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  1. What I read Gerry saying here is that Georgia and Clemson lead for Atkinson by a decent margin over Texas and others. Not surprising with Georgia, but to see Clemson putting together a potential top 3-5 class is. I guess there's overweight in this cycle for talent from NC down through Georgia, so it makes sense that they'd benefit when that happens. Gerry: Latest on Peach State 5-star OnTexasFootball spoke with a person in the circle of Grayson High (Loganville, Ga.) 5-star linebacker Tyler Atkinson Monday night. Atkinson, 6-foot-2 and 210-pounds, visited Clemson and Georgia in the last three days. Both will be in the recruitment until the very end. OTF was asked during Monday nights Talkin' Ball if Atkinson had essentially cut Texas from his list. According to the source, Texas remains very much in the mix for the Peach State star. OTF believes that Atkinson will likely be back on campus prior to making a decision. Could that change? It's recruiting so always a chance, but this person has maintained for months that Atkinson would visit Texas again. Clemson, Georgia, Texas, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Auburn and Tennessee are the schools mentioned the most. Peach State official visits locked in for June ... June 13: Aaron Gregory, WR, Douglassville (Calif.) Douglas County - *Texas A&M commitment OnTexasFootball ranking: 4-star++ Heze Kent, TE/ATH, Brunswick (Ga.)High OnTexasFootball ranking: 4-star++ Bryce Perry-Wright, DL, Buford (Ga.) High OnTexasFootball ranking: 4-star+ June 20: Kaiden Prothro, TE, Bowdon (Ga.) High OnTexasFootball ranking: 4-star++ Spoiler for dark mode babies.
  2. I didn’t mean to imply anything more than cosmic shit with how it worked out with Terry. There were some really deflated supporters when Beard fucked it all up. I don’t know how much folks were ready to immediately pour into the next guy. TJ Ford has been rallying former players and pleading the case for Ivey for years now. The guy gave me the pitch at one point so I have heard it with my own ears. If Durant is doing anything along those lines, it’s derivative. I’m assuming someone in the discord is just passing the story off and getting names wrong.
  3. I'm not directly involved with anything other than the ability to talk to a few folks because we're working together on overarching stuff. So this is just one guy's view on how this stuff works at Texas specifically. Most of what drives anything with Texas is from internal forces. The goal to be the best at everything is the north star. I don't get any sense in any sports NIL discussion or whenever guys like CDC talk in private that performance of other programs is a driving force. Maybe it's used as a talking point or something, but Texas not being at the apex is always the bigger issue. With basketball in particular, there's a realization or belief that it is kind of absurd that Texas isn't a title contender in basketball. Maybe shit was different 40+ years back, but there is no reason that Texas shouldn't be hanging banners in basketball. Everything is there for it if the coaching situation is right.
  4. I still think I'm not fully following, but here are my thoughts on what I think you're talking to here. Some of these buyouts aren't "a few million dollars", unless you think $12+M is "a few". Billionaires feel that kind of action. As I posted earlier today, if someone's buyout is something like $7M, they'll bite the bullet, I'm betting. When relaying info to a reporter, some of the posturing of "we're not likely to go over $5M" is just that, whether trying to get that out to the admin, the agents, the fans, or all of them. A deal won't die over a million or two, but past that, it's an issue. The other thing people on this thread aren't taking into account is stuff I've also seen on the NIL front - it is really easy to spend other peoples' money. Committing to going all in to support a high quality hire means committing to years of support and that's a lot money for anyone. Unless there's a compelling reason to swallow a huge buyout, don't. As to some notion of a payoff spread over years in terms of an ROI concept, that doesn't really work. The BMDs aren't getting that money back. They're just getting pats on the back from CDC and maybe their name on something new. Having dealt with all of these people now in some form, or seen the dealings, they're going into the process knowing where their hard lines are for what they can commit. They're not worth 9 figures or billionaires by accident. They know their limits and appetites for risk and pleasure in this stuff. In some ways, there's a part of me that thinks the Rodney Terry period kind of needed to happen. There was some serious fatigue and depression with what transpired with Beard. Even if CDC had the big name lined up, and several were seriously rumored to be interested, were they going to get the sense of urgency and buy-in from the BMDs? Maybe, but maybe not. Now? Folks seem to have a sense of urgency and buy-in if they land whoever they think they're landing.
  5. I guess I'm missing something. The buyout clause for poaching usually requires and upfront payment from either the coach or the school doing the poaching. How are they going to get that spread over multiple years outside of a contract renegotiation with the offended school?
  6. One thing that Pate is actually good at is knowing how to drive likes, views and clicks. He is constantly either kissing the ass of the biggest brands, or trying to piss off their fanbases.
  7. You think Texas is going to renegotiate a contract clause with another university from whom they're poaching a valued a coach? I'd have to see that to believe it.
