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College football is a major cash cow.. This is an area they will invest in still if the value is there. So the whole the PAC was late to market is a cool story and all, but that's all it is... ESPN and it's live sports isn't the financial issues. It's in other areas that the mouse took it's hits, mainly Disney+ What all of us tend to overlook is that ESPN and Fox seldom, If ever compete against each other for college football. In fact, they divide up the content they want and practically hand their bid in together. If almost as if they. Were partners and not competitors. They (nor the SEC and B10) never step on each other's toes when it comes to contracts and expansion.. in fact it's as if each side knows what the other is doing a long time before the news breaks... They worked together to save the BIG 12 three times now, and they seem to have worked together to let the PAC die... I guess if you and your competitor can find a way to share the market instead of fighting for every inch, you probably save you both countless millions

ESPN isn't in any hurry to. Do anything with the ACC. In fact. They've been nudging schools towards the BIG 12. Which means the ACC is dead... FSU will get their wish, the question is when. For FSUs sake it needs to be soon. But i have a feeling they are going to be stuck in ACC hell for a long time. The conference as a whole nor the members will be forgetting this anytime soon. And ESPN is going to let things settle in and see how it goes before anything else.. and that will take a long time. .

If all these moves pan out, you have the PAC schools plus UO, UW all still playing each other in the Big 10.. huge win for all parties.. Utah reunited with BYU (whether the like it or not) the 'Zona school doing their business of sucking as usual, CU reunited with its old B8 pals all in the B12. A huge win here for the Big12 and the. Newcomers... I think Utah will settle in just fine there once they figure out that they are more Big 12ish than Stanfordish.. Mizzou and OU can get back to t butt suckling each other. Without OU having to miss out on all the State Fair food (andeven meth heads need to eat. Sometimes). Aggy and Arky get to enjoy those regular beating they enjoyed so much... Another huge win, especially for Texas who gets/keeps not one, not two, but all three of it's bitches back... Overall. Realignment has been a win win for all.. Wait... I left out Maryland and that other one..... Don't care..... And poor Nebraska.... They just get shit on all over... No friends, no wins... Only a steady diet of Hawkeye dick to sustain them. Couldn't happen to a nicer group. Osborne finally had one of his stupid decisions bear fruit, he led those imbeciles to the dessert to die

If the rumors of the Big 10 taking Stanford are true, they will be in position to put ND in checkmate at will, with Stanford, Michigan, and Stanford all in the Big 10, and once there's a clearer picture of how playing 8 vs 9 conference games factors in with the playoff committee, ND is about to have to decide between anchoring either the ACC, the Big 12 or joining the Big 10. It isn't in the Big 10s best interest for three of their members to play ND yearly. Especially when they expect two of those three to constantly be in the playoff picture. The Big 12 is probably most balanced so the extra money from playing ND vs the chance of that one of those games being the difference of getting another team in the playoffs might not be worth it. The SEC, with OU and UT coming in, doesn't benefit from ND playing their teams very often either, leaving ND faced either actually becoming a true Blueblood and anchoring a conference, or joining one. Speaking of playoffs, this PAC thing is going to put a wrench in the current setup. If they survive, the Big 10 and the SEC are not going to be cool with losing a playoff spot or two to a conference made up of UO, UW, the scrub Cali schools, Boise St, Hawaii Wyoming, SDSU, Fresno, San Jose, SMU, Saint Marys school for the Blind... If UO or UW can't go undefeated with that schedule, they should be banned from football for a year, so going undefeated shouldn't automatically be a playoff spot either... At least the Big 12 has legs to stand on. They have two recent playoff teams (one made the finals). UFC and BYU have shown they can play big boy football outside of fluke seasons. Baylor, TT, OSU, ISU, and WVU are not considered cupcakes by anyone's metric. It doesn't shock anyone when they beat good teams. They do quite often. But if the PAC dies (which is probable) it still changes the playoff auto bids. Either way, there will be some questions people will want clarification on as soon as the smoke clears out west

