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27 minutes ago, texifornia said:
Doomed
Are we though? It’s Vasek…
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Nahlin on Arch
What better way to enter the Arch Manning visit weekend than with a post that’s part recap, part sharing our thoughts and opinions. This template is a good delivery system for just that.
What we know
— Texas has been squarely in this recruitment since Steve Sarkisian was hired. While Sark’s reputation for offense and quarterback development is the driving force behind this recruitment, he is aided by the Manning family’s appreciation for the university stretching back decades.
— We nailed very early key aspects in this recruitment that have led us to this point — lack of interest in Ole Miss, Clemson falling off, Bama being passed by Georgia, and Texas still standing despite going 5-7 last season. The reasons Texas has outlasted everyone, save Georgia, are the reasons UT is still in it — the Mannings have a holistic approach rather than simply centered on football wins and losses. However, that isn’t to minimize the football component. The Mannings are very business oriented — which is another plus for Texas — but football is also business school for them.
— Of course winning is important, but a key reason for that is it creates stability. We will come back to stability, but the only reason this recruitment is ongoing is because Texas didn’t do enough on the field last season.
— An enduring legacy (at a third school) is another component to account for. We know it’s a factor, but what we don’t know is how much weight it carries.
— Arch is a well adjusted, normal teenager. He wants to blend in and be one of the guys. While there is a very bright spotlight that comes with being the quarterback at Texas, that is an aspect he’ll never be able to escape due to his last name. In that regard, it doesn’t matter where he goes. As a student, however, it is easier to blend in at UT (unless you grow a mullet and drive an Aston Martin). He already has a good feel for campus life and is comfortable due to having numerous friends at Texas. He wants to shoulder as little Big Man on Campus status as he can.
— Arch wants to be class leader but also wants to have a decent understanding of who he can help bring to UT. He has certainly put out feelers to Texas targets, but the same can be said of players Georgia is pursuing as well. His recruiting impact would be greater at Texas.
— There are a handful of quality prospects who would pick Texas to land Arch. We are not as familiar with recruits in the Southeast so buyer beware on that point.
What we think we know
— I think I personally misjudged the importance of the weekend. Though I believe Texas remains the team to beat, this isn’t a coming home party where it’s time to celebrate. This will be Sark’s last in-person chance to show how different the program is from last October/November.
— This is boiling down to the two different types of stability: Program stability at Georgia and offensive/development stability at Texas. If Arch selected Georgia, there would be uncertainty over what offensive minds he would play for. Current offensive coordinator Todd Monken is upwardly mobile and unlikely to be in Athens much longer.
— I think Bama is out. The only thing keeping me from declaring it a two-horse race is respect for Nick Saban. Can you ever really count him out? I mostly have at this point, but not 100% entirely.
— Sark receives praise from the football side of the Manning family, to include Archie, Peyton, and Eli. We heard this when Sark was hired and believe it to be true today, but we’re not sure if it extends to program management or is based more so on offensive acumen, development, and play calling.
— Depth charts about cancel each other out. If Arch selects Georgia, he would be in a three-way battle to start with Carson Beck and Brock Vandagriff, two talented players who will have waited their turn behind Stetson Bennett. If Quinn Ewers wins the job at Texas this season, he’s probably a two-and-out starter like CJ Stroud and Bryce Young. It’s likely Arch would redshirt at each school as he adjusts from high school to college.
What we’re unsure of
— How much influence does his father Cooper wield and what is his ultimate preference? We’ve all heard this decision is Arch’s to make, but when push comes to shove, as it will shortly, will that remain the case? This isn’t to say Cooper doesn’t prefer Texas, we just don’t know. He’s probably a good card player.
— Are there any other family concerns that carry weight?
— How much does legacy, and all that comes with it, mean? Is he a builder or a joiner? I think if he was purely a joiner he’d already be committed to Georgia or Alabama. But again, how much does it factor in on his decision?
— Are relationships on the UGA side as strong as the ones at UT? This question extends to relationships of all types, especially between the player and coaching staffs. We know Arch’s relationship is very strong with Sark and AJ Milwee.
— How will the trade-offs between the two types of stability shake out. That’s the key to the drill, as Sarkisian would say. If Manning chooses Georgia, assuming he eventually becomes the starter he’ll be drafted, but how ready will he be for the NFL? We very likely will have no idea who developed him. If Manning chooses Texas, assuming he eventually becomes the starter he’ll be drafted high and will likely be well prepared for the NFL…you know, assuming Sark is still the head coach.
