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3 hours ago, Post Oak said:
Thinking about how he was used still infuriates me.
I thought the same thing. At a minimum, that dude should have been getting jet sweeps, kick returns, punt returns, and third and long draws and screens.
That said, it led to one of my all-time favorite CFB graphics/memes ever.
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17 minutes ago, Codaxx said:
going to guess the rotation is 6 to start the season and it will finish around 4 by the end.
2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:That is the real question. I would guess Moore is the most likely. There will likely be some time missed for injuries in the group. I would bet on Wingo play time increasing as the season progresses.
Outside of injuries, I don't get the logic here. If you have 6 starting caliber receivers, why would you not continue to rotate them and keep everyone fresh and productive?
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18 hours ago, immamac said:
I'm gonna laugh when sydir finishes the year with 5+ sacks.
He’s more likely to wind up as a sack of goo, watching Spongebob reruns from his mom’s couch in New Jersey by the time the season is finished than with 5 sacks on a football field. How high did you get before visiting the practice on Saturday night?
16 hours ago, Vito Andolini said:Despite Gaskamp Award notions for Juan and despite all indications he’s a great guy, I find it hard to believe he’ll have a bigger impact than Niblack. Unless Niblack is considered more of an H-back.
immamac is prone to fits of absurd hyperbole. The post you’re responding to appears to be another example.
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33 minutes ago, someguy said:
suit yourself
That poster is a proven buffoon. If you put him on ignore, you won’t miss a thing.
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2 hours ago, 6th Street said:
I worked at Outback one summer in high school. Will never forgot how after about 15 mins the cheese fries would harden up into a large coagulated pile of fat and grease.
Who in the fuck lets delicious cheese fries sit around? Much less for 15 minutes?
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1 hour ago, Tylerocks said:
I've never been, but I have a friend that swears their wings are some of the best restaurtant wings out there.
I worked there during college. I’ve always thought their wings were about as straightforward and terrific as you can find.
Outside of their steaks, most of their food is still damned good in my opinion. Hell, their prime rib is still just fine too.
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Listen, what in the fuck did Outback Steakhouse ever do to you people to deserve this kind of derision?
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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:
The Aggies are believing a much improved defense will boost them in competition. I'm unclear on a few things after the fog of the off-season.
Wasn't the A&M defense good last year? How much better could it get to make any kind of material difference?
I've read here that their first string talent is good to excellent on defense. Now I'm recalling what a star Edgerrin Cooper was last year. He's arguably the best linebacker I noticed playing for anybody all season.
What do they have or whom have they recruited to fill that gap? I recall their linebacker depth chart was pitiful when the season ended. I just checked 247 and see they has two LB (one seemingly very good) committed and on campus. Three LBs transferred in. One from Pitt, a possibly toxic guy from Florida, and a smiling fellow from Youngstown state.
I didn't intend to write this long when I started, but at least I've done some leg work. I'm thinking their linebacker corps drops in quality with so many new guys and questions. I don't see their defense improving.
Is this correct?
If so, everything is reliant on their OL to improve, correct? I think all of their QBs looked good last year, but they won't be enough.
How far off am I?
The strength of their team, on paper, is their front on defense. They have talent at DT and talent and depth at DE. I wouldn’t expect that group to get pushed around a ton. Oddly, they weren’t great against the run last year, but they have another year of maturation and some of the bitchy play from Nolan won’t be missed.
At LB, they’re in the process of lionizing York as some sort of mythical creature. He played a lot as an undersized freshman and called the defense. He’s the best LB they have. The Scooby guy from Florida gets mentioned because SEC but UF packed his bags for him. He’s yet to live up to expectations.
Outside of Anderson, their secondary projects to be dogshit. We’ll see, of course.
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I like NC State to beat Tennessee. I think Iamaleava is severely overrated heading into this season, as are the Tenn WRs.
Va Tech absolutely has the schedule to win the conference or play for it in the championship. They also have a QB to boot. Should be interesting watching them. They don't face an FCS opponent, but they face a really weak non-con with: @ Vandy, Marshall, @ Old Dominion, Rutgers. They miss FSU, SMU, NC State, UNC, and Louisville with their only real underdog games looking like @ Miami and Clemson.
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17 minutes ago, BornOrange said:
You know it, I know it, everyone but Jonah knows it.
So we are recruiting him as a safety and possibly driving off a legitimate safety, hoping that Jonah doesn't play MLB and doesn't end up at LB.
I don't think that's fully accurate regarding Tilmon. They're not pushing him away. He seems to regard Utah as the better fit.
