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1 hour ago, CustersDoctor said:
Is the only SDSU football player you can name Marshall Faulk circa 1993?
If the PAC10 doesn't lose any more schools, then is the New12 better off with its current membership? Yormark, who is the best commissioner in the CFB wants PTZ teams in the conference and if we can't steal any PAC schools I think he will go for SDSU and Fresno.
Mark McGuire's little brother, Dan, played QB for them years ago.
I'd think UNLV would be more attractive bc it's a major metro that's still growing and has more upside potential than Fresno. I'll LMAO if both ASU and Utah balk and get left behind bc "academic prestige".
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11 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:
I see no scenario where SDSU is pulled into the Big 12.
If the B12 can’t peel away anyone from the P12, despite the feelers and misinformation, they’ll stand pat. ESPN and FOX aren’t paying more for non P5 teams. Even if SDSU was “worth it” (and that’s being highly optimistic) they’d need at least one more team who likely is ‘not’ which means diluting B12 income or ESPN/FOX deliberately overpaying, neither of which are likely to happen.
If the B12 can only get a single P12 school, say Arizona, and they somehow worked it in secret to get SDSU as #14, we all know SDSU wants the PAC12 validation of teaming up with Cal/Stanford. Between that and the politics of their state I just don’t see that highly unlikely scenario occurring because as soon as SDSU is told the Big 12 is expanding with a P12 members they know they’ll get the first call from the P12 and have an invite in hand before the end of the week. Still this is their best chance for joining a strong B12 or a still somewhat respectable P12.
If the Big 12 can peel away 2 or 4 members SDSU is not needed, and if they can only get 3 (AZ, ASU, CU) then why rush? Wait a few years and either Utah will come to their senses or further realignment (P12 schools getting B1G invites) or lack of realignment (think Oregon NOT getting a B1G invite around their next TV deal) could make that final spot in the B12 extremely valuable.
Right now the B12 has the perfect attitude. We wanting to entertain and make money, and we are placing high value on Western members. But if they expand with SDSU, Fresno, UNLV, and Boise you immediately lower you brand, money, and make yourself less desirable to the schools that are your actual targets.
I’d wager a mortgage payment that SDSU will not get a Big 12 invite in the next 4 years (around when the next round of negotiations are about to begin). If the PAC12 holds strong at 10, and doesn’t look to be breaking then maybe I could see the B12 taking a chance on SDSU at that time (though I still think it would be unlikely).
By what metrics are UH and Cincy appreciably better than SDSU?
Are their TV ratings that much higher? Now factor in their opponents. You don't think Big 12 membership will raise SDSU's profile and fan engagement?
I'm not necessarily arguing for SDSU, but I can see the Big 12 taking them if they can only lure 2-3 PAC teams.
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3 hours ago, Jabberwocky said:
See?
Those of you bangin' on the PAC for going 60%+ streaming don't realize or understand Kliavkoff is really a visionary. 😰
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2 hours ago, LTbear said:
The Runnin' Rebels are back, baby!
Big 16 !!!
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1 minute ago, DixonHur said:
Doesn't look like the guy you'd want hanging around The Strip
Well, he dresses the part...
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4 minutes ago, CTC2 said:
Think he is financing the NIL for this himself? Its in his interest and Colorado is not the end destination.
No, because I doubt Deion put much of his own money into Prime Prep.
But, maybe I'm wrong.
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Just now, Chewbacca said:
Why is it a dick move? This shit happens at every major program in the country, including Texas. Kids are recruited over and told to hit the portal or medically 'retired' to free up their scholarship for someone else. It's just happening in greater numbers at CU right now because of the shit show that Prime inherited.
After practicing all spring?
Deion and his staff had enough time to review film and decide whether many of these kids fit into their plans. I guess it's his prerogative to cut players later, but Gray and others could've spent spring practice elsewhere. Now they're even further behind.
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14 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:
https://theathletic.com/4451509/2023/04/26/deion-sanders-colorado-transfer-portal/
Most of the 23 Colorado players who entered the transfer portal or announced plans to on Monday and Tuesday were told to do so, players say.
Defensive coordinator Charles Kelly called safety Jeremy Mack Jr., who made 48 tackles last year and worked with the first-team defense for much of the spring, into a meeting with Sanders, too.
