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  1. Peripherally related to realignment-recruiting 2022 vs. 2021.  Top 50 in Texas

    2021 Texas 7

    2022 Texas 10 and leading in 3 others

    2021 A&M 9

    2022 A&M 10 and leading in 2 others

    2021 OU 5

    2022 OU 3 and leading on 1 other

    2021 other in state and Big 12 5

    2022 other in state and Big 12 6

    2021 out of state non Big 12 24

    2022 out of state non Big 12 13 and leading in 2 others.

     

    So basically 9 of the top 50 have shifted from schools like Alabama, Ohio St., Oregon and random SEC schools to Texas and aggy.

  2. On 10/18/2021 at 6:44 PM, RomaVicta said:

    Powell claimed that he personally vetted his speech to the UN. Do you really think W and Cheney could steamroll Powell?

    The Iraq War is the worst foreign policy decision/deception of this century. We destroyed a country that was not a threat to us, negligently shoved thousands upon thousands of US military personnel through the grinder of war, slaughtered civilians, and enslaved this country to a massive material cost. 

    You don't callously consign Americans to war through lies and appeals to emotion and come out looking good at the end. Sorry. For all of Powell's notable achievements, getting involved in a useless war is his legacy. 

    Washington Post

    Our war policy is generally stupid, needlessly brutal, and serves little to no benefit to the long term good of the United States.

    Halliburton and other contractors made out nicely, I suppose. Then there's the lost pallets of cash tracked by a company operating out of a suburban house in California that somehow just can't explain where the money went.

    When they tell you we're going to fight a guy as bad as Hitler (again and again and again), check your wallet because it's likely a huge money grab.

    I didn't wish Powell dead. There's a tragic element in such a man being part of such a murderous policy. I won't participate in a eulogy for any leader made filthy by that policy.

     

    We were already at war with Iraq.  They were firing at our planes over Kurdistan every week.  Sooner or later they would hit one and take pilots hostage.  Sadaam had bribed top officials in Russia, Germany and France and so the embargo was disentegrating.  Sadaam was one of the most dangerous and crazy leaders of the last 50 years.  Sanctions were falling apart and oil prices were going up.  A Sadaam with money was very dangerous.  He fired Scuds at Israel.  He gassed the Kurds.  He wasn't like Qaddafi who behaved once Reagan bombed his houses and killed some of his family.  He was a flat out dangerous nut.  Iraq was the right war at the right time even if the intelligence on WMD was garbage.  It was mishandling the peace in the aftermath that cost all the lives.  The war was done flawlessly.  The peace was a disaster.  Nation building was a disaster.  Promoting sectarian differences was a disaster.  Then Obama pretended none of those problems existed and let ISIS take over 1/3 of Iraq and 1/2 of Syria.  Once the war was over there were mistakes aplenty for years.

  3. On 10/18/2021 at 11:52 AM, hobbes2702 said:

    Yea what the fuck. He wasn’t duped. He lied to the world and it cost thousands of people their lives.

    Fuck cancer and RIP but we shouldn’t pretend about him simply because he passed.

    Nobody lied about WMD.  They thought it was true and so they honestly believed really flimsy questionable evidence, like all the idiots who believed Trump colluded with Russia, called white supremacists good people at Charlottesville, bad mouthed dead soldiers and all the other idiotic stuff many of you believed.

  4. 59 minutes ago, YouLoveMyPenises said:

    While I give less than zero shits about Conference Sun Ball USA, I do wonder now that there about a million moving parts, somebody's gonna say something to their wife who will tell their friend, who'll blurt out on Twitter when the fuck we're out of this busted ass conference.

    Not yet!!!  Bowlsby is still claiming 2025.  AAC members dates are "to be determined."  Still don't know if UH, Cincy and UCF move in 2023 or 2024.

  5. https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/college-football-conference-realignment-scenarios-sun-belt-conference-usa

    McMurphy chiming in.  "The wild, wacky, wonderful world of conference realignment that started with Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC has come down to this: a tug of war, Battle Royale loser-leaves-town deathmatch between the Sun Belt and Conference USA over Marshall, Old Dominion and James Madison...."

    McMurphy rates the Sun Belt the likely winner.

  6. 3 hours ago, 'stache said:

    A lot of recency bias here. Yeah, Sunbelt teams have had more football success in recent years. The remaining CUSA schools are still more established in FBS. These facts kind of counter each other. They're all basically the same. Just merge already.

    Agreed.  If you look at out of conference win %, the Sun Belt has had 4 good years (including the last 3).  They have been dead last 12 times and next to last 5 times.

    By contrast, CUSA has been last 3 times (including fluky 2020) and next to last 4 times in that same 21 year period.

  7. 4 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

    CUSA was better, now they are not.  Football rules the roost.  The Sun Belt made good picks in App St, Coastal, and the Georgia schools and over the last few years ULL, ULM, Troy and Arkansas St have had good seasons and statement wins.