— Finally, it’s impossible to know what we don’t know. Is there a key factor or factors we’re unaware of?
The 5-7 season aside, win or lose, I’m not sure what the Texas side could have done better in this recruitment.-
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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:
No. There were some kind of elevation issues.
Gotcha, they definitely need to renovate that side somehow and upgrade the restrooms and concessions.
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Do y'all think they'll eventually make the west side tie into the SEZ and east side?
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11 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:
BO&W is a Longhorn

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44 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:
Do you know the terms of Bijan's NIL deal with lambo? It could just be the privilege of free rental for a year, which isn't worth much in dollar terms. Let's say a lambo costs $300k and has a 10-year depreciable life, you're talking only $30k value per year. Bijan probably would just buy one when he goes pro.
Why does that matter? The fact that he's driving around in a Lambo is just a NIL status flex.....most recruits/players wouldn't care about the value of the Lambo as long as they're driving it due to the image it gives off.
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Gerry:
The Texas Longhorns’ huge official visit week begins today with On3 Consensus 4-star EDGE Colton Vasek beginning his official visit.
All told, there will be seven On3 Consensus 4-star and 5-star prospects making official visits this week headlined by No. 1 overall Arch Manning.
Inside Texas plays the recruiting game of yes, maybe or no headed to begin the official visit week. Yes is a Texas clear leader. Maybe are recruitments Texas has a legit chance to win. And No is pretty obvious.
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Will Randle, TE, New Orleans (La.) Isidore Newman
Texas remains on very solid footing footing for the future fleet tight end. Two RPM picks are in for the Longhorns.Maybe
Colton Vasek, EDGE, Austin (Texas) Westlake – June 14-16
Texas is seen as working from behind heading into the On3 Consensus four-star’s mid-week official visit. Oklahoma and Clemson are considered ahead of Texas currently. Vasek will head to Oregon for an official visit the day after the Texas OV concludes. The Texas legacy will have the red carpet treament from the Texas staff the next two days.Arch Manning, New Orleans (La.) Isidore Newman
I’m going to be blunt. Had Texas gone 7-5/8-4 last season and shown instant trajectory, this recruitment would have already been over. That did not happen, and now this is a true recruiting battle among three blue bloods.This remains an open recruitment and Kirby Smart had another weekly Tuesday night Zoom call with Arch and Cooper Manning last night. Georgia continues to sell stability strongly. Georgia is the favorite of a female family member or two.
Manning will take to Austin this weekend for his long anticipated official visit. Word is he is still trying to get an idea of who would join him at each school and he has as much interest in defensive players joining him in the class as he does offensive. In fact, he has reached to at least one defensive player to see if he’s visiting this weekend.
As far as Alabama goes, they are still all in on Arch. Nothing has changed with the commitment of Eli Holstein. As one college coach said last weekend, it’s always a mistake to count out Nick Saban. With that said, if it’s not Texas or Georgia color me surprised.
Jaquaize Pettaway, WR, Houston (Texas) Langham Creek
Oklahoma is the perceived leader heading into the Texas visit. Cale Gundy has done a very solid job with Pettaway since January. The Sooners are selling opportunity. Make no mistake that Oklahoma is worried about Texas. There was a push to get him to commit to the Sooners and shut it down prior to the Texas visit this weekend. That push has continued. Sarkisian and Brennan Marion are up to bat now. Pettaway and Marion have a very solid relationship.Mikal Harrison-Pilot, WR, Temple (Texas)
The Temple two-way standout is yet another Texas prospect Arch Manning keeps in contact with. He remains a priority regardless of where he wants to play. And that is wide receiver with Sarkisian and Marion leading up the recruitment. Similar to Pettaway, OU has the lead but the OV looms large. Interestingly, California is the staff MH-P liked the most headed into June. Houston also remains in the mix.Sydir Mitchell, DL, Oradell (N.J.) Bergen Catholic
Word Inside Texas has received from Mitchell’s Miami official visit over the weekend was that it wasn’t a home run. We shall see if that holds long term. This weekend, Texas will have the opportunity to show the 6-foot-4, 335-pounder that he is needed at the nose tackle spot with a depth chart that is about to lean up. Mitchell and his mother are in constant contact with Bo Davis. Neither Georgia or Texas A&M offer immediate playing time. Georgia has been considered the favorite for weeks, however. Mitchell is scheduled to make an official visit to Auburn on June 24-26. A summer decision is currently expected.Hunter Osborne, EDGE/DL, Trussville (Ala.) Hewitt-Trussville
Osborne and Texas continue to have strong communication leading into the official visit. Osborne has already made a June OV to Clemson. The Tigers are said to feel confident post visit. Tennessee and Florida are all squarely in the mix along with the Longhorns. A June 10 official visit to Auburn did not happen, which is of note. Bo Davis and Justice Finkley will be huge this weekend for the Longhorns’ chances.Malik Muhammad, CB, Dallas (Texas) South Oak Cliff
What began as a recruitment that included blue bloods from coast to coast is looking like it will come down to Texas A&M vs. Texas. There is confidence on the Aggies side. The Longhorns are squarely in the mix headed into the official visit.
