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I mean, Shaq was allowed to call himself 320 for years, so why the hell not, sure Sydir, you’re 340.

Irrational expectations fueled by west Texas oil money - what could possibly go wrong!

Just an amazing play all around and the stiff arm might not be the most impressive part. He drove the guard back five yards which flushed Burrow into the arms of Simmons. He then had the presence of mind to pick pocket Burrow before he hit the turf. He was the highest graded defender for the Titans on Sunday and looks like a franchise player for them.

I agree with this 100%. There's definitely some overreacting and folks misidentifying shit going on, but there's also clearly something going on in the background they aren't telling the public (could be benign, could be with good intentions, could be totally prosaic, etc.).

I’m just quoting what they said. Sounds like you heard what you want to hear, so that’s the important thing.

I would encourage you to, as you say, do your own research and review the actual WSJ reporting on the Langely drones. Seems very unlikely that the feds, so accustomed to nabbing trespassers as you rightly point out, would struggle for weeks over one of our most sensitive bases.

They have said that is their initial assessment and that they’re investigating. But they have no idea what it is. Which is why a lot of the politicians on both sides of the aisle are pissed.

Of course it’s considered. My only point is that it shouldn’t be the only thing considered, especially with the incursions on our military installations.

I have not seen a single person on this thread suggesting it is aliens. And if you're a normal person flying the drones illegally, why would you keep the lights on either? I think the bottom line is that it doesn't make a ton of sense to fly drones with blinking lights over a populated area unless you (i) are doing it intentionally and don't care or don't think you'll be caught or (ii) you aren't sophisticated, in which case, why are we struggling to put a stop this? Blinking lights don't exclude much of anything.

Where have I do that? What I have said is civlian reports + military reports + people receiving classified reports and saying there is something there lends me to think that, more likely than not, there is more to the story here. You mean like the Wall Street Journal (admittedly not liberal, but a serious news outlet), the BBC, the New York Times, and CNN? Those liberal rags? And aren't you relying on...well, feelings? You saw it reported on Fox, and now assume that everyone who treats it seriously is a Fox News nut?

Do you want me to go through and reiterate all of my very detailed posts on this thread? And why is this political? Because I agree with Brisket on pretty much every political item he posts.

No fucker, I just believe that posters on a football message board with an avatar of penis eating a penis are equally fallible as people in New Jersey (although I acknowledge it’s close).

Look I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree. I've given my thoughts and you've given yours.

There's plenty of examples of our military doing just that on incursions in our airspace. And if it is our drones, isn't that cause for concern? What the fuck are they doing with those drones and why are they using them at night? What on earth were they doing at Langely? Look, I generally agree with pretty much everything you post on this board, but these are either ours or someone else's, and if they are ours, wtf is going on, and if they're someone else's why aren't we doing something about it? Because we're presently looking pretty impotent. Where I personally get annoyed is the condescending "it's clearly mass dilusion!" crowd, posted by a bunch of folks who I am quite confident are not clinical psychologists. And on the contrary, occam's razor signifies that the most likely event is probably the answer. I'd posit that hundreds of reports, many from qualified witnesses like pilots, military etc., plus corraborating statements from people who have received classified briefings plus leaked statements from the military regarding incursions in Langely probably signifies they're seeing something. Occam's Razor lends me to support that rather than a bunch of wannabe scientists (or even worse, lawyers! 😃) reading Mick West on Twitter and telling everyone how stupid they are.