Utah is a funny school in terms of the way they recruit. A lot of guys they land have bigger brand options and still choose to go there and often stick. Not always, of course, but it seems like that's the case more often than not. I do like that Texas and Utah are on some of the same guys. Utah evaluates really well, in my opinion.
As to Jonah Williams, I have made my arguments for why I think he's a candidate to be a bust or non-entity in college. He's going to ultimately be a LB if he'll let himself grow out. Many people think he could be an excellent LB. That's what drove his early rankings. He comes back later and tells the services and the coaches that he's a safety and that won't be changing. He's also not in love with football. And he's an MLB risk.
So there are a lot of red flags there. If he doesn't cost a program a ton of money (but he probably will), he's a quality lottery ticket. He will boost hype and rankings of the class, which helps the overall class, and he could well wind up spinning to the right position and discovering that he can make millions there. There are worse takes with that in mind.
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I think Florida would have to go 9-3 to get in, and the losses would need to be of the quality variety. They're not putting an 8-4 team into the playoffs in year 1, particularly from the SEC. The optics on that would be horrendous.
24 minutes ago, Newy25 said:One team to mention- Memphis is a more talented Liberty this year and they play Florida State. If they go 11-1 I hope they get in over Liberty with that schedule. We do not need to penalize teams for playing quality opponents.
Good point about Memphis. FSU's schedule is getting little notice, but it's something of a beast in its own right if you look at it.
FSU goes:
-8/24 (Week Zero) - vs. Ga Tech in Dublin - this is a bear of a trip for both teams and Norvell publicly complained about it at ACC Media Days.
-9/2 (Monday of Week One) - vs Boston College in Tallahassee. This is the second week to open the season in which FSU plays a talented QB against their new defense.
-9/14 - Memphis - one of the better G5 programs this season according to projections.
-9/21 - Cal - Cal projects as a bowl team, has a stud TB and will have an excellent defense.
-9/28 - @SMU - SMU is a dark horse beloved in the media to win the ACC. They should be tough and solid at home.
-10/5 - Clemson - I don't see Clemson competing for the national title, but they're going to be very good and gunning for FSU.
-10/19 - @ Duke - Should be the first layup of the FSU season, although I am biased about Manny Diaz and Murphy and think Duke will be shit this year because of them.
-10/26 - @ Miami - Rivalry game and the second straight roadie. If Cristobal is as big of a dumbass as I think he is, FSU should win here. If somehow that brickhead has Miami rolling with all of their talent, this could be a crazy game.
-11/2 - North Carolina - UNC has talent, but FSU has more. The transfers should have gelled by now and FSU should be favored to win. The wildcard here is if Mack Brown goes into labor on the field during the game. That kind of distraction could really fire up the tarheels.
-11/9 - @ Notre Dame - At this point, FSU has faced a legitimately brutal schedule with no true patsies. It's another opportunity to face off against a real dumbass at the head coaching position. Notre Dame is playing the cupcake schedule already alluded to, and this should be a key game they need to bolster their resume. I expect ND to win convincingly but, let's face it, it's August and who the fuck knows what will happen this season?
-11/23 - Charleston Southern - This season's only true gimme for FSU.
-11/30 - Florida - Another team that will beaten up by a brutal schedule, the rival gators come to town for what might be their battle for bowl eligibility.
FSU faces that schedule with a true mediocrity at QB in DJ Ungaleieleieleilalluelei. That initial 6 game stretch includes just one bye week. Grim.
FSU and USC are two teams with schedules in the range of difficulty of Florida and no one is giving either any credit for it. It's interesting in terms overall media bias and talking points at this stage. They're not going to give Riley any quarter and no one is giving the whiners at FSU much credit or thought right now.
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11 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:
Same as breathing the air there.
et tu, Roma, et tu?
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You elitists besmirch the proud city of Pasadena at your own peril.
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3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:Are you stupid?
You don’t post well enough to post at other posters like this.
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@someguy mentioned on OTF that Scotty Cochran was on campus to give a speech to the team. Any shot that Sarkisian and him are talking about something more with the program? The guy was an integral part of the Bama program for a decade.
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14 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:
The new kick off is weak. Just give them the ball at the 35 if they kick into the end zone. No reason to fundamentally change special teams.
You’re in mid season form with the terrible takes. Solid work.
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1 hour ago, texifornia said:
Isn't part of Liberty's issue that most real schools refuse to schedule them because they're a giant grift that turns well-meaning Evangelical kids' tuition payments into yachts for the Falwell failson and his corrupt buddies?
28 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:Nah. There’s no upside for anyone to play them. They aren’t great or anything but it’s no upside if you win and it’s a lose able game with downside.