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On3 Consensus 4-star linebacker Raul Aguirre was added to the official visit list last night. And he is a “no” headed into the visit. Alabama is the On3 Recruiting Prediction Machine leader after an official visit to Alabama last weekend, the same place Arch Manning visited. Florida has received an official visit, and Ohio State is scheduled for June 24. Arkansas and Miami also factors into this one.
My’Keil Gardner, DL, Peioria (Ariz.) Liberty
Inside Texas continues to place Gardner in the Oregon lean category. The 6-foot-3, 285-pounder has made official visits to Wisconsin and Michigan this month, but it’s the visit to Eugene set for June 24-26 that is the one to watch. The Wolverines are considered a threat to Oregon after the weekend visit. Texas knows they are working from behind on this one. This one could come down to who truly pushes for a summer commitment. -
Bobby:
The Texas football team is expected to host at least nine recruits on official visits this weekend.
QB, Arch Manning, New Orleans Newman
WR, Jaquaize Pettaway, Houston Langham Creek
WR, Mikal Harrison-Pilot, Temple
TE, Will Randle, New Orleans Newman
DL, Sydir Mitchell, Oradell (N.J.) Bergen Catholic
DL, My’Keil Gardner, Peoria (Ariz.) Liberty
DL, Hunter Osborne, Trussville (Ala.) Hewitt-Trussville
LB, Raul Aguirre, Fayetteville (Ga.) Whitewater
DB, Malik Muhammad, Dallas South Oak Cliff
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I write “at least nine” because there could be others who make it to campus this weekend.
One or two might be in an official capacity and others in an unofficial one. Don’t expect runaway crowds, but there may be a couple surprises.
There’s a lot of buzz behind the scenes about this weekend in Austin.
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The addition of Aguirre is intriguing. The Georgia LB prospect also visited Bama last week with Arch Manning.
Texas was not thought to be a primary competitor for his services until this official visit became a reality.
Time will tell just how involved Texas is. But it’s an interesting development nonetheless.
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While most everyone will be wondering about Arch Manning and his recruitment, it’s likewise a big weekend for Texas DL coach Bo Davis.
Davis is hosting three of his top prospects on the entire board.
Osborne is from the same high school as Texas freshman Justice Finkley. Osborne has been considering more traditional SEC schools other than Texas. So this visit is an opportunity for Davis and Texas to separate from the competition.
Davis identified Gardner early in the recruiting process. And Mitchell was first ID’ed by Kyle Flood, the current OL coach for the Horns, but Davis has taken an immense liking to him. And Mitchell seems to want a path to early playing time which Texas may be able to offer compared to other schools under consideration.
In all, Davis has three blue-chippers on campus. He’d likely be happy to come away with one of them at the end of the day. If he were to land two, he’d be ecstatic.
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I’m intrigued by both Jaquaize Pettaway and Mikal Harrison-Pilot.
When you have an offensive scheme like Texas, and have proven the ability to recruit or sign elite players like Sark has at the position, it’s always interesting to see which recruits get prioritization.
But the overall board still seems a little foggy.
After all, Johntay Cook and Jalen Hale have official visits scheduled elsewhere for this weekend, and Ryan Niblett isn’t scheduled until next weekend.
