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Posts posted by UpperWestside
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3 minutes ago, Enchubben said:
Ha! More tolerance! You’re making my point for me.
I don’t follow, the Koch brothers are responsible for covid deaths? And that seems logical and sane to you?
Those two threw hundreds of millions into helping people get elected who willingly went along our soon-to-be ex-president and all of his lunacy when it came to a lack of any coherent plan to combat the spread of COVID. Indirectly their money played a role in setting up this crazy town of anti-science hysteria. Their money helped create this ridiculous administration. They did not create it on their own with their money because as we all know only George Soros wields that kind of power.
They did do a lot of damage with the money they put into politics. The one still alive is either having a come to Jesus moment this week about what they did or he’s just trying to stay relevant by being contrite about how harmful they have been to American politics.
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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:
SpoilerAccording to three people familiar with the situation, the hotline was inundated for nearly a week by crank callers impersonating public figures such as Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani, anti-Trump callers launching into vulgarity-laden tirades, pranksters making sounds of flatulence, and others issuing threats of physical violence at the lower- and mid-level Trump 2020 staffers.
For every three or four hours of threats and pranking endured, staff estimated that they’d get roughly one caller with an earnest, maybe-promising tip. This was done against the backdrop of a re-election campaign that virtually all of them knew was over and defeated. The search for “FRAUD,” they knew, would not actually stop Biden’s presidency from commencing.
After hours stuck on tip-line duty, staff would often leave looking visibly upset, worn out, and feeling undervalued. One staffer told The Daily Beast they had to go to the bathroom at least twice over the last few days just to cry because of the sheer volume of abusive phone calls.
“It’s misery. It’s one of the worst ways to end a campaign that you could think of,” this person said. Some staff had started getting aggressive with the prank callers, giving fake names and arguing or yelling back into the landline.
Though these Trump campaign hands exhaled a heavy sigh of relief on Friday as news trickled out that the telephone tip-line would cease operations, the emotional damage had already been done and the insult already layered thickly on top of injury.
The fiasco of Team Trump’s hotline was a perfect microcosm of the ongoing flailing of the president and his senior officials’ efforts to play make-believe that Trump had actually won the election. An effort to obstruct and delay the presidential transition process following a decisive Biden victory in both the popular vote and the Electoral College count has been plagued from the start by an utter lack of seriousness.
The hotline, and what came with it, also represented a fitting coda to President Trump’s unsuccessful bid for a second term, during which a candidate famous for refusing to return the loyalty that he demands from his underlings left numerous staffers who’ve devoted years of their lives to his cause to fend for themselves, as he works to construct an alternate reality.
Some Team Trump staff have talked amongst themselves about filing for unemployment next week, as many contracts were set to expire on Nov. 15 and the campaign undergoes downsizing. Senior officials offered scant guidance about what was coming next, though the human resources department did tell them that many of their campaign emails would soon be shut off. And in keeping with Trump’s delusion of an imminent second term, the situation froze several more senior officials from even offering themselves up as listed references to junior staff scrambling to find another job for fear that they’d get in trouble for aiding with some informal transition.
Earlier this week, CNN reported that an assistant to Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien had yelled at a staff member for printing a résumé at the campaign HQ.
“Instead of throwing staff a life line they’re tying anchors to their feet as they begin to navigate the murky waters associated with massive job turnover throughout Washington, D.C.” one of the sources said.
However, on Friday night, Jason Miller, a senior Trump adviser on the campaign, told The Daily Beast, “We also asked for everyone’s resumes for potential future endeavors.” And Tim Murtaugh, the Trump 2020 communications director, told The Daily Beast that the campaign, while downsizing because it had shifted into “a legal and recount fight” was “retaining appropriate staff to see the post-election process through to the president’s victory.”
As for the hotline, Murtaugh confirmed that there was “verbal abuse” that often included “very sexually graphic language…including physical threats and death threats.”
“That our staffers were able to withstand this in order to hear from voters who had real concerns about the security of the election is a testament to their dedication to the president and his re-election,” he added.
