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  1. I would also say that while we are discussing mental illness/wellness that I am partaking in some wonderful self-care on 125th just sitting by the ACP statue listening to these folks play the drums. The rhythm is soothing and peaceful. So glad to get to hear this again. Find something small like this for yourself when you have free time or someone you know that needs a mental break. The little positives can add up quickly.


     

     

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  2. 1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

    These folks are chronically homeless and mentally ill, and rather than taking spaces in shelters, which isn't good for them or anyone else, they need to be in mental hospitals or facilities with people trained to deal with them.  Somewhere where a lot of the triggers of the big city would not be within reach.  So you and I are on the same page there.  And quite frankly, I believe the taxes we already pay to the state and city should be enough to provide for that.  There is a shitload of pork and waste in the NY State and City budget (see the MTA and how it is run).

    However, some of this needs to be funded by the feds as well.  Of course, there is some serious changes that need to be done to the laws of this country by the federal government as well.  This needs to be first, a federal solution.  

    I am for working on solutions that can stop folks from ever getting to this point as well. However, for those people who are already in dire need we HAVE to do better. We cannot keep turning our backs on folks who desperately need a helping hand. 
     

    Federally it would take legislation. I’ll go ahead and just assume that not one single death cult congressperson or senator will sign onto such a bill because their sole job is to sit this legislative session out. We need comprehensive mental illness laws in this country. I would call it something along the lines of “For the Mental Wellness of the People Act.” This is where it would go sideways because I want mental health professionals to be able to be accessed by any American citizen. You may not be getting a 1000 dollar an hour psychiatrist to sit across from you, but we all need regular access to some form of therapy and mental wellness. That requires a tax increase. I am for that because we live in a society. I think if you take care of the mind you can positively influence a person’s direction in life. The cost of not doing this leads to the high incarceration rates we have. 

    I am for having a brand new system in place and to have facilities built. This should be bare minimum type stuff. @956 Worldwide made some excellent points a little while ago in this thread. We cannot return to an asylum style system. This has to be something setup that helps those in need and not a place where families deposit their relatives and never come back for them.  @washparkhorn also makes great points about the overall hustle and bustle of city life. If we can safely take these folks out into a setting away from the city to help them and rehabilitate their mind in as peaceful and serene setting as possible, cool. Let’s get together as a society, well the segments who want to help, and let’s do our part to bring about positive change.

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  3. 1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

     

    I disagree.  I do not think these people need to be in the city at all unless they are living with caretakers.  The city, in a lot of cases, can cause the behavior to become worse.  There are too many things that can trigger these folks. For those that become violent, putting them back in the city isn't the solution.  And I think responsibility for these folks rises above the NYPD.  It is the responsibility of the state of New York.

    Where would you have these people sent? We have quite literally thousands and thousands of people in the city who are homeless who are also mentally ill. I have seen some violent behavior from those folks. It is not a pretty sight watching an adult unable to realize what they are saying and doing. We cannot just put them on buses and ship them upstate somewhere. 
     

    I want more health professionals on the payroll for the city and a couple thousand less officers. I am willing to listen to any ideas you have about where these folks can live. If it is a long-term care facility that specializes in mental illness that is staffed by professionals and not people there earning a little above 15 an hour just to clean their beds and make sure they are fed I would be up for a tax hike on funding new facilities. Anything that can help our fellow human beings that are suffering mentally is worth the investment. It does not mean though that there should not be consequences for the beatings that have taken place. I am 100 percent against physical violence at all times. It is never the answer.

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  4. 27 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

    Our efficiency fetish in management is making humans expendable.

    The savings from decreased labor costs result in a widening wealth gap, as the financial markets extract the wealth created by reducing the expense of human labor. 

    The bigger problem? Our national economy is reliant on consumer (human) spending. A hollowed out middle-class impacts consumer spending and money velocity in the system as a whole. Centrally-planned capitalism (China) enters the void to profit from our weakening middle and working classes. 

    TLDR - the Chinese are using capitalism to kick our ass, as we continue to hollow out the working and middle classes via increases in efficiency through our current model of corporate management. Self-inflicted and likely a crushing wound to America's dominant status in the world.  

    Something that comes to mind is a show on Prime called The Expanse. Most of the country, and world, no longer work and are given what amounts to a living allowance. Going down this path will not be a fun one, but we are in certain ways trending that direction with a sizable chunk of our population. We should be using this time to re-train workers for new jobs in emerging sectors of the economy. That should absolutely be a priority of this administration, as well as those that follow over the next 15 years, at a minimum. 

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  5. Dermot Shea says in that article that he wants the mental illness of people who are in and out of the system addressed. Okay, cool. Let’s take about 2000 officers off the payroll and hire therapists and psychiatrists in their place to give these people the continuing help they need mentally. Lest anyone think this would create a shortage of officers to respond to violent crime, anyone who lives here can tell you how we have officers who are standing around at subway stops on their phones like they are off work. I am looking at two of them right now at a stop in The Bronx at Morris Park that does not have issues, ever. NYPD can make the decision on their own to do this or eventually it will be done for them.

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  6. On 3/29/2021 at 3:02 PM, wildcat09 said:

    If we could resurrect some of them they'd be appalled that we pay so much deference to their views (or more accurately, what we say their views were), and then they'd see a modern bathroom and probably have a brain aneurysm. 

    I think the aneurysm would come when they saw a black man or woman walk past them that was as free to move about as anyone else. 

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  7. 7 minutes ago, SHOOTER12 said:

    Should have moved up to the Eastside Mr. Jefferson

    Ha. I’m good with El Barrio.  Kinda cool walking past that building occasionally because it brings the show to mind. I wonder how many folks know he spent the last twenty odd years of his life living a simple and quiet one in El Paso. I had a friend some years back who remembered him living in her neighborhood and she said he would just walk to the grocery store and was nice to everyone.

