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  1. Mikey4
    So far, we're sending unwanted players into the portal. I haven't heard of any executions as of yet.
  2. Mikey4
    Not getting the Taffe hate. His elite athleticism and instincts are unmatched. Just watch how quickly he closes here at 2:22. That's what we need.
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    My only gripe with this is that deep coverage busts happen in real games, and too often our QBs (between Colt and Quinn) didn't see it or, if they did, missed the throw. Arch saw it immediately and found the receiver. If he can do that a couple of times in a season, those are free points.
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    Right. You made it sound like anyone reading the reoort to say that Sweat fled the scene has a reading comprehension problem. My point is that the report is not clear. The only name listed is Sweat. Beside offenses, it states DWI and leaving the scene. A reasonable inference is that Sweat was charged with both. I take your point at the inference may be incorrect, but it is not a crazy way to read the report.
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    Look at post #314. It’s at least confusing.
  6. Mikey4
    Or, how about we don't call a woman a cunt on any board. Jesus Christ.
  7. Mikey4
    As a white male, I'm fine with this. When AI becomes sentient in 5 years and sets out to destroy humanity, I will be happy it thinks I don't exist.
  8. Mikey4
    Lol, someone solves the deepest riddles of physics, and chooses Surlyhorns.com as the place to announce his findings, and you want to run him out of town. Smh.
  9. Mikey4
    Where is RayDog when you need him?
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    The Stephen King Thread

    Mikey4 replied to dcbc's topic in Books

    Finished Green Mile. I liked it, though it took way too long to get into the story. Started Salems Lot over the weekend. Enjoying it so far.
  11. Mikey4
    They're an utter embarrassment to the state is what they are.
  12. Mikey4
    It depends on the kind of bar. The kind with alcohol should be off limits to minors. But kids should have access to crowbars for gang brawls and the like.
  13. Mikey4
    I'm fine with that. 100% agree. The bar should be very high. But there should be a bar.
  14. Mikey4
    The parent has a constitutional right to own a gun. If the law makes a parent strictly liable when a child uses the parent's gun in a crime, then by definition the parent is liable even if the parent is without fault. In other words, the parent is liable even though the only relevant parental conduct is owning the gun -- the very thing that the Second Amendment protects.
  15. Mikey4
    Yeah, that's exactly it. I'm uncomfortable making a categorical rule rather than evaluating each case on its facts...even though I know that evaluating each case on its facts would lead to liability in virtually every case. Your approach is more practical and efficient, while mine leaves room for parents to escape liability in exceptional cases 🤷‍♂️
  16. Mikey4
    Yeah, if you read upthread, nobody is defending these dipshit parents, but people have differing views about why they should be criminally liable, and that's where the thread has gone.
  17. Mikey4
    Agreed, that's negligence though, not strict liability.
  18. Mikey4
    Gun violence is certainly a big problem. I guess I would understand a pragmatic policy that treats gun crimes differently due to the societal harms they cause. I disagree with it, as I think it would be used to punish parents for doing nothing more than exercising a constitutional right, but I see where you're coming from.
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    But even under 9, you're not really proposing strict liability. I think you're saying that the act of giving a gun to the child would be negligence, and I'm basically fine with that proposal.
  20. Mikey4
    Holy shit dude, read the thread. Yes, these parents are cooked. I've never defended them. I'm responding to claims that a parent should ALWAYS be criminally liable for a child's crimes if the child uses the parent's gun in the crime.
  21. Mikey4
    Yeah, we're basically saying the same thing. I might quibble over whether the act of giving a child a firearm is always categorically negligence (if that's what you're saying), but it would certainly be negligence in the vast majority of cases. (Say the family has a ranch and the 17-year-old, Eagle Scout son helps with the sheep, including using the 22 to shoot wild dogs that try to get through the fence. I'm not sure giving him access to that gun with those facts would be negligence, but I see the arguments both ways.)
  22. Mikey4
    Why wouldn't that same logic -- secure your shit, do a better job parenting, pay attention to your kid -- make parents strictly liable for every crime a kid commits? Your kid steals the car, road rages, and hits someone? "Do a better job securing your car, do a better job parenting/paying attention to your kid."
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    That's a distinction, but it's not a very principled one. A gun is not inherently more dangerous than those items, and guns have lots of uses other than killing people. I suspect that some very high percentage (99%+) of gun uses do NOT involve killing people but are instead focused on sport or hunting. A similar percentage of gun owners never use a gun to kill. I'm not sure why we would make parents strictly liable for a child's crime when the child uses a gun, but not when a child uses some other weapon.
  24. Mikey4
    I was responding to a post that reads: My basic point is that a parent should not be strictly liable for a child's crimes. At a minimum, parental liability should require proof that the parent failed to use ordinary or reasonable care. So giving a gun to a mentally disturbed kid who then uses it to murder someone? That's grounds for criminal liability of the parent. Just having a sharp knife in the kitchen? Nah, nothing out of the ordinary there. Everyone seems to agree on those points. Here's where I see disagreement: What about owning a gun that is unloaded and locked, but unbeknownst to you, your child -- with no warning signs -- walks to the hardware store, buys a bolt cutter, finds the gun, breaks the lock, finds the ammo, and kills someone? I don't see how that's a basis for parental liability. The parent stored the gun unloaded and locked and had no reason to suspect the child would do those things.
  25. Mikey4
    I allow my kids access to all sorts of dangerous instruments. I leave my car keys lying around. We have a drawer full of sharp knives. They know where to find matches and lighter fluid. The chainsaw is in the shed. Don't get me started on poisonous household chemicals. Should parents be responsible any time a child uses the parent's property to murder someone? Or is there something special about guns?

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