On Friday morning, an email did go out from top staff to others on the team thanking them for their “sacrifices” and calling everyone aboard Team Trump a “family.” The email, which was obtained by The Daily Beast, was signed by senior officials Bill Stepien, Justin Clark, Miller, and Stephanie Alexander.
“[W]e want each of you to know how much we have appreciated your hard work and dedication to President Trump,” the note read. “Each member of this team has made sacrifices in order to participate in this re-election effort, and that will not be forgotten. We also realize today is the last day in the office for many of you, and we want to make sure you are aware that we are here to help you chart out the next phase of your career. We get it. We too have been there before and know how it feels.”
In addition to the email, two senior staffers said that they personally made themselves available to underlings as professional references and offered help in future endeavors.
But one of the three sources described the email and the outreach as “too little too late.”
In recent days, Trump officials had also asked campaign subordinates if they’d be interested in being uprooted to key states such as Nevada and Pennsylvania to assist with the legal challenges and public-relations blitzes that prominent Trump advisers and lawyers have been waging to attack the legitimacy of the election. Several aides have immediately declined the offer of such a transfer, assuming the work would be short-lived, pointless, and yet another obstacle to staffers getting on with their lives.
Through all of this, their candidate has seemed unaware of, or uninterested in, the plight of his foot soldiers. So far, according to knowledgeable sources, there has been no conference call or memo from President Trump thanking staffers for their service and for committing themselves to the fight.
They knew what they were getting into. I say let em crash!
Seriously. You went to work for the worst human being on the planet. And now you’re upset because....he’s acting like the worst human being on the planet. No fucking sympathy.Play stupid games and you get, well, you get this as a job.
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3 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:
meh. a little less bad live. he said the three branches, realized that wasn't right, then couldn't figure out how to say the two chambers of the leg and the executive.
his wwii is way worse.
In print, video clip, on a gigantic sign outside his office for the next six years, whatever. There is zero that is shocking about him saying either of those things. People with a stunted ability to understand history still will associate socialism to nazism. They are not the same thing.
I am just waiting for one of these folks to associate Democrats with North Korea since they officially call themselves “The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.” Might as well go all-in with the demonization of them. That has to be somewhere in their playbook.
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9 minutes ago, Yuk said:
There you go. There is not, and never will be, a human being he will not turn on once his ego is bruised and the narcissism takes over. I just accept that that is who Dotard is. He can spend the rest of his days stealing money from his cult and not all of us like he has done for four years and I am good with that. Obviously I am onboard with Letitia James bringing every state charge forward that she possibly can from money laundering to tax evasion to whatever she wants to nail him to the wall on. Just knowing he will not be in charge anymore in two months is a huge positive step forward.
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16 minutes ago, Homercles said:
VE Day you woulda been worrying about the Japanese, not the Russians.
Why not BOTH?
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15 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:
Umm, Ledge out front shoulda told ya.
Haha. I definitely realize that! Trying to stay positive and believe that enough of our fellow citizens have an overriding goodness in them, or at a bare minimum decency, to allow for the change of administrations to take place peacefully.
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14 minutes ago, RPM said:
Hope and a prayer!
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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:
Actually, it's incredibly dangerous. He feels trapped/cornered -- when you corner an opponent, that opponent will do desperate, irrational things. Dangerous fucking shit. If he feels that he has no viable path forward but to stay in power.....then he will do anything and everything to stay in power.
Again, between now and January 20th is the most dangerous period in American history since the Civil War or Cuban Missile Crisis.
Brisket I know you think in worrisome terms, but the adults in the room, although they appear to be more well hidden at times than the Ark of the Covenant, will restrain and impair his ability to go buck wild on this country and world at large. He will say inflammatory things that will get some mentally unstable folks to attempt to do dumb things, but we will be okay. Just pray for no violent retribution acts come from his words. We need some unity as a country, or something as close as we can get to that.