I’m not saying that what you said doesn’t happen, I’m saying nobody gives a shit about that in a scheduling context.All of this is their bullshit and y’all are perpetuating it. They are choosing their course. This is what they want. If they wanted to play P4 teams, they’d be playing them. They’re not unique.
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2 hours ago, locodos said:
Etienne is the definition of a gamebreaker. Electric with the ball and awful in pass pro. Breaks the game either way.
It is sad to me that Florida has fallen so far that their fans don’t even know what “electric” looks like out of the skill positions anymore.
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6 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:
Michigan shut Iowa out in the Big 10 CCG. I think they'd have been fine in the regular season.
But your greater point stands, and with the massive conferences we're going to see some seriously imbalanced schedules. Hell, we already are. Just look at Florida and Missouri. Same conference, wildly different difficulty of schedule. The committee has the ability to address some of this nonsense with their selections, but I doubt they'll let SOS and imbalanced schedules get in the way of picking match ups with better ratings.
I have no doubt that Michigan would have beaten Iowa during the regular season. My point was more about, well, do they beat PSU the following week? That was a tough game on the road in the first place. Just a what-if? given the nonsense of what they actually faced.
I am encouraged to hear that the SEC is likely going to a 9th game by 2026. I don't see how the ACC doesn't follow suit, especially since I'd think that inventory is worth money than the FCS games are. I think the biggest thing that probably gets the ACC off the button, if money can't, is watching the Big 12 get 3 teams in a couple of times while they're getting their ACC champion in and begging that the runner-up also get a consideration. Better be Clemson, FSU or Miami in that 2 spot at 11-2, I'm hoping.
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Scheduling never gets enough scrutiny from the media, yet schedules make or break title contenders every season. Last year, Michigan opened with 4 games at home: ECU, UNLV, Bowling Green and Rutgers. They also missed Iowa. I know that they were damned good and also cheating motherfuckers, but how different is the Michigan 2023 season if they catch Texas, or go on the road to ND, or play Iowa a week before Penn State? Maybe they still win it all, but that is very, very debatable.
As an alternative, think about Liberty* in 2023. They played the shittiest schedule in FBS. Yet they go undefeated and, basically by default, wind up as the highest ranked G5 team and got to go get blown out in the Fiesta Bowl. Does that game look different if SMU or Tulane plays Oregon instead? I'm sure Oregon still wins, but many more of us might have at least been inclined to have watched it. I didn't. I watched most bowl games and skipped that bullshit.
Or how about something altogether different, such as Texas in 2023. If Texas went the Oklahoma/Michigan route and hid behind their brand in the hopes of making the playoffs, rather than doing something worthwhile in the non-con, does Texas get in with a 12-1 record but a win over, say, Appalachian State instead of a road win versus Alabama on their resume? No, they don't. Either both Bama and Georgia get in, or FSU gets in and UGA bawls. Either way, no one but Texas fans would have been whining for 12-1 Texas.
So what about this year? Who's got a spine and who doesn't? And what might the consequences be? If not discussed here heading towards the season ramp-up, we won't see much discussion elsewhere or properly given its due, at least.
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1) The SEC and ACC - look, I understand why we are still dealing with this weak shit regarding 8 conference games, but I don't have to like it. I hated it when Texas wasn't in one of these conferences and I hate it now. It's spineless schedule manipulation done to get more teams into the playoffs. Add to that that in replacement of the 9th conference game, these teams all (except for Texas and Va Tech), that's 31 out of 33 conference teams, they each play a FCS program and you've got vomit-inducing, cheating-esque garbage being pushed our way as fans. No one wants to watch that shit. Further, neither conference has an argument for a bubble playoff team over a high quality alternative from the Big 12 or Big 10 getting in instead. Fucking joke.
2) Ohio State - Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall - fuck these guys. They better win out or there will be plenty to argue against their entry to the CFP.
3) Ole Miss - Furman, MTSU, @Wake, Georgia Southern. When Ole Miss is sitting at 10-2 with a loss to Georgia and another random, SEC honks everywhere will be pleading about their grind of a schedule and getting them in as the 11th seed over some 11-2 Big 12 team, laugh at them. They get 5 of the bottom projected 7 SEC teams and skip Texas, Bama, Tenn, and Mizzou.
4) Oklahoma - Temple, Tulane, UH, Maine! - at one point in time, OU would schedule anyone, anywhere. Those days are gone. Now, they crouch behind their history and hope for the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately for them, too many benefits of the doubt have been given to them in the past, only to watch them just get fucking mauled in title games and the like. Fuck OU. (I don't give a shit about the Georgia game cancellation - they could have found a P4 opponent and chose Maine and Temple instead.).
