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  1. 2 hours ago, scottsins said:


    I also would like to know how much time elapsed form initial engagement to the shooter making his way to that actual classroom. Was there enough time for an alert to be made so that all teachers would be able to get their doors locked?

    Edit: I guess this particular school had direct access to individual classrooms via doors from outside of the building, so it makes more sense now that the door wouldn’t be locked by the teacher yet.

    It makes it even more apparent that the shooter had to be engaged immediately and aggressively.

    the timeline from the wreck of shooter to entering the classroom to breach of classroom door by LEO is going to be interesting. 

  2. 3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

     

     

    Was their PC political grandstanding? Sure. And are they hiding behind the grief of families and dead children? 100%. But that doesn't matter. Why? Because like it or not, folks expect elected officials to give press conferences during disasters. But you show up as a candidate looking to interrupt, and it will 100% be seen by most casual people as a political stunt, and likely a tasteless one considering the timing. Beto was mostly unintelligible over the TV the whole thing lasted a minute. The headlines will write themselves, people will have a bad taste in their mouths. Abbot didn't get hurt in this exchange. He wasn't shamed. It wasn't a debate where he looked clueless of how to answer. Abbot didn't say shit, and the mayor of Uvalde cussed out Beto and he was removed. What's the positive take away from that, for anyone? Folks voting for Beto are voting for Beto, ditto abbot, but I can't see this swaying anyone in the middle, if those people even exist anymore. And someone can inform me how what he did aids in preventing the "next batch of dead kids." Everyone on that stage can get fucked as far as I'm concerned, but I don't see how this helps anything. I can certainly see how it can be skewed as insensitive and tasteless. 

    What he should have done was contact some folks and hold his own press conference. Where at least people could hear what he was saying.  

    If my quick research of the topic is correct the mayor of Uvalde can be audibly heard calling Beto a "sick son of a bitch."

  3. 1 minute ago, UnivTex34 said:

    Patting themselves on the back for law enforcement response keeping it from being worse, giving excuses for why it was inevitable, blaming mental health and not a gun problem. 

     

    If it is a simple PC, then why was it not just the Gov? Why the dream team? It was a political stunt.

    If you think that outburst helps Beto, you're a fool. I dislike him and Abbott but that was not a smart move by him. Like I said, he's mostly correct but that wasn't the time to do that.

  4. Just now, UnivTex34 said:

    So those morons get to grandstand on the bodies of those dead kids but its not the time and place for Beto?

     

    What am I missing?

     

     

    You don't make a political posturing move at a press conference like that the very next day after the loss of that many lives. If you want to attack on the campaign trail that is one thing....but that press conference wasn't the place.

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  5. 11 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

    Those cowards on stage hide behind the grief of parents with dead kids. Of course it’s political. Also, Beto is right- they’ve done nothing and this will continue to happen until  laws change. 

    While I agree that he is mostly right, I don't agree with all his philosophies on gun control, but that press conference wasn't the time or place for that kind of outburst.

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  6. 9 minutes ago, DaysOff said:


    Don't take this as a personal attack, but you must not have a spouse that works in the district. THERE. IS. NO. FUNDING. FOR. ANYTHING.*






    *except Taj mahals for administration and football stadiums

    Yup, public schools are cutting positions, they're understaffed, and from what I've read over the last 5-6 years there has been a 25%'ish reduction in new teacher certifications. On top of the funding getting taken away the burden of stuff that doesn't really apply to teaching students is getting increased.

     

    The state keeps on throwing more and more bullshit "data" the teachers have to log and track of each pupil that takes away from teach time. Kids aren't kids anymore from the way I see it....they're a number driven by data and pushed through a system the state doesn't want to fund.

     

     

    My wife is a teacher and just hearing all the bullshit that gets pushed down through the state onto the districts is ridiculous. I wouldn't blame any teacher that wants to get out of the field going forward.

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  7. 1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

    He had to have passed a background check to get those if obtained legally.  So now what?  He was reported multiple times apparently.  Red Flag laws?  Define how in this instance it would have deterred his psychotic spree?  His parents tried to kick him out multiple times, but is there any indication he made threats about shootings?