I remember. You were my insite into the real sentiment within the PAC. When you told me about the clause USC and UCLA received when the PAC went to equal revenue distribution made it easy to see this train wreck coming from back then. Knowing what to look for and what things would affect it , it was easy to see the cracks forming and growing, and when the DirecTV deal didn't happen. I posted that was the final straw and the PAC just became unstable. Everyone thought I was crazy, because the PAC was as stable as it gets, I just responded with just sit back and watch... It won't be noticeable at first but you will start to hear things, not in the media, but within the local writers, and that not only is the PAC going to become unstable. Call me crazy all you want, and it will probably be a year or two before it's becomes noticable, but not only is the PAC in serious danger of collapse, I can name the two schools to watch closely, starting around a year before their current contract expires. But Scott not getting it done with the last real hope of getting a breakthrough for PACNET with the national carriers just put USC and UCLA up to be poached.... Nobody wanted to listen, but it isn't rocket science. USC isn't giving up it's 100 plus years of elite status in football with a "well we had a good run" just because the PAC missed the money train. They will do just like we or any other school that has the ability to do so, they will go where the money's at.... I love you guys getting slaughtered all over the place by everyone. Embrace it and bask in the glory of all those tears. Especially when you can look everyone of the left behinds and tell them they know their school would do the same if it was given the chance... If the money gap had been a few million USC would still be there, but a 10 20 30 million gap? It's not a complicated choice... During our media days, the #2 head of the Big 12 took some comical shots at us... Since we have money, I guess we are supposed to be happy to continue working for a fraction of our value and be happy, you know, just with being able to provide food for the B12 children... I'm not sure when they forgot that we are the University of Texas, and not the University of the Big 12. Our leadership in place to do what they believe is in the best interest of the University of Texas and that's what they do... In fact they see to it that we pay out membership fees to the BIG 12 so it can afford to hire competent people who to oversee what's best for the conference as a whole. Seeing Texas as a cash cow and never bother to ask yourself how big is the money gap going to have to get between the BIG 12 and the 2 big boys before it might become an issue. The failure of both of our conferences to identify things that will become major issues until it runs them over and an in hindsight is brain numbing. Instead, we hear Texas has money so they won't care that schools in other conferences make 2 or 3 times they do... Texas has money because it's been good at managing its personal money, and sitting on it's thumb doing nothing about getting left off the money train goes against the reasons why Texas has money... If the BIG 12s office had bothered to glance at OUs football board, it wouldn't have taken long to see their fanbase has been wanting to leave for years and it was going to be just a matter of time before its administration would have to cave... None of this is hard to foresee.. maybe the when and where of things can be, but not the issues that will cost you the schools that are of value to richer conferences. But a huge money gap and exposure gap is a sure ringer every single time. It isn't USC or UT place to look out for the conference. It's the conference's job to look out for them. That's the whole reason they are part of the conference to begin with... Oh, and it was the right call to vote against expansion. It wasn't just the right call to make, it was the only call USC could make. Blocking that from happening especially knowing the flack you would face once you announced your departure, shows you have standards you hold yourself to... It would have been fucked up to allow any poaching of other schools without putting all your cards on the table. No matter how much they cry about it. It was the correct call to make

