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If you are talking economic value, LSU drops down to the mid-tier. And Missouri drops to the low tier. In football, things I've seen rank Missouri only ahead of UK and Vandy.

I think college football is a far superior product. All the NFL has is more talent. That doesn't necessarily make for entertaining games. In fact, it decreases it. The talent disparity is what allows for explosive plays.

Looking at the Big 10 TV deal. They've got 3 prime OTA windows. I don't see how adding more schools (unless they are a ratings juggernaut like ND) doesn't just dilute value. You can't create a 4th prime window. The NFL already has Sunday (and Monday and they're taking over Thursday). 10:30 is too late for the east coast. Friday is a poor night for TV viewing.

I like the quarterfinals on the traditional NYD. But yes, homefield advantage for 1st round.

RIP. Johnny Unitas was my favorite back then. When he passed I felt it. The Colts were my favorite team for a while. I lived in Kentucky and there were no Bengals then. I saw a Houston Chronicle sportswriter who grew up in Waco write an article and felt the same way. It was kind of an era. Len Dawson was part of that era.

https://www.750thegame.com/listen-brett-mcmurphy-talks-cfb-on-the-bft/ McMurphy on Big 10 expansion. He's saying Big 10 + 4 in the west is very likely.

Ask and ye shall receive. Maybe somebody in the TV world or Big 10 read your post! https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/SB-Blogs/Newsletter-Media/2022/08/22.aspx "If Notre Dame joins the Big Ten within the next seven years, CBS, Fox and NBC know exactly how much extra they will have to pay in rights fees. That specific dollar figure, which is not publicly known, is spelled out in the contracts. No other school is mentioned in these deals by name, and the contracts don’t assign a dollar figure to any other school that may join the conference, according to several sources. Notre Dame is the only school that has specific language about escalators. If, say, the Big Ten adds two West Coast teams, the networks have agreed to have good-faith conversations with the conference about opening their deals and adjusting their rights fees. But the specific increases are not spelled out in the contract language, I’m told. Having a specific number attached to Notre Dame provides the conference and the Fighting Irish with some certainly for the value of their rights if the Irish do decide to join the Big Ten...."

The rare college football fan who follows soccer?! I think its mainly G5 fans who promote the idea. the idea should be relegated to the trash heap.

If you don't want to read, its usually SEC #1, but Big 10 was #1 in 2021. Big 12 #3, ACC/Pac 12 #4/5, AAC not that far behind, then MWC, then everyone else. With realignment factored in after the P2, its ACC nBig12/Pac 10 even ACC minus FSU, Clemson old AAC ACC minus FSU, Clemson, Miami new AAC a good bit behind MWC just behind The rest

Nobody knows and nobody knows exactly what it says. At least not anybody who is talking. https://sicem365.com/s/13021/how-do-the-conferences-stack-up-in-television-viewers Baylor blogger does a deeper dive into conferences TV results. Definitely some interesting graphs.

I think it comes down to recruiting. Can they recruit at the top level playing ACC schools and their indie schedule? I think they eventually decide they can't.

Maybe simply OU-Arkansas and LSU-Florida replacing OU-Florida and Arkansas-LSU. You're still left with Mizzou-S. Carolina.

Looks like a pretty good effort. Those latter two are the only ones that aren't important. UK-South Carolina, LSU-Florida and Arkansas-Mizzou or Arkansas-OU might make more sense, but you are left with Missouri and/or Oklahoma still needing games, so you would have to mess with the rest of the schedules. Mizzou always causes problems.

CBS isn't giving up the SEC. They negotiated with the Big 10 to only take 7 games in 2023 instead of 14. That still changes in 2024. That's when the most likely move to the SEC is.

"“...I think being more national means who we strategically align with,” Yormark told the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal. “Potential scheduling partnerships with other conferences, looking at some of our tentpole events and saying, do we do something more creatively with them from a location point of view? I think there’s lots of things we can do, and I’m exploring every and all option right now.” Yormark was then asked about his “open for business” comments at Big 12 Media Days and how those were received. “It’s been received, I think, in a very positive way,” Yormark said. “‘Open for business’ doesn’t mean just expansion, where I think some people read into it that it was very much focused on expansion. That’s not necessarily the case. When I say ‘open for business’, it means that this conference is no longer going to be stagnant. We’re going to be very proactive. We’re going to explore and identify any and all opportunities that create value in every respect. Is expansion a part of ‘open for business’? A hundred percent. But it’s only a small piece.” Finally, when asked what his ideal number of members for the Big 12 was, Yormark danced around the question a bit but held strong on his “additive” view of expansion. “I haven’t really looked at that the numbers,” Yormark said. “As I said during media day, it can’t be dilutive. It needs to be additive, and it comes down to making sure that we’re identifying the right strategic partners from a school perspective, and those that bring value to our conference. We’ll be at 12 in a couple of years when you add the four [Brigham Young, Central Florida, Cincinnati and Houston] and Texas and Oklahoma leave. If it’s 16 or 20 I can’t tell you, but we just have to make sure that whatever number it is, it’s all about the value equation...."” Yormack interviewed in Lubbock: https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2022/08/19/new-big-12-commissioner-brett-yormark-confirms-expansion-is-part-of-his-plans/

TCU and WVU had a 4 year buy-in, 50%, 67%, 87%. From 2012-3 to 2014-5, they got $22 million less than the full members. If the Big 10 takes further Pac members, I suspect they will get the Maryland treatment.

