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  1. 1 minute ago, shadow_operative said:

    do you want me to go make a highlight reel of the countless times that Sam overthrew wide open receivers and held onto the for 5 seconds on Saturday, because i can promise you it will be a lot longer and more compelling than the one gif you've used as "definitive proof" that Sam never has any time to throw. 

    Yes. 

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  2. 1 minute ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

    It doesn’t matter what our argument is. I don’t think anyone disagrees I’m saying like others is that’s not CDC style. Mid season firing in college football is very rare. USC did it? I mean maybe I’m missing all the mid season firings that happen every year?

    Dude it’s been pointed out to you multiple programs on our level of program has done it. And as the poster said earlier this isnt 1995 anymore. Early signing period has changed the game and we need to adjust or we will fall behind in two recruiting cycles, not just one. 

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  3. 2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

    21 million dollars that we don't have unless donors want to pay the buyout. The same reason Shaka is still at Texas. 

    Look, I'll be very happy to be wrong on all counts. I don't see him pulling this out. He had his chance with new coordinators and it's more of the same. 

    Does aggy ever have any money for the dumb shit they do? No, but they find a way to get it done. 

  4. Just now, Herpa Derpa said:

    This ain't 1995 anymore.  Early signing day is December 16, 2020.  Not firing a lame duck Coach prior to that day is poor management.  Keep Tom until after the season and then fire him, and you're likely going to obliterate both the 2021 and 2022 classes.  You do it as soon as you decide it's going to need to be done.  Anything else is what shit programs do.

    Yup!!!

  5. 1 minute ago, mdmost said:

    Ha. He's 2-2, not 0-4 or 1-3. Get me a list of non-shit programs that fire their coach mid season. I'll wait. 

    Bottom line, Veruca. He's not getting fired until the end of the season, regardless of how much you stomp your feet and want it now. 

    And that’s a problem. This 2021 recruiting class is a toast if we wait until after the season. 
     

    were fucked if we don’t fire mid season just because dynamics of recruiting now days. 

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  6. 9 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

    Could you give the long story short version of what a UH punter has to say about coaching??......  I’m not listening to a punter talk for a hour to get whatever hot take he had.  I made it 5-10 and didn’t hear shit worth listening to.  Never was a fan of the Tom hire but find it hard to believe that a Aussie punter has a must listen hour long podcast for a hot take on coaching a sport he knew nothing about before punting for UH.

    The long story short is Herman quit on the UH team about midway through the season when he knew he was going to be leaving for us/lsu at the time. 
     

    all the players noticed his attitude changed and seemed disengaged with them. 

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  7. Just now, Rockethorn1978 said:

    I didn’t say I didn’t want it to happen, I’m saying cdc isn’t the type of guy to fire mid season. Just doesn’t seem his style at all, it’s gonna be at seasons end which will roll into a “coaching search” process and multiple candidates even if he knows he wants urban he will still do the process stuff. Similar to the long process of hiring a OC and DC. 
     

    I know we all want a cut throat AD that just flat out says “I want Urban” and hires him 1 day later but so far that doesn’t seem to be CDC at all. 

    And that’s why we are a shit program. Any reasonable athletic department that takes football serious would fire him mid season. Keeping him around until after the season just to fire him literally does not good and causes more harm. 

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  8. 5 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

    There’s a zero chance Herman gets fired today. I can’t believe some of y’all are seriously thinking it will happen. 
     

    If he gets fired it will be at seasons end.

    The bye week is the best time to fire him. No point in keeping a lame duck coach to the end of the season. Especially with early signing period in recruiting now. 
     

    you’re probably right though. 
     

    it’s best to move on and begin the search/hiring process to salvage the 2021 class and start working their 2022 class 

  9. Tbh it boils down to lack of accountability and leadership by Herman and as the article above states CDC. The agreement about the song was done. Nothing was relayed to players of any sport. It should have been athletic department wide decision that players should or shouldn’t do. Not up to individual coaches of their respective sport. 
     

    Not having a department wide plan for what players will do regarding the eyes have made it a much bigger issue than it should have been. 
     

    Personally I feel like all players should stand with the fans as tradition is after the game. Singing, not singing, throwing up the hook em, not throwing up the hook em isn’t the issue. Walking off after defeats without respecting the fans and etc who built this program is the much larger issue and that lack of discipline shows.

     

    I think the volleyball team is handling this perfectly. They tried a few different things but finally lined up and chose not to sing while still throwing the hook em up. 
     