5) Notre Dame - ND gets to pick who they play every year. They know they'll get the benefit of the doubt in a close call against any conference's 3rd or worst candidate for a playoff spot if they're 10-2 or better. It appears as though they said, "yeah, fuck it, stop scheduling teams with a pulse" once the playoff expansion was announced. This year they go:
@ATM, Northern Illinois, @Purdue, Miami of Ohio, Louisville, Stanford, Ga Tech (@Mercedes Benz in ATL), Navy (Met Life Stadium), FSU, Virginia, Army (in the Bronx), and @ USC.
Who is the toughest team on that schedule? An overranked ATM? A weak USC? A top 20-ish FSU team? If Notre Dame is anything below 11-1 this season, they should be eliminated from the conversation unless multiple teams on their schedule really surprise with amazing seasons.
Anyway, all 5 of these scheduling approaches have serious consequences for the CFP this year. Deserving teams sitting at 10-2 or 9-3 playing harder schedules are likely to get pushed out because of some of this bitch-made shit. I'm curious to see how it all plays out and figured it was worth hearing anyone else's thoughts as well.
*Liberty again stands to gain the most out of everyone with their scheduling nonsense. For one, they play in the worst G5 conference - Conference USA. It's a pathetic overall group of teams that have arguably no business remaining at the FBS level. In addition to their pathetic in-conference slate, which includes 3 recent ascendants from FCS (Sam, Jax State, Kennesaw State), their non-con includes an FCS school (Campbell), ECU, App State, and UMass! Wretched. App State is at least favored to win the Sun Belt, so maybe they can save everyone from having to watch the #5 CFP seed simply walk over #12 Liberty on their way to the quarters.
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1 minute ago, immamac said:
Quick question what's with all the yarn gifs lately? They don't work because yarn is messing with the embeds.
Also quick update. Sark has allowed media in for the first 3 days of practice with summaries allowed. There is a bonus night practice on Saturday but that one is gagged so don't expect any scoop from it.
Are you going to the Saturday practice? I don't know who gets invited and who doesn't. I got the invite, but I've been traveling a bunch and decided to punt. I think @RGBIII is going, and if you are as well, hopefully y'all can at least offer up your views on what you saw.
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On 7/26/2024 at 10:07 AM, Fud said:
He gone
They have depth at the position and he wasn't appreciably better than the others, but it doesn't help their depth at the very least
He was viewed as someone with an NFL grade, allegedly.
Word from people on the UGA staff that any of us would trust is that they have more NFL talent on the offense than they've had since Smart took over, albeit not necessarily the highest end NFL talent. They think every starter this season will ultimately be drafted, with Beck and several OL going in the first (not everyone after this season, as some would be 2026-beyond).
I'm personally skeptical of this analysis, including the prior views on Thomas before the latest felonious bullshit that should send his ass to prison. The WRs should scare no one. Delp is good, but he isn't Brock Bowers. Yurosek is the better receiving TE and I'd take either Texas TE over him. They have quality TBs including Etienne, but no gamebreakers. Beck is a high quality starter but he gets the benefit of the doubt as much as anyone this side of JJ McCarthy. I question the notion that every OL is a NFL prospect. Wilson is not a known commodity at C. Truss is getting Mims-level love and he played a utility role last year and G the year before.
Regarding the D, the word was that they'll be good, not great, by Georgia/Bama standards. That outlook doesn't surprise me. Williams gets love due to recruiting pedigree and NFL grades, but he's yet to be a scary productive player. Mondon and Starks are legit. The rest of the Georgia defense is more recruiting ranking than collegiate output at this point. There's no doubt they'll be very well coached, nonetheless.
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10 hours ago, Nope said:
He looks like what I convinced myself Armanti Foreman was going to be when he committed
He’s saying Owens is also going to be NFL good?
Texas believes that Owens has an NFL ready arm and is very bright. He's also not a complete statue and has a huge frame. He was basically ignored by the recruiting world, apparently because one of the best QB developers in the sport got on him early. He's eventually going to cost Texas some money to keep him, but they picked him up for fire sale pricing.
3 hours ago, Codaxx said:I think this is a bit over-stated. The OL was pretty good last year overall, but I will concede this is the last step in the reclamation project that was the OL Flood inherited. They had their issues in short yardage last year. They were not an OL that could just come out and just smash competent defenses, but not many OLs can. Another year of physical development and RB development should help that.
What the fuck is this? You're not supposed to be optimistic about the OL ahead of a season. Has you handle been hacked?
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2024 Fall Camp Thread - Bubble Wrap ALL THE RB
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If I ever get in trouble, I just go 5 Wide, All Go/Verticals and throw it deep to Bond, and then Wingo, and then a 5 star that I recruited with 99 speed. It feels like cheating.