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There are a lot more shitty dregs in the Big 10, especially in the west (not that conferences are likely to keep divisions). And the middle of the SEC is much stronger than the Big 10. That is, stronger than the Big 10's middle.

The SEC DOES have a profit sharing arrangement with ESPN. Its probably similar to UT's in the LHN (except that they might actually hit the target). If profits are over X, conference gets a share of that.

There's an article in the SBJ saying the SEC will average $710 million on their 10 years deals starting in 2024. That is about $51 million a school. I don't think that includes the $10 million or so they make on the SECN and it doesn't include UT and OU. There hasn't been anything authoritative on their latest contract revisions so I don't know how they come up with that $710 million. Various reports have the SEC is getting between $307 and $375 million a year on their Tier I deal with ESPN in 2024 (CBS was paying them $55 million a year-and gave up the bidding on the new deal at $307 million, so we know ESPN is paying at least that). Their Tier II deal was $300 million a year average (it was a 20 year deal to 2034), but that has been re-worked some. The Big 10's current deal is $440 million a year for 14 schools. The new one will be $1 billion to $1.15 billion for 16 schools, so $63 to $70 million per school plus the BTN which is $7-$10 million a school.

In Arizona???? Flagstaff is fine, but you can't stay outside in Phoenix for any length of time.

I played football in JH in Ohio. When I moved to Texas and the JH team was practicing full pads the week before school started in early August in the Houston heat and humidity, I decided that was for the birds. Now it paid off. They won city. And when they got to HS they won nearly as many games when they were sophomores as the school had in its previous 6 year history. And started a tradition. I think they only had one losing season in the next 40 years or so. It would be hard to get recruits from the midwest to Arizona. And probably hard to get them from Florida.

I don't think you can fry eggs on a dashboard in Phoenix in the summer. They would flat out evaporate.

https://www.si.com/college/2022/08/18/big-ten-announces-new-media-tv-rights-deal-kevin-warren "...The agreement with Fox, CBS and NBC comes with this caveat from a Big Ten source: “We are not done expanding.” What that means—in terms of timetable, potential expansion targets and the overall stability of college athletics—was left unsaid. It could be posturing to keep the rival Southeastern Conference and others off-balance, or it could be an indication, as Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren said in July, that further national realignment could come within the next few years, well before this new deal ends with the 2029–30 athletic calendar...."

Brett McMurphy said "Realignment talk not going away." Although the actual quote was "...the Big Ten is not done expanding, sources told Action Network..."

$7-$8 billion. They were saying $1.25 billion per year or more, so its lower than the leaks. That is $1 billion to $1.14 billion. Still really B$G.

Colorado was a power 20 years ago. Now they don't draw much attention. Their TV numbers are near the bottom of the Pac 12. But they have been really bad. Minnesota won 4 MNCs from 1936-1960. But starting late 60s they became really bad. They haven't won a Big 10 title since 1967. Who now knows that Minnesota was once a power? Nebraska and Miami still haven't been really bad. But Nebraska's shine is starting to fade. 20 years since they were really good and a dozen years since they were good. Miami still has the "U" brand. Along with Miami Beach. Whenever they look good, people still pay attention.

Its more like Fox owns the Mouse. Fox's main owner, Murdoch, is probably Disney's biggest shareholder now. They are not going to go scorched earth on each other.

aggy didn't really hurt UT and OU. It was Alabama and Georgia and Clemson and Ohio St. who were getting the blue chips. aggy did what they normally did with a good recruiter. Until last year when they opened the checkbook. And Texas and Texas A&M beat out the Alabamas, Georgias, Clemsons and Ohio St.s.

And Texas lead 8-2-1 in the 11 years before that. Its always been a series of streaks. Before that OU won 4 straight. Before that it was UT 5-2-2. Then OU 5 straight. Then UT 12 out of 13....

Note they also finally realized the egotistical conference commissioners had left too much money on the table and they want to evaluate expanding the playoff 2 years early.

OU has won 4 straight. Before that the series was even since 1976. And even since 1946. Overall we are +12. Its always been a series of streaks.

Exactly.

Well they did get left behind in 1959 when UW and the 4 California schools seceded. They left Oregon, Oregon St., Washington St. and Idaho behind. But they eventually invited the first 3 to join them back.

What do you mean? We aren't even halfway to 1,000 pagse. Seems to me the number on Shaggy was 1,306 before the site was victim of a hostile takeover. In a couple years it will be deja vu. Florida St. and Clemson joining us talk will not go away.

We bring back bigger history with aggy and pig than we lose with the Big 8 schools or Tech and Baylor.

At the same time, they regularly play such schools, even BYU.

ESPN may be paying the Big 12 more for more inventory. As for the holes, someone else pointed out that they have 14 games from the SEC CBS contract and 14 home games for UT and OU which pretty much covers what they lost from The Big 10. Now they still have half of the Pac 12 and Big 12, so they will need to renew those deals. The big hole for ESPN is basketball. I've seen they covered as many as 80 Big 10 basketball games (but haven't seen that verified from a source such as SBJ).

I think the 4 new schools only get a half share at the start.

Well, we are running out of time for 2023. And CBS still has the SEC game of the week in 2023. Newbies arrive in 2023. I think it will be 2024, same as USC and UCLA.

Loftin said the same thing a year after the move in an article in the aggy student paper. He said he decided to wait for the right time after he couldn't do it in 2010. And the reason he did it was for branding. When they did surveys outside the state of Texas, nobody saw any difference between aggy, sand aggy and 3rd ward aggy. He also said he told the other presidents in 2010 that he was committed to the Big 12 "as it existed." In his mind, that meant with Nebraska and Colorado, even though everyone was talking about the Big 12 w/o Nebraska and Colorado. That way he could say he wasn't lying when he said it!!!! aggys are SOOO pathetic.

For those posters a little older than me who may remember better, didn't they cheer him with "Woooo"