killing of cops is pretty radical and extreme to me. Idk how you stand on that but doesn't sound like a solid group of rational people. I believe it started with good intentions but got hijacked by extremists like movements often do. Happens all the time throughout history.
  15. Im not going to rehash all the issues we have discussed in the thread. Go back and look at it yourself. Im tired of explaining it to you because you only hear what you want to hear.
  16. If the song really hurts them then I am very concerned about the mental toughness of our current players.
  17. This is by far the dumbest thing Ive heard on this thread. Pick a side? How about you consider what YOU think about the issue instead of what your'e being told by both groups. They both are radical and extreme. No room for nuance. No room for thinking. Just Lynch mob justice right? What a fucking idiot.
  18. Yea I don't know about cancerous locker room. I hope they are unhappy about the way they played last season. Dude is reaching.
  19. Im sorry but because someone insists on singing the song and not being silenced doesn't mean they have racist intent. It only takes 3 seconds of thinking to come up with a conclusion like that.
  20. It doesn't. And a lot of people don't even really care about these issues, they are just mining for morality points.
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