I genuinely don't understand the debunkers flocking to this story. Unknown drone traffic harrasses our mlitary bases and shuts down runways at aiports, and we've arrested chinese nationals in this country legally for using drones to spy on our military installations. At first these idiots were just misidentifying the same airplanes landing at the same airport that has been going on for years. Oh wait, there ARE some drones? Well of course there are a couple. That's to be expected. People on both sides are concerned and demanding answers. This isn't pizza-gate, and posting self congratulatory videos of obvious fakes isn't impressive or convincing. Cherry picking a few morons on Twitter is incredibly easy and helps absolutely no one. Is it a case of mass panic? I'd be more inclined to entertain that if there weren't so many reports of this impacting military installations, both domestic and abroad. I think there's a very real possibility we're witnesses the deployment of new drone tech. I understand being skeptic, but I'm inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to state governors and others who have received confidential information expressing concern, especially when coupled with the volumes of witness testimony (which you can absolutely toss out 80%+ of, but it's the 20% everyone is interested in). But I get that a few of you read a couple of twitter threads and now feel resolute in your views. Oh, and fuck Donald Trump.

News came out today that Wright Patterson Airforce Base was partially shut down on Friday due to unknown drones.

Please refer to the articles I referenced. It's not just a bunch of soprano's rejects in New Jersey that are seeing these. Balloon technology is old as time, but its effective. The survelience equipment itself was quite advanced. We also know next to nothing about the balloon that was shot down in Alaska. I generally agree with this. But I don't think China (for example) is above thumbing its nose and making a point to an incoming Trump administration. Just because we (civilians) don't know that X nation state has Y technology, doesn't mean that the US government doesn't know, and also doesn't mean that China doesn't know that the US government knows. The US cannot afford another region in the world heating up, and I think it makes complete sense for the feds to downplay this publicly and deal with it privately if they thought it was China. And I've yet to see anyone serious making "extrodinary claims". It's more along the lines of "hey, there's shit over our airbase and impacting our sensitive military installations" and that it seems concerning that we seem powerless to do anything about it. Yes there are nutjobs going on about it because they can pin it on Biden, but broken clocks are right twice a day and there is concerning substance here. This should be an entirely apoltical issue. Can he legally release classified information from a presidential briefing as president elect? I genuinely don't know. He apparently put up a tweet that he thinks the US government knows what it is (which I tend to agree with). To be clear, Trump can go fuck himself.

These drones cased Langely for 17 days, a US military base in Germany, chased a coast gaurd boat, and US and UK bases in the UK. We haven't been able to do a thing about it, but we are assured its "not a threat." Now, there are dozens and dozens of credible reports from people like police agencies, pilots, and emergency responders in New Jersey. The governor and New Jersey senators are furious, the senate is damanding answers, and there are active discussions about shooting these down over US airspace. I also remind everyone that we shot down three highly advanced spy ballons. So I get that everyone immediately connects this to UFOs and thinks its automatically stupid, but to suggest that everyone is misidentifying the entirely new phenomeon of planes landing is absurd. I personally find the concept of swarms of drones, small planes, etc. flying unidentified over our territory for weeks as concering and potentially representative of an adversary thumbing a technological advancement in our face. Ignoring warning signs and downplaying things is how ended up with 9/11.

I refuse to give Fox News a click, but their reporter absolutely let Kirby have it yesterday. All of the BS he spewed at the press conference went down in flames pretty quickly.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that the US government looked into the US government's response and determined that the US government is doing a great job. They've given conflicting messages on this, including in briefings to senators, and Kirby got raked over the coals later in this briefing. And if you listen to his response, his denial is pretty carefully and narrowly worded - e.g., "many" have been identified as aircraft (how many is "many"? the majority? how many have you not been able to identify?) and we haven't corroborated any "visual" sightings of "drones" (have they been corroborated in other ways?). All the lawmakers getting briefings on this seem to be awfully concerned, including Corey Booker, who is a serious person. Of course some people are misidentifying things and the concept of a "mothership" seems absurd, but it seems beyond doubt that *something* is going on and invading our airspace for a month and we haven't been able to do a single thing about it.

If drones were flying all around our cities and military installations for weeks without impunity (as it seems virtually certain there have been), do you actually think we'd do nothing? We are presently doing nothing and seem to be downplaying it to the best of our abilities. So I think we know what they are, for better or worse.

That was a fade?

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He’s a gun slinger and PK is going to fool him. Just got to make the pick when it comes.

Quinn isn’t the problem here at all. We’re wasting a good Quinn day.