Serak The Preparer

Which is funny, but then they just delayed the game for 15 minutes so the Dodgers could warm someone up. What the fuck? Do opponents of the Dodgers now get to just randomly delay a game 15 minutes because they forgot to have someone warm up? Some Dodgers reliever should have gone out and tossed meatballs or just walked 3-4 dudes. MLB just deciding to let the Dodgers get special rules in pretty on par for MLB.

Jesus slorch, you have to remember to be a little more subtle. This is a little on the nose, even for you.

Holy shit, @MillerEP must be asleep, I can't believe I'm beating him on this, but it's actually a somewhat even fight. The Trebuchet has 20 tons on the Javelin but the Jav has jump jets and is way more maneuverable.

That's not true, you are making an assumption. He is just noting that you aren't so crushed that you'll actually vote for a politician that will do something beyond offer thoughts and prayers. In which case, fuck your feelings.

It really is sad that this level of clear insider trading is just treated as a baseline. I am not sure how what the Pelosi's do is any different than what Kelly Loeffler did, and she was widely castigated for her profiteering.

I think Anchorage is my favorite. Like there's a bunch of assholes saying "I like that OTHER city in Alaska! Juneau rules!"

Cops may do good things but they are not good. It's like saying a mobster is good because he does favors to those who reward him. Cops do good acts all the time when it suits then but corruption and violence are so bred into American policing that there cannot be room for actual goodness. Goodness is ground out.

Sad, especially after the OP put in so much effort to describe the situation in order to get meaningful advice.

@Hate - I know you were disappointed about lack of laptop talk so wanted to give you a chance to add to some fine conservative discourse.

Is it your suggestion that we should care (at least more than any other random DUI)? Laura Bush famously killed someone while running a stop sign and it wasn't used in any significant way against W. I am sure someone someone tried to use it against him but I don't recall any actual traction about it.

But do we know how he does against chairs? Really the missing piece of the equation imo.

Just to clarify, I meant that there behavior wasn't an exception against what other cops in other situations have done. Obviously it is morally repugnant and led to more kids being murdered. In that sense yeah it was super duper bad. I should have worded that a bit differently.

I agree 100% that you can tell people "on day 1 that under these circumstances, the expectation is that you go in and attempt to neutralize the threat, and at the very least draw their attention and fire away from the kids." I can also look at cops behavior or Parkland, at Uvalde, and at other non-school shootings. They don't do what they're supposed to. That's bad - full stop. Yes they should go in. But they don't, not with actual training. I am not arguing with you or @Brisketexan about what cops SHOULD do. I am arguing about what I think realistic expectations are for poorly-trained bullies who aren't used to actually being fired upon. The cops here weren't exceptionally bad - this should be viewed as just the baseline shitty behavior that should be expected, which is why the solution isn't more cops at more schools. It won't work. Anyway, I've said my piece on this - can agree to disagree.

Do you want cops to go through marine training? Because I sure as hell don't want MORE militarization of police.

I don't think anyone is condoning the cops' collective behavior. I at least am saying it's to be expected. I have 100% sincere respect for firemen rushing in to save a building. I've never done it and don't know what my reaction would be. But I do strongly suspect that I would be less likely to freeze and panic running into a fire than running into a building where someone was shooting me. This is not about firefighters vs cops, it's about a dangerous environment versus being specifically targeted. I suspect almost ANYONE is more likely to freeze or hold off on entry when faced with targeted gun fire. This is my main point - cops aren't the answer because, regardless of right vs wrong, they aren't likely to make the right decision because they're human and scared. This isn't being said as a defense of cops - I think they are almost exclusively power-hungry assholes who get off on abusing people. It's because of this that I have lowered expectations of their behavior when confronted with something like a school shooting.

I keep reading these threads and am going more and more insane. @Immaculate Vibes asking why it's possible to be ashamed to be a Texan. @Bevo joining @Skipper as well-off straight middle-aged white dudes who either have the luxury of not paying attention to politics or not seeing the structural rot within the GOP because it doesn't directly impact them. @Trey3216, @BabaYaga and countless others saying "I don't support murdering kids" when they really mean "I support not-murdering-kids LESS THAN I support lower taxes". And now we, as a nation, are going to spend the next precious moments of potential sanity arguing about the action of shitty cops in Uvalde, who realistically are no more or no less shitty than any cops in other fucking city in this country, and whether we could have celebrated only having, say, 12 dead kids, or 10 dead kids, or maybe getting super duper lucky and having 8 dead kids. These cops were just cops. They want to live - which makes total sense - it's a natural reaction. So surely we can all pivot to "oh, maybe more cops in schools aren't the solution because it turns out THEY FUCKING SUCK" and actually work to solve the problem. Yeah, I'll hold my breath on that last point and see what happens.

Hey does anyone know if @Jshep34usually sends from his SM-G960U using Tapatalk? It's a real mystery.

@statsman after further seeing your posts in the Uvalde theads I am pretty impressed. In this thread and that you are arguing for things that nobody is arguing against while arguing against things nobody is arguing for. I can't go so far as to say you have it all figured out but you sure have a lot figured out.

For anyone wondering who was actually happy about the events a couple of days ago, now we know. @MirrOlure saw this, thought "hmm, that's a good start", and (allegedly) financially supported the Republic Mayor to continue his bang-up job.

This is made ever better when you realize that this was really hauling ass for a sloth This is almost a pic that makes you say Holy Shit.

My man, the police literally do not owe a specific duty to provide police services. They get all of the perks of power abuse, sexual assault, discrimination, practical immunity from liability, etc., but have fuck all obligation to actually apprehend anyone. It's abhorrent but not criminal at all. Hell, it's a good gig if you can get it.

He wanted to be more creative than @immortal14. That is who you are dealing with.

A straight middle-aged white dude looking around at awful the Republican party is and being surprised. Dude - it's been this bad for years, you're just now seeing.

This would all be super relevant if people said Durant was a bad guy.

I stand corrected, I did some skimming of the thread and misread your posts.