Please think in positive terms. There is plenty of time going forward to survey the clean-up job in front of Biden’s administration. Right now the American people’s voice was heard at the ballot box (And in turn the electoral as well even though it should be abolished) and democracy lived to see another day.
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10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:
They are such children. My god. Just toddlers really.
Not just toddlers, but alternate reality toddlers. Even children have the ability to recognize when to let go.
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I think that woman from Edwards, CO won her race that represents a district on the Western Slope. I cannot remember her name off-hand. There are several more I am sure.
I want them all tarred and feathered and sent back to elementary school to re-learn basic cognitive skills because this is embarrassing to see adults believing in something so ridiculous.
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2 hours ago, Lobo said:
Wasn't Wednesday the day that Trump was supposed to start arresting people?
I mean, it would have been hard to do that considering he played 27 holes of golf. But you never know.
Serious question---how many official Qanon members really got elected to Congress?
Anyone who got elected to Congress that either believes in Q or even just said they did to get votes needs to be barred from ever stepping foot into The People’s House.
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Moves well under pressure from other politicians. Sees the whole country and doesn’t focus in on one group of constituents. High energy despite being an older prospect, but knows when to tone it down when the situation calls for it. Solid overall with experience a plus in dealing with teammates and foes alike who aren’t on the same page. Definitely corch material after he is done.
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1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said:
Oh great. Now we'll be hearing "Ashokan Farewell" for another 100 years.
Okay, cool. They will get seated and there will be many furrowed brows and racist comments directed at those who get selected. You can count on that.
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1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:
NSIAP
Sheetz gift cards were the best part of that. I still have one of their travel coffee mugs here. Love stopping into their locations in Pennsylvania!
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3 minutes ago, DonkeyCigars said:
If not subscribing to the cult of Trump and worshipping him and thinking he can do no wrong, and instead will say "your usefulness is up, now away with you and I didn't really like you anyways but you were one of the two figureheads remaining from the process we use to choose a champion for a set of ideas/goals/values for American people", then sure.
So you are okay with the judge situation because personally that person aligns with your beliefs. Is that correct?
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8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:
Which has morphed into the lie that not only are we all in this alone, any notion that we live in a society/community where our actions impact others is treated as heresy to be cast out completely. It's insanity. The cult of the individual that has been created isn't just insane and anti-human, it's anti-American.
Read De Tocqueville -- he captured the essence of America at its founding. He LITERALLY wrote about what made America great and unique - and it was our ability and drive to form associations, to work together for a collective good.
Balancing individual liberties with the obvious and human truth that we live in community, and that we all depend on each other and none of us are in this world alone, is how we can thrive as a nation.
And no, not all individuals have a fair shot at "determining their own destiny." As has been stated here eleventy billion times, some people start the race with great training, great shoes, a great diet, and a support team around them. Others start the race malnourished, untrained, barefoot, and alone. In that race.....who are you betting on to finish? Come on, for fuck's sake. Yeah, maybe one of those starving barefoot guys has the greatest human will in history, and ekes out a finish. But the odds are WAY against him. Just like they are WAY in favor of the guy with shoes, training, and a support team.
The American Dream starts with what is actually the first word in our charter document -- WE. I am very successful. I would be an egotistical narcissist liar if I said that my achievements are mine, and mine alone. I had supportive parents. I had great educators. I have had good mentors. I had a public university of the first class educate me. I benefit from a system of laws and rules that helps me succeed and prosper. I have benefited from simple acts of kindness. I have gotten lucky breaks. I have a supportive spouse. "I" have done only a part of what it takes for me to succeed -- "WE" have done a great deal to help me succeed. America's toxic obsession with "me" at the expense of (and outright demonization of) "we" is killing us. Literally, it's killing us. We are dying from secondary effects of loneliness, isolation, and broken communities. The worship of the individual to the exclusion of anything else is the worship of a false god.
This is very well explained. Our national obsession with ourselves above the collective is because millions upon millions of us, Dotard and Biden voters alike, have a toxic shame within us that leads us into making the decisions that have been made as a collective. We solve that problem and then we are making some headway into being who we proclaim to be.