The new demand is matchups. FSU vs Florida, Bama, LSU, Georgia, Texas, OU, etc on a regular basis, is worth more to ESPN than FSU vs Clemson. Especially when Clemson would likely follow... And if there is anything to the Big 10 rumors are real, that puts UNC and whoever else with value in the SEC also. Which is where everything is headed anyways. If not now, 13 years from now the ACC. Will get carved up. If I were in charge of the ACC or the Big 12, I'd really start to consider it being time to shed bloat and merge the best of what's left to maximize their value. It's what's the Networks are practically doing. They are maximizing the bang for their bucks.. it used to be regional matchups between rivals that made money... Then TV money came in and it was the size of your footprint that had the value, but now, they are after the national eyes. I'm a huge college football fan, but I don't care about rivalry games between Ole Miss and Miss St for example. Not many outside of their region give a shit either. But more of them would tune in to watch FSU play either of them. Paying 30 to. 50 million to the Purdues, Vandys, North Westerns. Etc while paying 20 million to the FSUs and Clemson isn't ESPNs ideal of good business. They would love nothing more than to pay the schools what they are worth period... There is a gap between P5 and G5s. Most of the G5s that have P5 value have made it up a rung, and as we are about to see, some P5 bottom feeders are about to lose their free ride and get sent down the ladder... the ACC is next... It's simple, the PAC viewership is something like (and has been for decades) 1/4 less than the other conferences (per population). This is why they are dead in the water today. The teams that have value, become more valuable if you put them playing teams back east. Now those teams stop being shackled to that late window. The ACC death came with the introduction of conference networks. They are in the SEC and BIG 10 footprint even if there's no SEC/B10 teams in that state... The value they have is maximized by matching them against schools most of the population in their area follow. Sending many of them to the G5 pool where their 4 thousand fans can watch them playing more along their level is a win win for everyone... The BIG 12 is im a good place. People in its footprint watch football.. it's a perfect landing spot for teams that have value, but are redundant the SEC/BIG 10... I'm sure there's teams in the SEC and B10 that the networks wish they could swap out with some Big 12 schools, but they know they can't win them all.. iif they could, they would dump about half the p5 schools completely and create the NFL Jr out of the rest..

I said that same thing when FSU first started this however long ago in their public meeting. There playing an angle because there is no way they are not beating their fanbase into a frenzy 13 years before time... The only thing I've heard to may make sense is that the GOR wasn't signed as part of the Conference requirements. The contract is between the schools and ESPN. So it's ultimately ESPN who holds the grant of rights and not the ACC itself. So if ESPN is willing to let them out, the ACC can only hold them to the exit fee., and as long as ESPN doesn't change the contract's value (which is peanuts), for the duration, they can't even sue either for losses... I'm not sure of the validity of any of this, but maybe there's something there

WRTS... Better players. Check. With the whole greatest class evar thing Better coached. Check, got Jimbo.. Better stadium, facilities, fans. Check. Better turditions. Check. More alumni. Check More popular. Check. Better marching band. Check Saved the world from Nazis and COVID. Check. As much, if not more money. Check Now that (once again) they have a legitimate chance on a level playing field to once and for all put tu in their rearview, aggy hears things that go bump in the night at plain noon... WE aren't even officially a member for another year, yet we already own the SEC. What happened to "we would own the shorthorns if they weren't scared to play us"? Instead, we get we want our rivalry with LSU, Alabama (moral victories count stupid sip) and anyone NOT tu as our rivals. You know our new turditional rivals. "Fine, whatever, we will but only if they come to our house! Please? You owe for the whole Bevo thing and not putting us in the playoffs. Not to mention y'all didn't have our backs and allowed the App St. game to take place. I can't wait to read the posts of how we payed the refs. Especially when we weren't even the one's who handed them the loss... Poor battered aggy... Whoop

Personally, I don't care what they call it. Just give me blow u in Dallas every year and I'm set. I can tell a fellow longhorn if I just say the rivalry (game), just like I can tell aggy with the same phrase. One knows it and the other, well...

I don't see aggy scheduling App St again within any of our lifetimes. Their new 100 year decision.

I totally agree. I just thought him going off was donut of character for him that his horns were shining bright. I can watch his shit and enjoy his content. That isn't something I can say about a couple of others who's voice annoys me so much that I can't make it 2 mins into their show before shutting it off no matter how interested I am in the title.