    With Rice gone they are all public and after this is over the Sun Belt will take over beach volleyball and CUSA will stop sponsoring men’s soccer and swimming so the Sun Belt will sponsor more sports, have a better TV deal, and more name brands.

    After the AAC defections:

    Avg Enrollment:

    CUSA: 23,617

    SBC: 23,094

    Avg Endowment (million):

    CUSA: 169.93

    SBC:  151.86

    App State, Coastal, Georgia Southern moving to CUSA would all lower these numbers.  Only Georgia State would increase the average endowment/enrollment of CUSA.

    Take out Georgia State and FIU (both with 50K+ enrollment) from the calculations and the Sun Belt has a higher enrollment avg, though CUSA still has a higher endowment avg.

    The point is that the conferences are extremely similar and the Sun Belt has better football and TV money/exposure so the Sun Belt is in a far better position.

    Sun Belt schools are pretty small except for Georgia State, Texas State and UTA.  Those significantly drive up the average.

  8. 5 hours ago, 'stache said:

    This. CUSA is more established. Sunbelt has been primarily promoting FCS teams. As I've said before, there are too many FBS teams already. And any league that takes Liberty is dead to me.

    Agreed.  Only 107 of the 130 FBS teams were around in 1995.  Only 116 in 2005.  And 13 of the 14 adds have been in the south and 19 of the last 23 adds.

  9. This is all moving so fast, its going to be hard to take this version of CR talk not going away to 1000 pages!  At least not for a few years.  Maybe we've got the Huggins comments and breakaway to talk about.

    Interesting that Bowlsby talked about a 48 team loose affiliation, meaning 21 P5 schools get relegated.

  10. 1 hour ago, Laxtonto said:

    Better question is did ESPN order a hit on CUSA and the conferences are following orders or ESPN just realized once the balls were in motion that they could capitalize on their market position by incentivizing their other leagues under contract to keep expansion going knowing it would kill the CUSA.

    Probably the 2nd, but we all know that the scenario 1 was already under consideration and talk through and they just let the media consultants facilitate as a middle man.

    Like a good crime family, nothing will be directly provable with the media consultant  buffer, but all the other leagues will know don’t fuck with the mouse or you are getting whacked…

     

    Sure sounds like it.  CUSA is just better than Sun Belt other than football strength the last 3 years.  The CUSAR8 have better attendance in football and basketball, much better basketball, much better non-rev sports, they are bigger schools and better funded in better markets.  CUSA raiding Sun Belt just makes more sense.

  11. Seems like all the conferences did their expansion homework except for CUSA and Pac 12.  They got caught flat footed.  Bowlsby at least knew who he would add.  It was a quick process.  Pac 12 seemed to be starting from scratch.  CUSA was asking people to trade teams with them.

  12. 7 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    I would define stability by teams not leaving, not by teams not joining. 

    Well the only teams who have left the MAC were short-timers-Marshall, UCF, Temple, UMass.  And UMass was asked to either join fully or get out.  Marshall was the only one who left who was a full member.

    ACC has only lost Maryland since 1969, but they've got 7 new members in the last 15 years of their 15 members.  That's not stable.

  13. There's also some stuff out of Nashville implying that WKU and MTSU are talking to the MAC.  So we're getting some conference realignment MACtion.

    They haven't added anyone since UMass in 2012 and Temple in 2007.  UMass left in 2016 and Temple in 2012.  And every current MAC member has been in the conference since at least 1998.  They're the most stable conference.

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  14. https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-predictions-second-chance-expert-picks-for-2021-champion-playoffs-and-more/

    Remember when realignment moved at a snail's pace?

    Probably not good that people are reacting instead of thinking things through carefully, but...

     

    "The Sun Belt and Conference USA are both exploring expansion possibilities as the American Athletic Conference appears poised to soon become a 14-team league, sources tell CBS Sports' Dennis Dodd.

    The Sun Belt is targeting Southern Miss, Marshall and Old Dominion from Conference USA along with FCS James Madison, as first reported by Yahoo Sports' Pete Thamel.

    Conference USA believes it can add James Madison and FBS independent Liberty inside of the next two weeks if details can be worked out, sources tell Dodd. Should C-USA succeed with those additions, it's believed Marshall and Old Dominion would be apt to stay in a nine-team league with C-USA only losing Southern Miss...."

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  15. 1 hour ago, Laxtonto said:

    Many of those in the MWC blame UTEP for some of the issues regarding the demise of the WAC 16 over their instances on certain scheduling demands and other internal political stuff..

    The split of the WAC and MWC screwed over a lot of schools and those that are in the MWC now are repaying UTEP in spades..

    I don't dislike UTEP, but I can also not fault some of the MWC schools (like Fresno St) for having a long institutional memory about these things.

    Are any of those people still around?  

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