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5 minutes ago, slorch said:
Meh. Always fucking towing around that guilt, bro.
The same system exists for way the fuck more people than you. You put in the work. You made the tough decisions. You made things happen that other people might have been able to... but didn't. You showed up...to work, as a dad, as a husband. These are the decisions and actions that give us personal worth.
There's not a gotdamn thing wrong with owning your results. It's part of being human. Of course you had the other influences, so did others. Why aren't their results the same? It's a rhetorical question, because you don't need to serve up another helping of your hatred for man. Sitting here wishing everyone could have what you have when they aren't willing to put in the investment is just foolish...and impossible. Those who choose to fuck off, harm others, or willing be shitstains own their results too. I don't pity them... I shouldn't have to unwillingly support their asses either.
The Mack Brown philosophy on life everyone! I got mine so who cares about helping those who need it!
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3 hours ago, DonkeyCigars said:
Someone upthread said I sounded like a useful idiot. Maybe I am, I don't know, I'll leave y'all to judge that. But I think DJT is the useful idiot and he delivered the Supreme Court Justices, he's done his job, now out with him.
I won’t call you that, but you are useful to his administration. Your mindset with the judge comment is one that is not helpful to the country as a whole. It is strikingly selfish in tone. I am not certain you care about how that comes across though. Feel free to correct me if you would like to.
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1 hour ago, staboner said:
while I won't talk like that almost ever here - because I find it gross - to vote for trump and say shit like "I wish he would leave" is great and all but shows just a remarkably out of touch fucking view. and that in and of itself is very dangerous.
I have to agree on that mindset. It is one that you would like to see completely gone from this country. To come right out and say what he did, despite a plethora of evidence that that vote ties you to a guy who quite literally would invalidate the election if he could, is not something any of us need to see right now.
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7 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:
Notre Dame has a $14bn endowment, but let’s squeeze a few nickels out of our students and placate our alumni in a raging pandemic.
And that goes for UT and 50+ other schools that are letting fans into the stands.
No matter how much money you have it is never enough. This is not personally my own viewpoint, but we need not look any further than the folks who profited the most during this pandemic to see how that is the case. Nobody should be in the stands at these games, but money motivates people (those running universities especially it seems) to do reckless and dangerous things.
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2 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:
I grew up Catholic. I know plenty about it. Learned from the Jesuits (as did Fr. Jenkins). Which actually makes this all the more shocking to me. A guy who learned from the Jesuits shouldn't exhibit such egregious lapses of judgment.
I don't just think or pre-suppose the answer to his amazing lack of rational judgment in the midst of a pandemic that has killed almost 250k Americans is because he is just making some bad decisions. He went all in with Trump over judges and he knows, as we all do, that the big-time FOOTBAW schools are hurting financially without the money that their programs generate. He also can see the writing on the wall of, as was mentioned upthread by Tuco, that people are not going to spend egregious amounts of money for distance learning from Notre Dame. That isn't how it works. I visited the campus once and it is beautiful. They needed students on-campus even though health-wise it is absolutely insane to have done so. Fr. Jenkins is no different than a CEO at this point. Notre Dame is his business and his business needs money. Jesus stopped being his savior a long time ago. Money took His place and that is not changing for Fr. Jenkins and by extension Notre Dame.
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God is a loving God.
He is also a vengeful God. You decide which one He is being at the moment.
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13 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:
Seriously, as a Latin American (Latin American-American?) please stop using Latinx. So, so dumb.
I cannot say I have ever used it. I heard it said a bunch during the protests I attended in DC and NYC though. If I run across someone, like a guy who stopped me here in my neighborhood to welcome me to El Barrio about 30 minutes ago who is from Mexico, I would refer to him as Mexican (Especially since that is how he referred to himself.)
and a special fuck you to charles koch
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You can look at the breadth of his life and see an empty 85 years. I cannot think of many things sadder for a human being than knowing that their life did not matter in a positive way.