“Coach Prime just told me up front, ‘We have plans to go another way. You competed. You did everything we wanted you to this spring, and you fought,’” Mack told The Athletic on Monday. “That was my first meeting with Coach Prime since I’ve been here.”
Since arriving at Colorado in December from Jackson State to much fanfare and intrigue, Sanders warned roster turnover was coming for a program that went 1-11 last season.
“I’m bringing my luggage with me, and it’s Louis,” the Pro Football Hall of Famer famously told his team in their first meeting, referencing the luxury brand Louis Vuitton as a way of announcing better players would be joining the program. “I want y’all to get ready to go ahead and jump in that portal. … The more you jump in, the more room you make.”
In the transfer portal era, pushing players out has never been easier or more common, but no one has done it in terms of sheer volume like Sanders. A total of 51 Buffaloes have entered or said they plan to since the portal first opened in December – 46 since Sanders took over Dec. 2. No other program has lost more than 29 players.
As in any coaching change, there’s no single reason why players depart. Some do it of their own volition, some less so.
Montana Lemonious-Craig starred in Saturday’s spring game, but he entered the portal Monday. He’s “one of the few kids who wasn’t pushed out” of the program, said Malik James, a private coach of Lemonious-Craig, who didn’t explain the receiver’s decision to enter the portal. “He loves Coach Prime and the program.”
Over the weekend, Sanders reiterated that Colorado would be making room for incoming transfers who Sanders has been chasing.
“You all know that we’re gonna move on from some of the team members, and we’re gonna reload and get some kids that we really identify with,” Sanders said after Saturday’s spring game. “So this process is gonna be quick, it’s gonna be fast, but we’re gonna get it done.”
“We’ve got to make some decisions,” Sanders continued. “That’s gonna be on me now.”
The Athletic reached out to dozens of Colorado’s transfers and spoke with five players who departed the program — three who left before Saturday and two who were cut on Sunday — to get a clearer picture of how the roster turnover has played out inside the Buffaloes program.
Mack may have been caught off guard, but for other players, it was clear where Sanders and his staff were investing their efforts. A line emerged, players said, between the returning players and newcomers.
“None of the new coaches would talk to the old players and treat us the same as the people they brought in,” said tight end Zach Courtney, who entered the transfer portal April 19. “The new guys wouldn’t be picked on as much in film. Coaches would tell them to just do better, but if it was an old player, they’d keep going off on what you did wrong and keep yelling about it.”
Eight Jackson State transfers were on Colorado’s spring roster. One is Sanders’ son, Shedeur Sanders, who Sanders introduced as the starting quarterback at his introductory news conference. Another is Travis Hunter, the nation’s top-ranked recruit in the Class of 2022.
That duo helped Sanders, in his first college coaching job, rack up a 27-6 record in three seasons at the Historically Black College and University, highlighted by a 23-3 record in his final two seasons. Sanders’ on-field success and recruiting prowess reeling in prospects like Hunter and a host of Power 5 transfers turned him into a desirable candidate on the coaching carousel.
So far, the Buffaloes have accepted 29 incoming transfers, some of whom practiced this spring, and more are expected to arrive this summer. College football recently eliminated the cap on 25 signees in a single class, allowing new coaches to flip a roster faster than ever.
Players have until April 30 to enter the transfer portal, but teams can continue to add players to their roster after the deadline.
The five players The Athletic spoke with relayed one consistent reality for players Sanders inherited: He spent little to no time coaching or speaking with them.
“I felt like he was more of a motivational speaker. He gives good advice, but he didn’t really talk to me once,” Courtney said. “I never really got to experience his coaching.”
“No relationship with him at all. I said what’s up to him a few times,” said Gray, who practiced with the second team before an injury during a scrimmage forced him to miss two days of spring practice. “I’m not sure he knew the names of half the kids he got rid of. He was worried about who he brought in. If you were on the 1-11 team, it seemed like he didn’t really care about us at all. He already said he was going to get rid of 25-30 of us, and that’s exactly what he did.”
Defensive back Simeon Harris, who entered the transfer portal April 17 after making 21 tackles as a true freshman in 2022, said he accepted how it was to play for the new coach.
