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  1. 1 hour ago, NoName said:

    if you are going to talk shit about NIL and raising money, go pay for burnt ends first.

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    It's really the only reason I joined so I can bitch about NIL. If I wasn't a Burnt Ends subscriber all my bitching wouldn't matter, well matter significantly less than it already does. Regardless pay into burnt ends or you're a dumbass retard who should shut the fuck up.

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  2. 27 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

    Genuine question from someone uninformed as to how this all goes down: what's the difference with this shit between football and basketball?  It's obvious that we've had some sort of "infrastructure" for basketball recruiting for a few decades now.  Why are we having so much trouble translating that to football?  Common sense says given the interests of our fanbase, you'd think it would be the opposite.  Although maybe this is one of those things where it's better to have less cooks in the kitchen.

    AAU system already in place with basketball as well as the shoe companies. 

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  3. 2 minutes ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

    Most of you goofballs wanted to trade Sark for Traylor. Texas fans are so hyperbolic and Fickell it’s become embarrassing 

    FIFY, would be my choice next go round. 

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  4. 1 minute ago, Laga4 said:

    I understand what immamac is saying and I like what he is doing,  but I don't think that the money for aggy,  bama,   or any school playing the bag game comes from the bubbas that get a 30pack and watch the game on their 80" TV in their trailer house.  

    Big money runs the country and big money runs college football. Until we figure a way to get the big money involved in a way they are comfortable we are going to be running with the little dogs. 

    I think CTJ/Sydney or maybe Barbacoa said it's essentially the lower to upper mid donors slushing it up essentially. 

  5. Just now, C-Man said:

    Good thing Nick Sabans grow on trees!

    And Brian Kelly is getting $15M/year? Holy fuck. Would I rather have him at Texas instead of Sark? Yes. Would I like to have Kelly a 3X Sark's salary? Absolutely not. I'd pay Saban that money, maybe Urban, but nobody else.

    Better get used to it. The USC, Michigan State, and LSU just elevated the going rate and perks. Will be interested to see what we do in 2-3 years when we are looking for Sark's replacement.

  6. 23 hours ago, texasstrong12 said:

    Matt Rhules last 5 years as a head coach. 

    1-11, 7-6, 11-3, 5-11, and 5-7. 

    What he did to rebuild Baylor in 3 years was impressive but I think he's drastically overrated and I said this after he left Baylor. 

    Being able to do that at two different programs, especially one that pretty much was gutted when he took over is very very impressive. His NFL results don't matter IMO.

     

     

  7. 4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

    You guys that like to take dumps on this board about the “big money donors” are projecting your ire poorly. The BMDs are a fucking strength of the AD and when properly harnessed, project as a competitive advantage. They’re also not some faceless man pulling strings on coaches and shit. They have this really bad habit of saying “yes, but I’d like to understand it all” when asked for money. Shockingly, they want to help but they’re not buffoons and they didn’t hit 8, 9, or 10 zeros behind a digit in net worth by being morons. 

    I’ve preached all along that NIL needs to be a layer cake from top to bottom of interested parties and a lot is coming along fast and some of it unrelated to each other. But $5/month still matters a whole fucking lot and Surly is a good example how that can ultimately be harnessed. Some things take a while and some things can happen fast, we’ll see a lot soon and have done a lot already. 

    Beyond all of that, I will stand by what I’ve been saying for 6 months after digging into it and talking to people who cover this stuff with depth - the dark market (bag game) will dissipate over time if the right amount of money is an alternative to point to in a legitimate market (NIL). That will take a cycle or two to be proven true, so folks won’t have to wait too long to call me an idiot if the bag game isn’t relegated to a corner case issue for shitbirds by the 2024/2025 classes. 

    What's the time line for it to dissipate? 1 year? 2-3? 4-5? 5+?

     

    I, for one, understand it's not wise for the true big money guys to be involved with the game. Has to come from elsewhere.

    NIL will be very good if we properly set it up like you all are trying to do. We just need those big guys who shouldn't participate in the other game to participate in this legal game. I think all it would take is an initial investment by 1 or 2 to set the foundation for what you guys truly want to achieve. Just need them to step up so we can get this ball rolling.

  8. 12 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    He’s tired of having to deal with higher than competition academic standards, so he is going to a place with no academic standards. 

     

    12 hours ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

    Who the fuck leaves nutter dame for lsu? Fucking lmao

    A national title is the only thing holding back Kelly from being in the next echelon of college coaches. 

  9. 48 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

    Do you think this is the case because the culture is not built into the university? I think it's a chicken or the egg kind of thing. "We've never done this before, why start now?" The infrastructure is more than just distribution. It's educating those with the power ($) on the benefits of playing the game. Instead, I believe they choose to believe they can just overcome it with "look at our great city" and "We're Texas!" and "we're doing it the right way".

     

    I believe the NIL part will work out, eventually. However, we're talking about recruiting, which is a completely different animal. Telling a kid what he can make next year vs. handing him a bag of cash right now have two totally different impacts.

     

    Many fans don't even want to watch our current team, much less pay the players. I also doubt most fans trust giving money to a slush fund, just my opinion.

    I agree 1000% with the bolded.

     

    Also completely agree with NIL eventually being the meal ticket but as it currently stands bag game to get recruits > promise of fat NIL on campus.

     

     

    Also probably a decent time to repost this article from 2014: https://www.bannersociety.com/2014/4/10/20703758/bag-man-paying-college-football-players

  10. 13 minutes ago, Newy25 said:


    The reasons cited for not firing coaches already is the potential impact on recruiting. Coleman is an absolute zero in recruiting and our lone WR commit has nothing to do with him. Firing him now has no impact on recruiting so we shouldn’t waste any more time having him on our staff. Having an open position helps clarify who is potentially an option. The Stewart and Hudson news should only solidify the fact that having Coleman around for recruiting optics ahead of NSD is a waste of everyone’s time. The man is more slothful version of Giles. 

    Especially with all these coaching changes. Good candidates are going to get swiped up. 

  11. Just now, SarkAfterDark said:

    It is still a short sighted decision on his part. He probably could have made 300k+ at UT or Bama easy on top of what was paid upfront and been in an offense that would feature him and probably put him in a better position to go to the NFL. So I agree even with the money this was a dumbass decision for his career. 

    lmao not here.... aggies are giving up front money and giving huge NIL deals. we're so fucking behind.

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