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I do wonder if "Going to market early" would have been a real option if the exit fees hadn't been so costly (especially on OU). How much of the 31 million per school deal based on value and not ESPN sweeteners. And yes, ESPN giving up the Michigan vs Texas game in 2024 says ESPN was sweetening the pot. Paul pegged it with we will see just how valuable the Big 12 is the next round when there is nothing to stand on but their own legs... These numbers paint a bleak picture for viewership value of the new BIG 12. Sorry BYU, you are not bringing massive numbers to the table... In fact, your viewership on national TV period is pretty weak.... Sorry Cinci, trusting Paul's numbers once again, your best year in modern times (2021) being your playoff year, you were ranked 66th in viewership that year. Houston? Even less value at 77th. UFC? If a tree falls...? I hope us and the dirt burglars both threaten to mudhole every team in front of us that the Big 12 has to rely on their refs to keep it somewhat close and it becomes so blatantly obvious that the national media has a field day with it all season long... there will be 'a few' more eyes watching this farewell tour year so those OSU type of fuckings will not go unnoticed. Especially when it becomes the weekly theme. Piss off the national crowd and watch those national viewership numbers tailspin... not to mention how that will affect the playoff committee's decision making for years to come. Who knows you might even find yourself invited back to market early... Don't fuck with the Duck

I’ve never heard the “Texas wants to control everything” debate from this angle, and you may have a point. Basically, you owned up to it and admitted Texas had to be the alpha in the house because they were the sole breadwinner for so long in a huge house full of orphans they adopted. There is nothing in college football history quite like the imbalance of the old SWC. A one state plus Arkansas conference that politically forced a blue blood like Texas to prop up and subsidize virtually any Texas institution who had an alum in the legislature. Then when the imbalance got so absurd that a crash was inevitable, they merge with the Big 8 to save that conference, Nebraska couldn’t handle having to compromise on anything, and Texas got the blame. This is the first time Texas has ever been in a conference that wouldn’t collapse or have to significantly alter their identity without them. https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-football/texas-aandms-anger-over-texas-and-oklahoma-joining-the-sec/108964709/ I think this poster wears an Alabama tag... Suck it aggy, Alabama vs Texas had 3.5 million more viewers than Alabama vs aggy. There's a reason they want us and visa versa.

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I'm pretty sure this wasn't just some random stupidity from some asshat. This was an official statement from the Big 12s front office... Keep up the good work Big 12. Just one more incentive for our team to kick the living shit out of anyone standing between us and the door.

This rant is even better than Bobby's.

His what, 15 minute rant is well worth the watch. It covers the sentiment around here towards the Big 12 to a tee.

I watch his stuff. But I've never seen him so pissed off as he's been this year at the Big 12. He's liable to throat punch the deputy commissioner if they end up in an elevator together.

I know. Lol.

When the fuck did Bobby become a longhorns fan. He's going off on the big 12s deputy's comments On Texas Football's live stream right now. I've never heard him so fired up. Hands down, his best rant ever

We're fucked

The only reason aggy isn't great is because of tu... You gotta love the Great Sip Conspiracy... I wonder what gems we would have if the internet has been around from aggy's birth. JFK? Kept aggy from not being first on the moon? aggy not part of the Manhattan project? Manhattan project not code named something aggy related (list too long to type)? I wonder if the tu conspiracy carries over to the afterlife? Saint Peter probably doesn't even argue anymore... "Yep, the Sips fucked you good here too. They bought heaven 115 years ago. It's out of my hands..."

Haha... If Texas owned ESPN, aggy would still be in the Big 12.

This... I don't see them getting what the Big 12 did, but even if they did, I'm curious to see if Oregon and Washington will sign a long term grant of rights... I can see them signing up to 5 years, but if I were a corner school, I'd have to do some major soul searching on whether to do this song and dance all over again in 5 years knowing that it's likely Wash/Duck are gone... "Hey there Big 12, good buddy, long time no see. I'm ready for that invite now. Mind sending it over? Who is this? Ummm, oh yeah I remember you, it took a second there... Well, about that. We've gone in a different direction from way back when. Damn, if you had called me a year or two ago, i could've helped you out. It's good to hear from you again. Sorry I can't help you out right now, but if something comes up, I'll keep you in mind. I'm kinda busy right now, so I've got to run. I'll call you one of these days when I have a little time. Bye.