“It was fun. He wants what he wants. He’s old-school and down to earth, and he’s going to be honest with you,” Harris said. “I didn’t really talk to him much, but you say what’s up in the elevator, say good morning, things like that.”
Two players said they experienced what they viewed as favoritism toward the newcomers and noted that while many of the new players who transferred in meshed well with the team, most who arrived from Jackson State kept to themselves.
Sanders elected to make players earn their jersey numbers in spring practice, with newcomer Jimmy Horn Jr., a transfer receiver from USF, being the first player to be given his.
“Everything you do around here will be earned. We ain’t giving you nothing,” Sanders told the team, according to a video posted to YouTube this spring. “So you gotta go get it, and you gotta take it.”
Cameras are common in the facility at practice, documenting the program for an upcoming reality show and a variety of YouTube channels that cover the program and players within it.
Added one player who is transferring and asked not to be identified so that he wouldn’t have trouble finding a new school: “Wherever the camera’s at, that’s where Deion is.”
Harris and Mack both noted they loved playing for Kelly, Sanders’ defensive coordinator who came to Colorado after four seasons working under Nick Saban at Alabama.
For his part, Sanders continued to speak publicly about the expected overhaul of the roster during spring practice this month.
“What you see is not what you’re gonna see,” he said April 15 of the spring game.
He also noted: “We’re not upset that anybody jumped in the portal and left. And we’re elated about the young men that we have coming in because they’re difference-makers. They’re truly difference-makers.”
Did players like Mack have the option to stay and not transfer?
“I guess not,” Mack said. “At the end of the day, I knew I did everything I could in my control to play ball. I just took it how I have to take it. It was out of my control.”
A recent NCAA rule change allows first-year coaches to cut players from the roster as long as they also honor their scholarships even though they’re no longer part of the football program. Asked about the rule, a Colorado spokesman said the university plans to honor all NCAA rules and bylaws.
Gray said he was offered a chance to keep his scholarship and not play football and hadn’t heard from any teammates who had not been given that offer.
“All the players who entered the transfer portal, we want to play football,” Gray said.
Last year, USC coach Lincoln Riley used the rule to drop 10 scholarship players from the roster as he attempted a quick remake of the program.
The 46 transfers since Sanders’ arrival are a mix of players who contributed at varying levels. Some played little or none at all in their time in Boulder.
Others like running back Deion Smith and receiver Jordyn Tyson, both of whom entered the portal on Monday, led the team in rushing and receiving in 2022, respectively.
Lemonious-Craig caught a 98-yard touchdown in the spring game and led the team with 23 receptions last year, totaling 359 yards and three scores. Nikko Reed, the team’s best cornerback a season ago, left the team and entered the portal last week.
Casey Roddick, one of the team’s leaders last season and its best offensive lineman, landed at Florida State and joined the Seminoles before spring after starting 30 games and playing in 42 for the Buffaloes. Cornerback Kaylin Moorestarted 14 games and committed to Cal after entering the transfer portal.
Other Buffaloes have landed at Boise State (WR Chase Perry), Charlotte (OL Austin Johnson) and Southern Illinois (OL Noah Fenske). A trio of quarterbacks — J.T. Shrout, Owen McCown and Maddox Kopp — ended up signing with Arkansas State, UTSA and Miami (Ohio), respectively.
But the majority of those who have left Colorado have yet to find new homes. Some could be searching for a while. Others, like Lemonious-Craig, had offers from major schools like Auburn, Penn State and Arkansas pour in almost immediately.
The transfer portal has given players more freedom of movement than ever, and the players who left Colorado will have immediate eligibility.
“He was a businessman,” Mack said of Sanders.
And the rule changes that benefit first-year coaches mean the cold reality that college football is a business hits home for more players more swiftly than ever before.
“For the new players, this spring was pretty electrifying,” Courtney said. “But for older guys, people really didn’t feel like we were wanted there. It was droopy. Sad.”
Said Gray: “We believed in him and his methods, and even though he told us he was bringing his Louis with him and suggested we all transfer, we all still stuck with him until we all got cut on Sunday. He’s trying to do his own thing and make his own team. It’ll be a whole new team, and I hope he has what he’s looking for.”