Don't have the numbers for Maryland and Rutgers every year, but: 2014-15 Full 32 million, Maryland 24.5 (better than UNL), Rutgers 10 2017-18 Full 54 million, Maryland 26.1, Rutgers 11.7

Some pretty serious BS there. Guessing you must be another Big 10 fan defending the hypocrisy. USC and UCLA come in at a full share. Texas A&M and Missouri came in at a full share to the SEC. Nebraska Full B10 Cumulative 11-12 14 24.6 -10.6 12-13 15.4 25.9 -21.1 13-14 16.9 28 -32.2 14-15 18.7 32 -45.5 15-16 22 34.8 -58.3 16-17 36.3 36.3 -58.3 17-18 54 54 -58.3 18-19 55.6 55.6 -58.3 19-20 54.3 54.3 -58.3 20-21 44.2 44.2 -58.3 Nebraska Big 12 Assumed Tier 3 Cumulative exit fee 9.2 -9.2 11-12 14 19 5 -19.2 12-13 15.4 22 5 -30.8 13-14 16.9 23 5 -41.9 14-15 18.7 25.6 5 -53.8 15-16 22 30.4 5 -67.2 16-17 36.3 34.8 5 -70.7 17-18 54 35.1 5 -56.8 18-19 55.6 38.8 5 -45 19-20 54.3 37.7 5 -33.4 20-21 44.2 34.5 5 -28.7

Its unreal how many people follow the NFL closely because of gambling or fantasy football.

So Flugaur takes care of his elderly parents, living in their basement?

No. They love getting full fees on BTN in NY and NJ. And they love going there so Michigan, Ohio St., etc.. can connect with their rich NY alums. Plus, its an easy win most times. And RU and MD came in just 3 years before the new deal. Nebraska added a full share just from allowing the Big 10 to play a ccg, let alone all the rest.

Nebraska had to pay nearly $60 million in entrance fees. Maryland was much bigger. Rutgers was huge. There were a couple of years where they were getting $43 million less than the full members. Nebraska would have been, with Tier 3 (assuming $5-$7 million similar to OU), probably $70-80 million better if they simply stayed in the Big 12 until 2017. They would still be $30-$50 million behind even with full membership for the last 5 years. Next time one of those Big 10 people talks about how equal the Big 10 is,....

You're about the only one who doesn't. Auburn and Tennessee have MNCs in the BCS era. Ole Miss, Miss. St., Missouri and South Carolina all have top 10 finishes in the last decade and they are the bottom part of the conference. All time winning %-Big 10 5 in top 25-#1 OSU, #5 MI, #8 USC, #9 NU, #10 PSU. SEC 9 in top 25, #2 AL, #6 OU, #7 UT, #11 TN, #13 UGA, #14 LSU, #19 FL, #20 Auburn, #25 aggy.

Jason Scheer @jasonscheer · 55m Double sided comment, but again, everybody wants to stay. It just comes down to whether or not ESPN makes it worth it. Also, there’s no world that exists where you’re getting an honest answer about other possible movement Jason Scheer @jasonscheer · 3h Realignment is cool and all, but I need the college football season to start like tomorrow. Jason Scheer Retweeted Bob Thompson @rltsports · 4h Interesting. Never seen a clause for additional members that had a specific dollar attached to it already. Seems rather unusual to me but anything is possible. Maybe Warren is waiting to get home from the Rose Bowl meetings before he puts another knife in Kliavkoff’s back.

Jason Scheer @jasonscheer · 9h FYI, the AD isn’t Dave Heeke or Ray Anderson. Quote Tweet John Canzano @johncanzanobft · 9h Pac-12 AD says conference is "Now at the plate... energized." Plus: • Why the Big Ten signed a 7-year deal. • Exploring escalator-clause hype. • Apple and Amazon as Pac-12 bidders ie, its not the Arizona or Arizona St. ADs saying the Pac is energized. Canzano seems to get a lot from the Washington St. AD. Fittingly, Washington St. is probably going to become the Crimson & Gray window Cougars, replacing the red and blue window cougars.