  8. Thank you for the feedback on my rhetoric when posting. I've really struggled with getting my points across over the years and you've done me a service here that I'll use to take a step forward, learning from a true master. Outside of that, you present a logic fallacy called a "false choice" that isn't worth the effort in rebutting. There are more than 3 options. You can make a splash hire and spend a lot of money on the coach and in NIL. You don't have to do that while also swallowing a massive buyout. Contrary to what Derka is bawling over, there are great choices that aren't named Nate Oats. Suddenly Oats and Lloyd are the only "great coaches" and yet neither of those guys has won a national title. Maybe Texas truly goes crazy and thinks Oats is the one they have to have, as Derka has stated, but after the Beard bullshit, I'm guessing he was never really on the list.
  9. Texas 8 & 4 isn’t going to work when the conference goes to 9 games and schedules home and homes with the Big 10. That bitchass FCS game isn’t going to get it done anymore. Can’t wait.
  10. This is consistent with what I've heard and have tried to relay what I could on this or the other thread like it. Probably coming from the same place and they gave Gerry the okay to put it out there for us to consume. Unlike fears from various talking heads or posters on this site and others, the money behind basketball is aligned and believe, along with CDC, that Texas should be a powerhouse and it is time to get to gettin'. He's picking a spot there. Like in M&A, no one is going to let a million dollars kill a deal, but they'll probably let $3-5M north of $5M kill it. Anything above $7-$8M is probably legitimately off the table and the logic is sound. It's pure dead money. How valuable is that coach over the next one with very little to buy out? That extra $3-5M could go to landing a top transfer and a top 5 recruit.
  11. Well, I don't even know what that means, but I'll take your word for it.
  12. Fuck your notion of "fair". Why does them claiming a top 4 finish connote "fair" to you? It's aggie pravda bullshit. They didn't finish in the top 4 in 2020. There was, you know, this weird thing called a 4 team playoff to crown a champion. ATM wasn't invited, largely because they were blown out by 4 TDs to an actual playoff participant and their opponents' collective record was something like 30-50. The only time anyone ever cites an AP finish for college football, from 2014 onward, is when they talk about ATM finishing at 4 in 2020. It's fucking bullshit and it should be disputed every time anyone cites it, anywhere.
  13. There are so many idiotic things said in those posts, but it never ceases to amaze me how some of them lack basic comprehension skills. Burton was referring to the last cycle, yet they’re tying new NIL deals for Manning to that number. Sadly for those idiots, $25M isn’t cutting it in the new cycle. Corporate will push $10M and the collective + House is committed for more than $25M, substantially. No one has to love this, but it’s better to be on the high side than the bitchy, whiny side.
  14. How in the hell is ATM still ranked? I get the “loaded with talent” narrative, I guess, but they’re not exactly losing to other really talented teams. They’re 9-6 with numerous bad losses. It’s like Texas football during the dark periods. Start out highly ranked due to “talent” and then fall apart due to coaching and a soft culture. Maybe they show up and run rule Bama all 3 games this weekend or something and then everything turns a corner. Hard to buy right now though.
  15. What did that guy do to get unloaded on like that?
  16. Here’s a sad article that Tarp had to write, obviously under threat of violence towards his family, about the defensive draft prospects for 2026: Texas A&M had three defensive linemen go to the 2025 NFL Combine in Nic Scourton, Shemar Stewart, and Shemar Turner. All three of them are expected to be no worse than second day draftees with Stewart moving into the top ten in some mock drafts and Scourton perhaps expected to possibly a day one selection as well. However, despite the losses, the Aggies return most of their starting lineup from their 2024 unit that might mean better things in 2025 and perhaps as many defenders going to the 2026 NFL Combine. Gigem 247's Jeff Tarpley spoke with ESPN Central Texas radio host Glenn "Stretch" Smith about who was coming back on defense and what to expect from the biggest names on that side of the ball that make them draftable for next year. We'll start on the inside. Albert Regis is someone who started alongside Turner. He looks a little undersized at first glance but is actually much bigger than you think. He's about 6-foot-1, 6-foot-2, maybe 320 pounds. He's a very agile interior lineman. He is hot necessarily a guy with a lot of get-off that comes up the field but someone who can move up and down the line of scrimmage, moves well laterally, and makes plays all over. The breakout guy for 2025 may well be on the outside. Cashius Howell (transfer from Bowling Green) had a good bowl game against USC. He had a couple of sacks, half a dozen pressures, and an interception. Howell was a real force for a unit that was missing Scourton, Stewart, and Turner as well as some other guys due to injury. Given his size right now, 240 to 245 pounds, he may be more of a 3-4 type of outside linebacker at the next level as opposed to a 4-3 defensive end but he fits A&M's scheme well. You've got the Mike backer, Taurean York, who had a very good freshman campaign but wasn't quite as good this year due to various issues, most of which weren't of his own making. He's someone to keep an eye on but probably not for the 2026 Combine. Scooby Williams, the Florida transfer, had a nice year in 2024. He's an off-the-ball backer to watch out for. He was much improved and became more of a line of scrimmage, downhill player. He is probably going to test well in a combine setting. Bryce Anderson, one of the A&M safeties is a veteran who has started a lot of games and played a lot of football. He has been a nickel and a safety. He was dinged last year but should be able to show more of what he can offer you going forward. He is another one who should have a good combine. Will Lee, the big corner who returned the interception for a touchdown against Texas is a guy that's going to get scouts' attention just because he is 6-foot-3. He is a big guy. He likes to get physical, jack receivers up, and make them feel like they're running routes in a phone booth. He is not going to beat you in a sprint but on the other hand he is going to make your life extremely difficult to catch the football. He's going to measure out well. The issue is how well he tests out but that is a totally different thing and that's something to worry about in March 2026 as opposed to the fall of 2025. Overall, if A&M has a lot more players that are going to be NFL-worthy and combine-ready a year from now, those will be the guys that make it happen.