     

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  10. Cross posting from the CDC thread. A pretty good read. 
     

     

    athletic director Chris Del Conte is failing at his job. There is no other way to put it. It is hard to sugarcoat. Impossible to ignore.

    Oh, Del Conte is good at telling jokes at fundraisers. He has a great sense of humor. If you want to drink and hear a guy tell jokes, Del Conte can provide entertainment that rivals any comedian on open mic night. Heck, Del Conte’s biggest achievement was creating Bevo Blvd., a lively street with food trucks, music and alcohol. Del Conte was responsible for creating concerts after Longhorn home games, prior to the pandemic, of course. Del Conte definitely knows how throw a damn good party.

    When it comes to making hard decisions about his coaching staff (dating back to TCU), leading an athletic department, or preventing The Eyes of Texas tradition from becoming arguably the most divisive issue between fans and players in school history, Del Conte is doing nothing to justify earning $2.5 million annually until 2027.

    Del Conte has created this chaos.

    He has to do a better job of finding solutions.

    Texas was defeated by Oklahoma, 53-45 (four overtimes), on Saturday. Oklahoma coach Lincoln Riley currently has a 4-1 record against Texas’ Tom Herman. Texas could not defeat one of the worst Oklahoma programs in recent memory. We saw Riley bench his starting quarterback, the ultimate surrender decision, and the same guy was reinserted after halftime and led his team to victory.

    The Longhorns are 2-2, but it took a miracle comeback against Texas Tech to prevent a 1-3 start. Texas recovered the onside kick and pulled off a victory when it had less than a one-percent chance of winning with around three minutes remaining. Nobody can take the win off Texas’ record. However, it helps to remember how fortunate this team is not to be 0-3 in the Big 12 right now.

    After the game, Herman looked defeated. He reminded me of the President who aged dramatically after four years in office. Herman did not have any answers. He talked about how great practice was last Sunday in an effort to show how close his program is to winning football games like this. The coach did not understand his fan base is more concerned about the product they are witnessing each Saturday.

    This is the moment when you save a fighter from himself. Herman is not winning the way he or the fan base desires. Recruiting is not going well. Literally, a player quit during the middle of a game this season. Longhorn fans are pissed about his team’s lack of participation in The Eyes of Texas. Herman will not throw in the towel, but I sensed if Del Conte tapped him on the shoulder after Saturday’s game and said they should discuss an exit plan, deep down, Herman might be relieved to get out of this situation. That is just my opinion and nothing I heard from my sources.

    Herman was originally under contract until 2021, which meant both sides could have happily parted ways after this season.

    Instead, Del Conte gave Herman a two-year extension in 2019, months after the Sugar Bowl victory. Herman is still slated to make $6.25 million in 2021, and Del Conte added $6.5 million in 2022 and $6.75 million in 2023. This is the equivalent of staying married until the children graduate from high school.

    By the way, Del Conte also gave running backs coach Stan Drayton and offensive lineman coach Herb Hand raises back in May. Drayton was bumped up from $640,000 to $700,000. Hand’s salary increased from $515,000 to $650,000.

    Only $19.5 million for Herman’s contract, plus add in a little extra for his assistants?

    Just ask those big money donors to cut a check, right?

    You mean the same people who are ticked off about players not participating in The Eyes of Texas?

     
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    I received multiple messages from sources this weekend saying the athletic department has lost at least $25 million in pledges in the past two weeks. That number may not be 100 percent accurate, but longtime fans are withholding their financial support.

    By the way, Del Conte expected several donors to cut checks for the south endzone project in December. The completion of that project is in trouble at this rate.

    Del Conte should have resolved this issue before the season.

    In July, Texas President Jay Hartzell rolled out a comprehensive set of proposals to create a more diverse and welcoming campus, including plans to allocate Athletics’ revenue to recruit and support Black students, rename the Robert L. Moore Building, and honor Black trailblazers at UT through new campus symbols. Hartzell said the university would keep “The Eyes of Texas” as the university’s song but would work to own the history of the song while reclaiming and redefining what the song stands for.

    “The Eyes of Texas, in its current form, will continue to be our alma mater. Aspects of its origin, whether previously widely known or unknown, have created a rift in how the song is understood and celebrated, and that must be fixed,” Hartzell said in a press release. “It is my belief that we can effectively reclaim and redefine what this song stands for by first owning and acknowledging its history in a way that is open and transparent.