  8. 5 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

    Douchebaggery

    Honestly I think that is about what would be expected from him. Doesn't matter because what an amazing game that was. I have never really had much issue with UCLA's basketball program. They have had some of the most enjoyable teams I have watched in my lifetime and while it is not a fun night for you, y'all definitely left everything you had on that court. It took every last thing the Zags had in the tank to pull that one off and I hope America's Team wins on Monday night so that this instant classic isn't just a footnote. I was trying to write a paper so I was going back and forth to the game on my laptop, but everything I saw was great to get to watch. Great run by your Bruins. Time to hope our favorite pro basketball team finishes the job when the time comes in the playoffs! 

  9. 1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

    They are perfect representatives for these people.  Deplorables.  There has never been a better descriptor.  

    I look at how they got to this point as a political party/death cult and it is still incredible to look at how it reached this point. There is a confluence of many different things and people who got millions of our fellow citizens to support these people. The never-ending hate machine propaganda from people like Limbaugh, Mark Levin and Hannity combined with fear-mongering, targeting the “others” because of their race and skin color and no real positive value system is a big piece of the puzzle.

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  10. 2 hours ago, 406W30th said:

    Imagine being more upset about an exhibition game changing venues than Jim Crow-style voter suppression.

     

    I think this could end it right here. The mindset of a human being who is angry over a game that has no meaning versus completely ignoring what Georgia is doing with their elections takes a level of cognitive dissonance that I cannot fathom ever having. 

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  11. 2 hours ago, horn4life said:

    I liked Biden on his quick addressing of Republican "oppose everything" strategy.  He simply called out the last 4 years of "infrastructure weeks" and how nothing came out of it. 

     

    President Biden and the administration seem to be doing this on almost everything that Senator McConnell and Co. opposed for the last umpteen years. 

    Progress is a good thing. It'll come at a cost monetarily, but the cost of inaction will be more. Keep the bills coming and keep McConnell on the bench where he belongs at after doing nothing to help anyone in this country during his time as Senate Majority Leader.

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  12. 3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Hawaii?  Could she possibly be this stupid?

    Rhetorical question.

    Can someone that uses Twitter send a reply to Governor Noem and include several of the F around and find out emoji? She seems like she might need some of them.

  13. 1 hour ago, workswithseed said:

    Laughter can at times be a sign of how someone reacts when they feel nervous. This seems to be an internal mechanism that Vice-President Harris has for that. I can relate to it because there are times in my life where I have laughed when I was nervous as well as in some other situations where it seemed like the laughter came out almost as an instant reaction that was involuntary. Some of her laughter seems to be involuntary. I believe we have some people who are therapists and psychiatrists who can explain this more in-depth.

    I’m not real sure why her laughing seems to be a way used to make fun of her though. If there are some actual policy positions she holds that deserve ridicule or scorn let’s hear them. 

  14. Dear Senator McConnell,

    Your desk in the senate is over there. You can have a nice front row seat to continued legislation being passed that helps your constituents. You have chose to fight this legislation yet have no say in it becoming the law of the land. Luckily for America your objections to progress and positive change for society as a whole are as powerless as Chris Davis swinging a baseball bat. 
     

    Sincerely,

    Everyone you have ever stepped on in your life to get to the spot you now occupy.

    PS The pasture is that way. Enjoy it.

  15. Anything that we can do to help those who cannot help themselves is something we should not even think twice about. I am not real particular about what bill it is included in. Get these folks some help and make the years they have left as good as humanly possible.

  16. 27 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

    Watch your ass.

    Edit.

    Yeah, i better edit.

    My first ex is in Longview at last check.

    She doesn't have a pot to piss in. I can't help her. I tried. 

    I don't know anything about her. But, I know enough about you on here that it concerns me you might get hurt.

    Keep your wits.

     

    I understand the concern here and thank you for that. I won’t pay for her to fly here or back and I will not monetarily support her. She is going to have to figure all of that out on her own. She has a lot of fences to mend with people from what I gather talking to her younger sister. My hope is that when she goes back to Texas that she goes to live with her sister in San Antone and spends a year sorting through life. 

    I do not believe she can be on her own anymore. I can’t save anyone, but I feel the least I can do is talk with her and try to show her what life is like when you have a purpose. She’s highly intelligent which is a good trait she shares in common with her mother so I know she is capable of better. Whether she makes the choice to do better though is one I cannot make for her. 
     

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  17. Recently I had told a cousin that I would give her a call and talk to her. She's 30 now and honestly I had not really spoke to her at any length for probably 15 years. She got married young just like her mother did and had kids, just like her mother did and then wound up seeing her personal life look almost exactly like her mother's personal life looked. She remarked that she never wanted to repeat her mom's mistakes, but she did almost to a T. Her mother was incredibly kind to me and almost everyone else she knew, but she had issues like all of us do.

    We talked last night for about three hours. She had a meeting with CPS today and they said they are recommending that her children's father be given sole custody. I told her to prepare for that happening because of the choices she has made in her life. She has hit rock bottom and she is now taking on the challenge of sobriety while being isolated from her children and not having a mother to talk to either. She has two siblings and I suggested that she call them and try to forge a better relationship with them. I also told her that she is welcome to come to NYC for a bit and I would help get her started down the road of living a better life. She will also be doing some intensive outpatient therapy back in Waco whenever she leaves here. I think she will be flying in next week and staying for at least a week. I have quite a bit going on, all good things on my end with school and preparing for some things for my summer training, but I need to make time for a family member that is hurting and needs some positive direction.

    I hope the rest of y'all are enjoying your day and that you are getting some beautiful weather in your neck of the woods.

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