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It’s The Bulldog to you, struggling minor league bus.

Thanks for the response; I appreciate this take. You say the only response for the marginalized/masses is violent revolution. Would or do you condone that if/when this all peters out and no meaningful change is made? That’s exactly what a bunch of the protestors were saying on the video up thread by the way, that the system is unforgiving and broken in a way beyond repair and needs to be burned down and built back up again, as the only way, to ensure freedom and equality for PoC, and specifically blacks. Are you down for that, today? Are you down for that if all this is for naught in the off chance that Trump actually wins re-election as a spit in the face of these marches and cause? It seems from your posts that not only would you condone the violent revolution as honorable/necessary from afar, maybe you would be impelled to actually participate in it, for the noble cause of PoC diversity, inclusion and equality?

I had this random thought/topic, which is an unpopular opinion, that this this thread seems like it exists under other names and is redundant...I don’t get it, why do we have three threads nibbling around the same strike zone?

Here are the questions again Brisket if you want to respond, as Axiom mentions, you didn't.

You give only two options (which sounds an awful lot like political extortion or great negotiation tactics, depending on which side of the political fence you live on). I don't agree. My take is that the logical answer is what has always happened-- incremental, micro, and ever-so-tiny real change is made accompanied with a lot of lipservice-- and things more or less stay the same and time continues it's march onward. So what then? Where does that leave the rioters, looters and the peaceful protesters? What card is left to play, and will you be condoning it?

Let's agree that BLM as a philosophy and ideal and idea is fantastic. Let's agree to disagree on the bolded, my friend.

I've asked you this now three times, without you giving me an answer. What do you condone as the next step in the escalation path when incel weirdo and dufasses with hockey sticks and larping shields leads to zero change, yet again? When all the rioting and looting and protesting does nothing, yet again? Your position is that "nobody was listening or doing anything when we asked politely or did things non-violently, well now we are going to be violent and that'll learn 'em! Then we will get what we want!" When that will obviously not happen, then what? Are you going to be on these boards justifying it if people start trying to hurt other people who don't agree with them? Is that the next step? To distill the question I'd like you to answer: Because the odds are that all this protesting and looting and rioting is going to be much ado about nothing with respect to the power structure and society. If you are logically condoning protesters sowing their oats because they are frustrated from being ignored, then what about the next steps when these protests/riots are ignored as they most assuredly will be?

BLM the ideal and the philosophy rules. BLM the organization sucks. That's the tweet.

There was a kid in my neighborhood who had the Sega system that you could play a number of games on, somehow. Almost like it was hooked to the internet, but I'm not sure how that was possible in 1993. That as our version of what you just said; a guy like yourself who was probably an okay kid but otherwise you wouldn't want to really hang out with that much if it wasn't for the cool tech because you were poorer.

This is an amazing tweet. You love to see it!

Yea definitely a woman thing. I think if a man is obsessed with feminine luxury brands, it's weird or aspirational (e.g. grew up poor/ghetto, see the other thread about wealth indicators when you were growing up). When my youngest was a baby my wife had a $3k LV diaperbag/backpack thing. She said, "hey it's great, you can wear it too when you need to and it's cool/hip". I sold it on the secondary market for $1900. The $1100 haircut was worth every penny to not follow a fashion trend set by 2Chainz. That said, I do fall prey to some groupthink/peer pressure and own (more subdued and understated) Thomas Pink suits, Ferragamo belt and bit loafers, along with a couple Hermes ties in case someone tries to give me the ole Lehman Bros. handshake after hours in the Rainbow Room. I won't have my good named sullied, after all.

What you described, readily available on anyone's phone who isn't an employee of GOOG or an incel, is called Apple News +. It's $9.99/month. Go forth and question these things no more.

Well I'll fill you in-- it was okay. I'd rank the NFLX show (The Beat Goes on) #1, then the first Trolls #2 and the latest a solid #3.

probably everyone who has gained 15 lbs from eating like crap and snacking all day for 150+ days

Sorry, wasn't trying to reframe or anything like that. Was just responding to Brisket's line of thinking, which I'm trying to follow and think is super interesting. So what you are saying is conflicting with what Brisket is saying in that your position is that we are still in the "non-violent protesting, but nobody in power or position cares that much" and Brisket thinks we are in the "violent protesting because non-violence doesn't work, and nobody in power or position seems to care that much". So the question still remains; what is the escalation path to getting to the desired end result. Every conflict negotiation (which this stuff 100% is) is about getting to what you want from someone who doesn't necessarily want to give you exactly what you want. I'm curious because it sounds like Brisket is supporting a logical path that is going to end up in very dark, very sad place for a lot of folks and I'm curious if that's just part of the plan. Have to break a few eggs to make the omelette theory, and all of that.

All I know is I drove from Nashville to Houston the other week and I've never seen as many 1) 18 wheelers/trucks/semi's/whatever and 2) RV's/trailers/5thwheels/whatever. It made the drive absolutely miserable. It took 4.5 hours to get from Nashville to Memphis alone. I guess Covid-19 related; anyways what is usually a 12 hour drive turned into a 15 hour drive, all-in (had to stop when planned on doing it in one haul due to the delays).

Brisket. If I am hearing you, and following your logic: Powerful people don't care about you/your rights when you protest non-violently in the 1950's/60's. Check Powerful People will kinda care when children are attacked by grown men with dogs and water hose in the 1960's. Check Things kinda sorta, incrementally, barely, sometimes get better between 1960 and 2020. Check Powerful people don't care about you/your rights when you protest non-violently in the 2010's/20's. Check. Powerful people don't care about you/your rights when you protest violently in 2020. Check -- What's the next step? What's the escalation path? You seem to be condoning this escalating behavior of turning up the heat until you get the responses you want, so I'll ask you. Where does this end? Because we aren't going to wake up in a day or week or year and have equality and diversity and inclusion, figuratively overnight.

Lots of anger on this thread toward someone who was a kid when a professional instigator lied about a big scary middle class white kid harassing him while he played a trance drum solo and the kid just sort of smugly stared at him while his pudgy weirdo peers laughed at their buddy having gotten caught in a jackpot. This should have been just some funny story and memory the kids got from a school field trip instead the news media blew it out of proportion, in a climate when that kind of thing was a powder keg.

So, are you saying that "non-violence" doesn't work? Your post sounded like "they won't listen when we ask nicely so now we are gonna bust heads." What's next when nobody listens after rioting in the streets and burning a bunch of Autozones and looting foot lockers? You are justifying that, what next? Justify hurting people? What's the next step in the escalation process when the powers that be will not listen to this, like they don't listen to anything before?

Except Occupy Wallstreet. That is the one time I can recall people were like, "uh. the window has closed, i think. can you maybe go get a job now?". I guess that's the difference between rioting for equality versus a glorified homeless camp because rich bankers exist.

Surprised Blazing Saddles is still PC to say you like it. The satire/parody is very vulgar and from another time, for sure.

We paid the $20 for the Trolls movie for family movie night. It was nice

I got pulled into a few USA Network's "LAS VEGAS" starring James Caan and Nikki Cox when I was at the Cadillac dealer for service (they took like 4 hours). 2004 was an amazing time to be alive.

I think you misgendered her.

It truly is, as you say. Truly. I posted on the China thread that Trump is the scariest part of the escalations with China considering he hypothetically as the power to push the big red button.