    “Together, we have the power to define what the Eyes of Texas expect of us, what they demand of us, and what standard they hold us to now. The Eyes of Texas should not only unite us, but hold all of us accountable to our institution’s core values. But we first must own the history. Only then can we reimagine its future, and I look forward to partnering with our campus community to do just that.”

    At that point, the controversy should have been over.

    The President did his part. Dr. Leonard Moore successfully talked players out of boycotting the season and was no longer involved in any athletic discussions. Longhorn players openly applauded the initiatives. I thought it was a very fair compromise for everyone involved.

    Del Conte’s task was simple.

    Inform the players they need to resume participating in the tradition. They did not have to sing the song, but he expected them to stay after games.

    Simple.

    Instead, Del Conte never expressed his expectations with student-athletes, which is why there has been chaos. Many cheerleaders did not participate in The Eyes during Texas’ recent home game against TCU. Several band members have said they will not play the song. The football team – black and white players – have skipped the tradition this season. The volleyball team recently stayed on the court but did not acknowledge the song.


    That administrative failure is on Del Conte.

    I know some fans are blaming the “woke” generation or “social justice warriors” for what is occurring right now. I get that frustration. Nobody wants to be labeled a racist when those sentiments are not in their heart. Fans view this song as a tradition. They played the song at weddings, parties, and it was a source of school pride. I understand the anger.

    Yet, I look at how other athletic departments across the country handled the current climate better than Del Conte.

    Oklahoma State running back Chuba Hubbard threatened to boycott all team activities after a tweet surfaced of coach Mike Gundy wearing a One America News Network T-shirt. I was not convinced Gundy could prevent a player revolt.

    Yet, they put those issues aside and unified.

    Oklahoma football players decided not to practice and marched for social and racial justice. That could have ripped apart the team. Instead, there were several productive conversations between players, administrators and coaches.

    In addition, the athletic department decided to place a “Black Lives Matter” and “Sooners for Humanity” patch on team jerseys this season.

    Texas?

    Del Conte told the football staff this week they had to participate in the tradition after games to show respect to their fans. Unfortunately, Del Conte did not have a conversation with players and express his expectations. He definitely has done nothing to publicly express any solutions to the fan base.

    As a result, Sam Ehlinger and Cameron Dicker were the only players I saw participating in The Eyes after the Oklahoma loss, while everyone else was in the locker room.

    That was unacceptable.

    If Del Conte can receive credit for creating a carnival atmosphere, he has to be accountable for this circus.

    Del Conte should tap Herman on the shoulder this week and express the importance of finishing this season 8-2, or at least 7-3, because Longhorn fans are tired of losing.

    In addition, Del Conte should sit down with players in every sport and express his expectations. I am not saying Del Conte needs to bang the table in anger. Instead, he has to be the leader Texas needs at this moment.

    Del Conte has created this chaos.

    He has to do a better job of finding solutions.

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  11. 1 minute ago, immamac said:

    You know why I'm fucking mad? Because this god damned website has turned into a racist pile of shit, you stupid mother fuckers are doing your damnedest to run everyone off who made this place funny and enjoyable. Now it's just fucking embarrassing. You fucking embarrass me.

    To be fair I firmly believe the song is irrelevant and the players are looking for an excuse to bail. They stay after wins leave after 2 losses. 
     

    sucks people are getting run off by other people but moderation has always been shit. Perhaps delete the politics section and get rid of political post in general. Those sections bring our the worst. It’s also ruined the rep system. If you get rid of the political posters it creates a much better environment 

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  12. Just now, immamac said:

    you are so welcome to fuck right back off to horn fans or shaggytexas i hear they don't moderate over there at all and you can spew your insane bile there with no repercussions. 

    Stop fucking up threads and attacking players for stuff that doesn't happen on the field and is frankly none of your god damned business.

    You sound mad. Maybe you should petition and walk off the site

  13. 2 minutes ago, immamac said:

    hey, uh...this thread is really fucked up and isn't even a discussion anymore it's just a bunch of poo flinging idiocy.

    The rules are what the rules are, Athletes don't need to sing the eyes after games. It doesn't matter why, it doesn't matter when they don't, etc etc. That ship has sailed.

    This thread is now for the fallout of said choices. No more talk about players and their decisions to or not to sing the eyes. Talking about a lone player staying back to sing it as admirable and respectable or whatever is fine, but don't go throwing darts at the rest of the team for anything other than team duties/responsibilities. 

    I will just start deleting shit talking about "woke" this and "racist" that. Shut the fuck up you miserable fucking cunts.

    Thanks you. Glad to be apart of horn fans. 

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