Thanks for sharing The Athletic articles here and saving a few of us $1.50/mo.
What a dick move by Coach Prime, cutting a legacy kid like Gray after the spring game.
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1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:
People saying Deion is making a bad mistake by getting rid of really bad players reminds me of Woody Allen's old joke:
"The food here is terrible." "Yes, and the portions are so small."
At least he is entertaining. And LOL to people complaining about his coaching acumen. Need I remind you of the standard?
Mensa > 7-win Sark > Jumbo > CFS ?
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23 minutes ago, Hurtlocker said:
Had this in another topic, but I think the CFB Playoff needs to require a more standardized scheduling. It's never going to be perfect, but at least get close:
- 9 conference games
- 2 H-H series with another P5 conference, so every year you have a home and away, next year swap, then get a new team (unless its a rivalry)
- 1 - FBS group of five home game for cash and exposure.
- ZERO FCS allowed, outside scheduling one in a spring game.
That gives everyone 12 FBS games and 11 P5 games and should provide 6.5 home games a year. The consistency should also provide a larger value to tv contracts and put a lot more losses on crappy teams who feed on weak schedules.
Yeah, it's the SEC team's habit of scheduling November FCS cupcakes that really piss you off. Including their own fans and especially their season ticket holders.
Soon all P5 conferences will adopt a 9-game league schedule to maximize their media contracts. I'm surprised ACC is still at 8. TV should give them a pro rata increase for this consideration.
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45 minutes ago, USC Traveler said:
Did not realize that they had moved hockey to the BIG.
Very interesting.
Where would ND move hockey if not the B1G?
ACC supports everything else, including lacrosse. I guess ND could've petitioned Hockey East for membership to be with Boston College and Providence, among others.
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32 minutes ago, closetojumping said:
This is fan hagiography at its finest. If you think Deion’s plan was to render 62 guys off of the roster and add 85 to it in a single cycle, it’s time to forcefully remove your head from the inside of his asshole.
St. Prime?
Triple word score for "hagiography" and, yes, I think CU is in deep shit too. At least short-term. Their first 5 games are brutal.
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12 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:
Genius.
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12 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:
I’m not convinced Corn is going to be great or even average under Rhule in year one. When he gets the criminals in like he did at Baylor then Nebraska will be back.
I don't think Nebraska will ever be back.
The Big 12 nixed Prop 48/partial qualifiers, which was a sticking point leading to their decline. B1G doesn't accept them either. Where are they getting recruits these days? I don't care enough about Corn to look.
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@Al_4_ISU I like the colors on your 2013 throwback better. What did that helmet look like, anyway? How long were the ISU teams called the AMES?
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On 4/22/2023 at 2:12 PM, Hagbard Celine said:
they are still 10 years away from reaching the ultimate end-state of reality at the aggy event horizon: fear and loathing
Fear?
What aggy frightened you?
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2 hours ago, 66BUFF said:
hanging Symbols and the Swastika
Chilocco Indian Agricultural School basketball team 1908-09
Symbols serve as a significant way to express identity within society. Crosses generally identify someone as a Christian, a hammer and sickle as a communist, and black and white houndstooth as a University of Alabama fan. Of course, that simple equation provides an arena for significant competition about exactly which symbol represents which ideas. The apparent incongruency of Native Americans wearing swastikas on their basketball uniforms (Chilocco Indian Agricultural School in Oklahoma, 1908) derives from the assumption that symbols have a defined meaning. As with identity labels generally, the meanings of symbols like the swastika shift over time, and seldom does a symbol have only one meaning.
The swastika is one symbol whose meaning is particularly contested today. In Europe and the United States, the swastika has become intimately tied to Nazi ideology since the Nazi party adopted it in 1920. Its use predates that adoption by millennia, found in artifacts from in North America, the Iranian plateau, South Asia, and various other locations. The meanings and explanations for these various appearances of the symbol are uncertain, but are generally assumed to be auspicious. (A 1933 pamphlet provides an interesting account of its presumed prehistorical meanings.) In regions such as South and East Asia (and among those who identify with those areas), the symbol is frequently used today not to convey a Nazi identity but as an auspicious symbol. While the Nazi swastika typically is right-facing, people in various parts of Asia display swastikas turned in either direction, often depending on the aesthetics of its creator and the context of its application.
