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UpperWestside

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  1. 9 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

    The GOP has no ideas. When that’s where you are, then there’s only one path forward: 1) deny that actual problems even exist (climate change is made up, income inequality is meaningless, etc), 2) create a narrative of things that aren’t really problems, which also conveniently a) demonize those who are likely to be aligned with your political opposition, and b) bolster your contributor base, then 3) make solving those non-problems your entire platform (“brown people are coming to kill you! We need to build a wall, and look extra-hard at the ones living here, because they’re probably sneaky liars! Also, we need a tax cut for rich people to stimulate the economy, because this time it will work and Lucy won’t pull away the football, we promise!”)

    They’re not even clever. Unfortunately, neither is their base, so they fall for it all.

    The Old Glory insurance should be advertised as "Old Glory will protect you and insure you against any ideas or proposals from those evil Socialist Democrats. If you really want to get your first billion you play to their most deep rooted fear of Socialist Democrats running wild in Washington. Best way to part idiots from their money.

  2. 7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Indeed.  There are large numbers of black and hispanic Christians, many Catholics (gasp), who have never supported Trump.  I think that's true of many white mainstream Protestants, many of whom are as liberal as they come.  Despite all the noise they make, "Evangelical" (read congregational "Christians" who just get to make shit up), are not mainstream Protestants.

    I do believe it is wise to understand that different ethnic groups of Christians that belong to various denominations, and many white Christians, do not support Dotard. The sooner the white evangelical block of voters holds no sway in this country the better. Barry Goldwater was before my time, but he understood them really well amd what they were going to do if they got unbridled access to power. I just hope future generations remember what is unfolding right now so this disaster of an administration never exists again in a future iteration.

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  3. 4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Certain strains of "Christianity," yes.  But you are painting with a mighty broad brush.

    White evangelical "Christians" love the clownshow occupying the White House. The least educated portion of our nation want him there. Those are by and large Christians in name only.

  4. Just now, TwiceHorn said:

    Well, again, using Jakes as an example, most of the rich preachers have some sort of church, but it's a church of, by, and for the preacher, and it is, ta da, congregational.  The church is secondary to its pastor.

    I agree. I went to a smaller Christian university. I do not think I am better than any other man or woman who walks this earth. I do look at those who use God as a way to enrich themselves while stealing from those who have nothing by promising untold riches as being lucifer incarnate. It really hurts my heart to watch it happen.

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  5. 52 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    I suppose one should make a distinction between a rich preacher and a rich church.  Neither is entirely (or at all) consistent with fundamental tenets of Christianity, as opposed to fundamentalist Christianity, but a preacher moreso than a church.

    Both bother me. I have always felt that way. When I see the TD Jakes of the world wearing 3k suits and meanwhile your congregation has members who are struggling to just pay their bills and afford food it angers me.

    Jesus was a poor man who preached about helping others. He had nothing of monetary value so I feel pretty certain he would be shunned completely by most denominations. 

    The prosperity gospel preachers as a whole are just inherently evil human beings. Screw the lot of them. I 100 percent support taxing churches. 

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  6. 6 minutes ago, Mapache said:

    Jesus would be ashamed of you Falwell, you ignorant soulless fuck

    He is what Christianity is in a large section of this country. It is shameful and repugnant and I do not blame those who turn from it when you see who the cretins are who are promoting it. Using Jesus to further political gains is awful, but holy hell we have millions in the population who are gullible and will eat it right up. 

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  7. 5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    Might be real, might be pixels:

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    Looking at her right now she has definitely had some work done over the years to look as good as she does at her age.That picture screams photoshop from whatever year it was taken.

    A feisty Italian woman like her is something else though.

  8. 2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

    Gotta tell ya, the incredulous reaction to his North Korea lies, even by his own party, cracked me up.
    And the USA chants...we’re a fucking joke. We’re a goddamned banana republic clownshow.

    As soon as the North Korea propaganda started I was out. Screw every single person still supporting him right now. You absolutely deserve to be left behind to wallow in your sorrows and economic misery that has already started

  9. Got in from work and started listening 25 minutes or so ago. This blathering moron is insane. That North Korea comment was it for me in that bullshit propaganda speech. 

    And fuck him for using that innocent child battling brain cancer to garner sympathy. She has more determination in her pinky than that fat ass has shown in his entire life. 

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  10. 1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

    I just found out this year that what maybe the last Red Green TV show tour ever is not coming anywhere near Texas.  That’s shitty. 

    Looked up the tour and see the closest stop is more than six hours from me. 

    Plans made to drive six hours two minutes later.

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  11. 52 minutes ago, Keef said:

    What, the Deutsche Bank guys thought Trump would stiff them on the loan if he won the presidency?  I for one am shocked. 

    Stuff like this is something else the Democrats should be highlighting. Our freaking president is found to not be worthy of receiving a loan because, well, he's a lying assclown in the view of Deutsche Bank. Think about just how embarrassing that is for us as a country. I just can't grasp how anyone still supports him outside of those who are likely ensnared due to money they received from foreign entities. 

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  12. 7 hours ago, Chrispy said:

    Well, you’re assuming that I’m of the belief that I’m entirely objective and rational. I’m just as prone to my mammalian failings as the rest of this board. 

    My family situation is administration proof, so that gives me the ability to be less emotionally invested than many on this board. Many of these “cataclysmic” events that litter these threads merely warrant a insouciant shrug from individuals such as myself. 

    You are definitely trolling. This is an extremely weird troll job, but nonetheless you are doing that. What I want to know is why you come here and lie about who you are as well as lying about a non-existent family. 