  17. I don’t buy any of it. That’s an agent going fishing and a reporter trolling for clicks.
  18. The mere fact that Manning brings a legitimate running threat to the QB position is going to improve pass blocking even with the losses to the pros.
  19. I assume that's an agent pumping out nonsense and Nakos being willing to publish it for clicks. That's QB money and I don't give a shit if she's the next Caitlin Clark. I doubt it is a coincidence that "OU is surging" out of the blue in this recruitment. What's likely happened is that Tech has told her they don't have the money and OU's saying that they'll try. The deal likely isn't close to this, so they're trying to turn Texas into a scared imbecile and up their offer to something that is mere fantasy.
  20. Someone let the rest of us know when "Brauny" makes an appearance to tell his texags audience that they "knew this was coming" without ever having even hinted about such a thing. I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.
  21. Well, it's all subjective. I can't argue against Mateer when it comes to experience. My logic was that Arch is the starter, so I want a guy I trust that will be there and ready when he's gone.
  22. Sooners Illustrated released the sooner spring depth chart and it does not disappoint. I will spoiler it below. Highlights: -Remember that Venables has his team continue to regularly beat the shit out of each other in practice well into the season. I don't even think this is rumor. It's some sort of source of pride and many of the OU insiders are shocked when they go to practices and it. Which leads us to ... -Two of the OL starters (left side of the line) will be missing spring training due to torn labrum surgeries. No big deal for OL, right? Ask Tommy Brockermeyer. -Jayden Jackson, freshman AA DT, will also be missing the spring due to torn labrum surgery. No big deal for a DT either. Right. -Barnes (RB) is missing the spring after suffering a foot injury during winter drills. -Jayden Gibson (WR) is out for the spring after hurting his knee again in workouts. It's alleged that the ACL is torn again, but the mods haven't confirmed. -Jared Kanak, former highly rated LB recruit who was committed to Clemson and then came over to OU as Venables allegedly begged him to stay loyal to Dabo, is still running 4th string and going to split time also working out with the TEs. -Gentry Williams, Peyton Bowen, and Kendal Dolby are not able to practice yet with the team, after all 3 suffered injuries in the fall campaign. Notable, but nothing to blame on anyone. -Finally, I challenge anyone interested to offer up who they'd take from this OU two-deep and place in the Texas two-deep. I'll go first - Burks (Slot WR), Everett (C), Sexton (RT), D Williams (NT), R Mason Thomas (Edge), Eli Bowen (CB). Jackson if he comes back and there are no lingering issues with his shoulder. That's 6-7 for me and only Everett and D Williams are probably starters. It's definitely more than I would take from ATM, but that's a pretty weak group of top end talent for OU compared to the last 26 years.
  23. Sooners Illustrated released the sooner spring depth chart and it does not disappoint. I will spoiler it below. Highlights: -Remember that Venables has his team continue to regularly beat the shit out of each other in practice well into the season. I don't even think this is rumor. It's some sort of source of pride and many of the OU insiders are shocked when they go to practices and it. Which leads us to ... -Two of the OL starters (left side of the line) will be missing spring training due to torn labrum surgeries. No big deal for OL, right? Ask Tommy Brockermeyer. -Jayden Jackson, freshman AA DT, will also be missing the spring due to torn labrum surgery. No big deal for a DT either. Right. -Barnes (RB) is missing the spring after suffering a foot injury during winter drills. -Jayden Gibson (WR) is out for the spring after hurting his knee again in workouts. It's alleged that the ACL is torn again, but the mods haven't confirmed. -Jared Kanak, former highly rated LB recruit who was committed to Clemson and then came over to OU as Venables allegedly begged him to stay loyal to Dabo, is still running 4th string and going to split time also working out with the TEs. -Gentry Williams, Peyton Bowen, and Kendal Dolby are not able to practice yet with the team, after all 3 suffered injuries in the fall campaign. Notable, but nothing to blame on anyone. -Finally, I challenge anyone interested to offer up who they'd take from this OU two-deep and place in the Texas two-deep. I'll go first - Burks (Slot WR), Everett (C), Sexton (RT), D Williams (NT), R Mason Thomas (Edge), Eli Bowen (CB). Jackson if he comes back and there are no lingering issues with his shoulder. That's 6-7 for me and only Everett and D Williams are probably starters. It's definitely more than I would take from ATM, but that's a pretty weak group of top end talent for OU compared to the last 26 years.
  24. If it helps regarding the status of Turntine on the board for UT, I've asked Gerry directly about it on the OTF board. I'll post his response here. Last time I heard anything, Turntine was still atop the board and Texas felt good about his ability to gain good weight for the collegiate game.
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