With globalization, the swastika has become a point of contention. People in Europe and the Americas who use the symbol feel compelled to explain their use of the swastika to distance themselves from Nazi ideology. The standard line is that the swastika is an ancient, auspicious symbol that Hitler misused. When some in the EU proposed banning the swastika, groups of immigrants primarily from India campaigned against the ban. Ramesh Kallidia of the Hindu Forum of Britain reportedly asserted, “The swastika has been around for 5,000 years as a symbol of peace. This is exactly the opposite of how it was used by Hitler.”
While the swastika has apparently been used for millennia, though not always labeled with that Sanskrit-derived name, the narrative of pure origins and corruption homogenizes a complex symbol, assuming a singular, true meaning. Having no intrinsic content, the meanings of symbols, like identity labels, are constructed socially. Reading a meaning back into history or across communities misses that lack of inherent content. Therefore, both those who assume that any use of the swastika reflects Nazi ideology and those who assert that Hitler corrupted a positive ancient symbol construct a consistent meaning for the symbol that ignores the malleability of symbols
How the world loved the swastika - until Hitler stole it
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Published23 October 2014
ShareIMAGE SOURCE,STEVEN HELLER
By Mukti Jain CampionKievIn the Western world the swastika is synonymous with fascism, but it goes back thousands of years and has been used as a symbol of good fortune in almost every culture in the world. As more evidence emerges of its long pre-Nazi history in Europe, can this ancient sign ever shake off its evil associations?
In the ancient Indian language of Sanskrit, swastika means "well-being". The symbol has been used by Hindus, Buddhists and Jains for millennia and is commonly assumed to be an Indian sign.
Early Western travellers to Asia were inspired by its positive and ancient associations and started using it back home. By the beginning of the 20th Century there was a huge fad for the swastika as a benign good luck symbol.
In his book The Swastika: Symbol Beyond Redemption? US graphic design writer Steven Heller shows how it was enthusiastically adopted in the West as an architectural motif, on advertising and product design.
IMAGE SOURCE,STEVEN HELLER Image caption,
20th Century fad: Fruit packaging, a Coca-Cola pendant, and a pack of cards, all from the US"Coca-Cola used it. Carlsberg used it on their beer bottles. The Boy Scouts adopted it and the Girls' Club of America called their magazine Swastika. They would even send out swastika badges to their young readers as a prize for selling copies of the magazine," he says.
It was used by American military units during World War One and it could be seen on RAF planes as late as 1939. Most of these benign uses came to a halt in the 1930s as the Nazis rose to power in Germany.
The Nazi use of the swastika stems from the work of 19th Century German scholars translating old Indian texts, who noticed similarities between their own language and Sanskrit. They concluded that Indians and Germans must have had a shared ancestry and imagined a race of white god-like warriors they called Aryans.
Is that you, Dr. Jones?
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1 hour ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:
Now let's do Affect and Effect.
What to Know
Affect is usually a verb meaning "to produce an effect upon," as in "the weather affected his mood." Effect is usually a noun meaning "a change that results when something is done or happens," as in "computers have had a huge effect on our lives." There are exceptions, but if you think of affect as a verb and effect as a noun, you’ll be right most of the time.
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12 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:
What ideal home game number did CDC give in the virtual town hall? I think he said 8.
That’ll be tough sledding with 1 game in Dallas for eternity.
Regardless, Texas is going to need 2 guaranteed annual home games from their OOC schedule. So System school + Rice or the like. It’s not sexy, but it’s what they’ll have to do.
We only get 4 SEC home games every other year, right, with a 9-game league slate?
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55 minutes ago, vtaenz said:
Definitely not an upgrade.
Silver stripes on white? Those get washed out, so why bother?
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1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:
But DiStefano said “there’s a very good possibility” the next deal will bring in per-school revenues ranking third among the Power 5 conferences, ahead of the Big 12 and Atlantic Coast conferences.
This reads like a lot of these PAC assclowns deserve each other.
Or perhaps he's giving CU an out if Klownkoff doesn't deliver?
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