Bruno Sardine

You don't take them at their word? I take them at their word. I believe that they believe the song is racist.

Exactly

Well I assume they are rational beings. If you believe the song is racist, then you believe people who continue to sing the song are racist. Right?

Feel free to make light of it, but it’s a pretty big deal that, from the perspective of many of our players, fans who sing the Eyes are on par with the Boogaloo Boys. At other schools, players show solidarity with the fans after the game. The fans support the players, the players support the fans. But at Texas, the players hold the fans in disdain. Yeah, I think that’s a problem going forward.

Not to sound like an ingrate – thanks for doing all this – but the screw-up occurred during the transition from Shaggy Bevo/Texas to here. Bada Bing worked. Bada Bing was not simply “current events.” Its precursor, of course, was Quakenbush’s, which worked too. The concept of a politics board on one hand and a current events board on the other is nonsensical. The nonsensical result is hardly surprising.

Not doubting you, but to get a residence permit in Germany: https://www.germany-visa.org/immigration-residence-permit/moving-germany-from-us/#:~:text=The%20Schengen%20Visa%20allows%20people,countries%20in%20the%20Schengen%20Zone.&text=This%20means%20that%20you%20can,will%20need%20a%20residence%20permit. “The standard residence permit (I think it’s 90 days) is granted for these reasons and people: Working in Germany, Attending training courses in Germany, Family reunion, Former Germans who want to return to Germany” To be eligible for a permanent residence permit, you would need to satisfy the above requirements for a period of 5 years (be a student for 5 years, work there for 5 years). As it was explained to me by a German, for an American to get a job with a German company, the company would have to argue that they could not fill the position any other way except by hiring that specific person, on the basis of his/her expertise. In other words, not easy for Americans to emigrate to Germany. But perhaps the person who explained it to me was mistaken and I’m misinterpreting what the web site I linked to says.

It’s such a dishonestly written article. A lie by omission. Leaves out the fact that the song was written to mock the UT president at the time. Makes it sound as if the song was written at the behest of or to honor the president. Fails to disclose or even address the original purpose of the song.

Gracias.

Is that study better than this study? https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext I ask because I really don't know. Yours is newer, for sure. Just noting that it's confusing when studies seem to contradict one another.

One of the camps I went to, Pine Cove, had study hours. We sat in the shade of a tree, read guess what, actually had some thoughtful and serious discussions. And it was hotter than Hades, let me tell you. An in person setting will always trump an online setting – unless, of course, it is so effing hot you can’t think straight. But there are ways to mitigate the heat, that’s what I’m saying. People realize, of course, humanity existed prior to the advent of air conditioning. Once upon a time, kids actually went to school indoors with no A/C in the brutal Texas heat. There are so many things you can do in person. It is superior to online instruction. If a teacher wants to, if it’s a school whose campus features a fair amount of shade trees or covered walkways or just whatever, if there are kids willing to try it, if there are parents willing to try it, then why would anyone object?

I mean, sure. It doesn't have to be in the blazing sun, though. It certainly isn't an appetizing option, but I grew up in Texas and attended summer camps and we survived without A/C. But perhaps you're right and few would be willing to try it.

How about outdoor instruction? Schools generally sit on big properties. Everyone agrees the safest way to conduct social interaction is outdoors. Why are the school systems not talking about this? Weather is an obstacle, but there are ways to plan around it (details of which not the point of post). If I were a parent and you laid out these two options (oversimplification alert): a) kid goes to school some days, sits in classrooms but class size is reduced, people wear masks, there are one way halls, social distancing guidelines, etc. b) kid goes to school some days, all classes are outdoors (lunch too), still social distancing rules I’m going with option b, right?

I recently inhaled, deeply and inadvertently, some tiny insect as I was smelling one of my gardenia blooms. At first my nostril felt itchy and my sinus passages tingled. Now my whole head tingles. I realize this recipe may be challenging to duplicate. Still, an interesting combination – whatever responses the insect stimulated mingle well with THC.