    Align red flag laws and mental health?  That has been the constant in every one of these?  The mental health of the young shooter.  I can get behind that, but how does the definition and implementation look like?

    That background check is a fucking joke. 

  8. Just now, BabaYaga said:

    So a guy that carved up his own face with a knife and murdered his own grandmother would be dissuaded by "harder" laws?  do we even know if the gun was obtained legally?  I'm not pushing back, but what exactly does this look like?  A waiting period?  A background?  Many places have those already, especially the background which is required on every purchase.  

    You're fucking retarded, gtfo dipshit.

    The background check that takes 2 fucking minutes now? I literally drove to a bass pro near my house, picked out a firearm, purchased fire arm, and you know what took the longest of that process? Waiting for a guy at the counter who was with another customer. The wait was 15 minutes, from the time I spoke to the counter guy to the time I walked out of the store was a 30 minute process. So yeah guns are way too easily obtained.

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  9. Just now, BabaYaga said:

    So no more gun and ammo purchases?  That's it?  

    The point was he was crazy, destructive, and psychotic.  Talk about taking a gun from him to stop his rage is like arguing taking away a knife and fork is going to help a compulsive eater lose weight.  

    You're either dumb or being willfully obtuse. The process to obtain a gun is far to easy even legally. Literally can be done in 30-45 minutes without a CHL.

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  10. 1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

    There is a cop parked out front of my kids middle school and almost always at the high school.  They are also newer schools, with double doors at each entrance that you have to be buzzed in to enter.  The elementary also has volunteer dads walking the grounds every single day (WatchDOGS)

    The state powers actively want to take funds away from public schools though so there goes your whole premise.

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  11. 2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

    Dog shit beliefs like “we should actually do something tangible to actually prevent more tragedies involving children?”

     

    well that’s a take I guess. 

    I was more referencing Bernard and those types. Everyone knows we should do something to make a change for the better and continuing to do nothing keeping status quo isn’t the solution. 
     

     

    What’s crazy is I can be in and out of just about any gun retailer in less than 1 hour with a weapon of my choice and I don’t even have a CHL. 
     

     

    The system needs to be completely overhauled, more restrictions, more strenuous background checks, psych checks, etc. 

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  12. 32 minutes ago, Balcones said:

    Uvalde is a town of 16,000 people.

    The school district has its own police department.

    https://www.ucisd.net/Page/2120

    The primary goal for the Uvalde CISD Police Department is to maintain a safe and secure environment for our future leaders to learn and our current leaders to educate while forming partnerships with students, teachers, parents, and the community while enforcing laws and reducing fears. We are committed to supporting the district's mission, to the highest level of professionalism, integrity and improve the quality of work by providing employees with effective leadership, supervision, and training.

    Wonder how many police they have on that force? I’d wager not enough to cover all campuses during school hours. 

  13. 10 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

    Luxul is higher level wifi gear. I'd look around rooms to see if you see wifi devices mounted on ceiling or upper walls etc. You likely won't need anything but ISP connection.

    Definitely reach out to prior owner if can as anyone putting that in will be "excited" to tell you about it.

    There is a Wi-Fi router located in the stairwell(middle of the house essentially). If he leaves the hardware I’ll have our realtor reach out to his for more information. Unsure the etiquette of that relationship. 

  14. Just now, Bernard said:

    True. We are very early in learning the facts of the case. I’ll stand corrected if new facts dispute my current jump-to-conclusions. Obviously, I’m biased. Of course we all know that cops are compulsive liars, so there’s always those pesky facts that get buried. Time will tell.

    It’s all tragic regardless. My mom was an elementary school teacher. So this hits close to home.

    Bernard

    Dude stfu

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  15. 37 minutes ago, Fletch said:

    Friend of mine works at UT and had to work on Saturday cause yeah.  It sounded kind of hilarious. Like he was pushing his stupid fucking book and bragging about how he and Oprah are tight and whatnot. Can he just fuck off forever? He shits on the school that only offered him cause his brother was a beast every chance he gets. Loud, obnoxious, not as smart or cool or funny or interesting as he thinks he is. @ztejas after a 4 day bender and a few hits of meth would’ve been better than this self absorbed fuckwad 

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    Embarassing.

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