Among friends and family I would refer to the Texas - ISU game as the 'Tism Bowl during the Herman tenure, watching him and Campbell tangle was an excruciating watch every time. Personally I don't know what it is but I cannot stand Campbell even in the limited bits I've seen of him, and it's puzzling to me how he managed to pick up acclaim. Upsetting teams as an underdog can be done anywhere, anytime, by anyone, it takes belief and passion but it's not the worst place to be in psychologically in sports and particularly in college football. Having a talented team and getting beat by the Ragin' Cajun and limply conceding defeat in the 4th quarter was enough for me to condemn Campbell as a HC at any serious blue blood. Being bitch made on the field but coming at fans off the field is exactly what this guy has always been made of, and maybe he just didn't have the delusional self confidence at the start of his tenure to let it show. He needs a small ish program with low expectations, forgiving sports media and that's the ideal pairing for a guy like this, ditto Herman.