This is not very good, but the possibility was raised previously by another poster that we could keep the song and its attendant routines, the way the band plays it, etc. but change the words. The eyes of Texas are upon us All the live long day The eyes of Texas are upon us Let liberty hold sway Know that Texas stands for freedom Toward bigotry holds scorn The eyes of Texas are upon us Till Gabriel blows his horn

I'm sorry for being lazy, but just making sure someone has brought up "Glory, Glory." Glory, glory to old Georgia! Glory, glory to old Georgia! Glory, glory to old Georgia! G-E-O-R-G-I-A To what "old Georgia" are they nostalgically referring?

Damn it! Such a good scene and I screwed it up. Thanks for correction!

This is like pissing in the wind, but I don’t understand the lack of creative thinking here. Let me ask you: how much money would you pay (those of you who actually attend games and cheer in person for our players) for the privilege of singing the Eyes of Texas on a certain Saturday in October in Dallas? I would happily pay, say, $100 for the privilege of singing the Eyes of Texas. In exchange for this $100, I would wear a specific hat, shirt, sticker, whatever, that indicates that I am a proud supporter of the Eyes of Texas Foundation. When I stand for the Eyes of Texas, I stand against systemic racism in our country and contribute monetarily to organizations and programs devoted to this cause. And I will not be alone. There will be tens of thousands of others just like me. Let’s say something like 25 thousand x 100 = 2.5 million dollars. And that’s just the Texas-OU game. Thanks to the activism of our athletes, we will overhaul the symbolism associated with this song. The Eyes of Texas Foundation will donate more money to groups fighting racism and police brutality than any other charitable organization associated with any other institution of higher learning in the country (a loose association, mind you - I get that the University is limited in this capacity). And people are certainly welcome to - and people certainly will - donate more than $100 per game for the privilege of singing the Eyes. In other words, let’s tap into the rich pockets of the alumni who support our football program in order to further the cause of social justice. Isn’t this a better route than getting rid of the song entirely, which may make some people feel better but will NOT raise tens of millions of dollars to support racial justice and will NOT unite the fan base? We can harness the power of the Eyes of Texas – to which many fans are deeply and emotionally attached – and turn it into a fundraising engine for racial equity As Michael Scott would say, win-win.

The Eyes of Texas Fund. Gives X million dollars every year to movements/organizations that promote racial justice. UT athletes have some kind of input and help select the organizations. Each performance of the Eyes of Texas is linked to this fund-raising effort. For each home game the Eyes of Texas Fund will highlight a particular issue or historical event or personage related to the cause of social justice. UT athletes will have input into this. I understand there are limitations on what the University can do, but couldn’t such an entity be private?

Respectfully disagree. See two posts up from yours. Why wouldn't this work? Let the players take ownership of this thing. If we fashion a compromise we can actually use the Eyes to make a positive difference.

Guys - this is silly. All the teeth gnashing. We can keep the song and the lyrics. * Dedicate each performance of the Eyes to a particular person or event associated with the cause of racial justice. The players themselves can do this. Thus, the 9/19 performance of the Eyes will be distinct from the 10/17 performance in that each performance celebrates a unique theme. * Connect each performance to a fund-raising effort. If you sing the Eyes of Texas, you give. In singing the Eyes of Texas, our alumni will raise a substantial sum that will be donated to causes devoted to racial justice. The players themselves can decide this. * When the world sees our fan base stand up to sing the Eyes of Texas, they will know that we do so in the name of racial justice and that we put our pockets where our mouths are. * The players will be proud, the fans will be proud, and the singing of the Eyes of Texas will reflect positively on our University. All is not lost.

Sure, but I wasn't talking about outraged protesters.

Well that's a great point if that's who you're talking to. Is that how you see the people you disagree with here?

You won't be successful encouraging people to stop being pieces of shit by calling them pieces of shit.

That wasn't what I was saying at all. The point was made that you can skew people's opinions through selectively emphasizing certain events. Certainly there is police brutality in this country. The doctor who saved the police officers who were shot in Dallas several years ago spoke poignantly of his fears driving as a black man in the city. As for arresting minorities "at rates exponentially higher than others," I condemned that previously in this very thread and even talked about the underlying problems, which go beyond simple racism (as evidenced by the behavior of many black police officers).

He is suggesting that sometimes motorists take to the roads for important and pressing reasons, and that when you detain people on the interstate you may be doing more than "inconveniencing" them.