    What is it you gain from this? Is it a thrilling feeling to make up elaborate stories about a life that you do not live while sharing said lie with people you will never meet? I do not understand this weird phenomenon, but perhaps you have one honest bone in your body and can tell us why it is you present yourself in a false manner on this website. I just don't get people like you.

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  13. 7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


    Both sides!
    Except, you know, without the worship of batshit Q theories and worshipping at the altar of lies. Other than that, though, BOTH SIDES!
    Shit, I think you may owe Anastasis royalties for that.

    I actually feel some pity for the poster you replied to. He will spend his entire life only caring about how everything affects him and what it does to him monetarily. 

    I honest to God feel bad for people like him because they care not about their fellow human beings and only themselves and those within their orbit. When you are able to think outside of that and you support decisions made that benefit someone besides yourself life just feels better. I can't imagine living life how that poster does. It seems like such a sad and irrelevant existence.

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  14. Brisket we have been a very unforgiving nation in recent years and really our history as well. To the Victors go the spoils I suppose. 

    We have to do better though. Do not look to Washington to set the example. We have to do better in our local communities. We have to treat one another better. We may argue and get angry over things, but by God we have to try and rise to the ideals we all want to live by.

    Almost none of us want to see the Republican Party ideals be the law of the land. However we have to come to some agreement as to how we want to see our great nation governed. For better or worse all 330 million plus of us are in this great American experiment together and we have to show the dictators of our time that America is still in control and they will not allowed to be able to run amok and destroy Democratic principles.

  15. 32 minutes ago, mdmost said:

    I’d be in favor of sending Stephen Miller and Kristjen Nielsen to Gitmo for their crimes. That’s me being nice. 

    Stephen Miller is the absolute worst person not named Dotard in this entire administration. He is the personification of evil and he should spend his remaining days in prison.

    However, If you gave me a choice of Dotard or Miller receiving a life sentence that could not be challenged in court I would give it to Miller.

  16. 5 hours ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

    Anyone who disagrees with the leftists on this board is a liar, stupid, etc. it’s why there is such great discussion going on here and why the politics board is viewed with disgust by everyone else on surly

    I think if you look at the "leftists" you will see many of them were once conservatives. What happened in 2016 and the aftermath and continuing destruction of our democracy pushed many of them to support Democrats in the hope that they will stand up to a coward who wants to be a dictator.

    I have in my life voted for both Republicans and Democrats. The actions of the actors on the stage since November 2016 has pushed me into choosing a side. I said I would never again vote for either a Democrat or Republican a few years back. I set aside that and voted for every damn Democrat I could last November and where I was at I was able to help oust one of the biggest assholes in American politics in my lifetime. I am proud of the votes I cast that day. 

    The discussion has to be about our democracy and having people in our government who believe in it. The slowly dying Republican party does not believe in our ideals or the concept of our "Better Angels". They will never receive another vote from me because of the traitorous actions they have committed from the Oval Office down the last two plus years.

    I know Brisket will not agree, but our country is better than this, but the Republicans have to be completely eradicated from public office. My only hope is the party that replaces them has no racist tendencies and actually cares about all citizens regardless of race or ethnic origin. Iconoclastic I know you are ml mostly ostracized on here for your views, but try and think of how things are right now and perhaps understand that we are not living up to our ideals as a nation and we are definitely not a beacon for freedom at the moment.

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  17. On 1/31/2019 at 12:18 PM, Jhawk said:

    There aren't a lot of people on this thread calling for intervention.  There are a lot more people saying that people are calling for intervention.  Most people in this thread that think Maduro has to go aren't advocating for anything with the US actively trying to topple him (boots on ground/CIA).  The US has taken the same position as many other countries have.  Maduro's clock is ticking and it is wholly his own doing.

    He has to go. If you care about your fellow man and feel any way bad about millions slowly starving to death you have to want to see a stable government in place there. I said this before that we as a country have done a not so good job helping out those in need around the globe at times. We need to show that America is there for the average Venezuelan. We should not stand idly by while people suffer like this.

    At the end of the day we are all humans and when the most powerful country in the history of the world is in a position to shape the policy to where starving Venezuelans can get the support of the world community you do that. You just do dammit.

    My God we have to set aside stupid ass political ideologies and remember that we should embrace helping those who cannot help themselves. If you think otherwise on something as central to the human spirit as this you are honestly just an awful person. 

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  18. Just now, Mdhorn said:

    Trump doesn't give a f'k about Texans either. And apparently, neither does Ted Cruz or John Cornyn.

    Of course he doesn't. It amazes me how millions of Texans bought into his bs. This is the best example I have to give from my own family. My cousin is from Round Rock and lived in Marble Falls last I heard two years ago. When I still used facebook he railed against having to choose between "Two Yankees" for president. He was a Cruz supporter. As soon as Trump was the nominee everything was pro-Trump all the time. 

    The worst part of the whole deal is he supports the wall being built to the heavens if possible. I should mention his wife of two decades or so is Hispanic and they have three kids together. I will never be more embarrassed by a relative than I am of him. I remember him insulting someone I knew by calling them a typical black liberal. I have not spoke to him for two years. 

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  19. 3 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

    Fucking awesome.  Holy shit, back in the day I always wished I could make money with a history degree

    I wanted to go this route as well because I absolutely love history. I try to always remember the past, study it and learn from it. History in its many forms is just fascinating.

    Were I in a position to travel whenever I want I would just travel the world visiting historical sites. I made my first visit to Gettysburg in early November. It was an overwhelming experience standing on Little Round Top and visiting the area where the grove of trees stood where thousands died within a few hours. Was crazy thinking about Lee standing less than a mile away a 155 years ago watching his soldiers get massacred.

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