I’m just not sure how receiver recruiting will play out. But by bringing in Harrison-Pilot and Pettaway this early, it’s clear the Horns like them both enough to prioritize them out of the gate.-
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1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:
Seeing on some other boards this guy is OVing this weekend.
Nahlin:
Add Fayetteville (GA) linebacker Raul Aguirre to the weekend visitor list. Aguirre is coming off official visits to Florida and Alabama in successive weeks and will also see Ohio State the final weekend before the dead period. This will be a very difficult recruitment for Texas win, but step 1, getting him on campus, will happen this weekend.
Aguirre is the On3 Consensus No 131 player in the nation. I don’t know what his testing numbers and exact measurables are, but the tape is really good for an obviously bigger inside linebacker. He isn’t going to be too blocky to play in the modern game. Reference him playing deep in coverage and even at wide receiver to see what I mean. On top of those boxes being checked from a traits standpoint, he shows good vision and patience at linebacker. He understands keeping leverage on the ball carrier.
On the heels of a disappointing 2022 linebacker class, Jeff Choate has to hit paydirt in this cycle. He’s off to a strong start with North Crowley’s S’Maje Burrell already in the class. Choate also has Texas in the thick of things with Denton Ryan’s Anthony Hill, Marlin’s Derion Gullette, Kahuku’s (HI) Liona Lefau, and Lehi’s (UT) Tausili Akana.
Due to larger numbers in the cycle, and positional versatility between linebacker and Edge with some of the prospects, expect the staff to load up on as many of these guys as they can get. If need be, more targets will materialize — guys like Katy Paetow’s Daymion Sanford who recently picked up an offer.
Lefau took his official visit to Texas this past weekend and the staff finds itself on solid footing. Akana, also originally from Kahuku, took an unofficial visit to Texas last week, and his sister recently transferred from Nebraska to Texas to play volleyball. We’re not saying it’s likely Texas will land both, but it remains possible.
After this weekend’s Aguirre visit, Texas will host Burrell, Hill, and Gullette just before the dead period.
As you all know, this is a huge stretch for Texas recruiting in general, but also linebacker in particular.-
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On 6/10/2022 at 12:19 PM, LTtxfan said:
I like that tan one.
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Justin Wells - Julian Sayin
Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian is a known commodity when it comes to evaluating and developing the quarterback position. That certainly appeals to Carlsbad (Calif.) quarterback and On3 four-star Julian Sayin.
The 6-foot-1, 185-pound junior and the No. 3 quarterback in the 2024 class according to the On3 Consensus made his way back to Austin for the third time over the weekend prior to stops at LSU and Alabama. Sayin is digging UT’s offensive staff and the potential they present.
“I mean obviously what coach Sark has done with quarterbacks definitely stands out,” said Sayin. “I really like coach (AJ) Milwee and we’ve been building our relationship for a while now. (Texas) is very selective in who they want in the quarterback room, and they’re only going to offer a couple guys each cycle.”
With over 20 offers including Notre Dame, Georgia, USC, Texas, Michigan, Oregon, Texas A&M and Miami, Sayin knows exactly what he wants from his future college destination.
“A great relationship with the head coach, big football tradition and history, great fit in the program, and talent around me,” said Sayin.
In 2021, Sayin completed 181-of-253 passes for 2,769 yards and 34 touchdowns. He tallied 208 yards and two rushing touchdowns as well.
The Cali-bred quarterback has mentioned committing during his junior year, with October in mind. Inside Texas expects Sayin to make a return trip to Austin this fall.
According to the On3 Consensus, a complete and equally weighted industry-generated average that utilizes all four major recruiting media companies, Sayin ranks as the No. 9 overall prospect in the nation, the No. 3 quarterback, and No. 1 prospect in California. On3 ranks him as the No. 47 overall prospect and No. 6 quarterback nationally.
Sayin has an On3 NIL Valuation of $137K, ranking as No. 88 overall in the On3 High School NIL football rankings. The On3 NIL Valuation is the industry’s leading index that sets the standard market NIL value for high school and college-level athletes. A proprietary algorithm, the On3 NIL Valuation does not act as a tracker of the value of NIL deals an athlete has completed to date. It rather signifies an athlete’s value at a specific moment in time.
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6 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:
Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but I assume they decided THAT was the price they were willing to pay to get a championship. If they get it in year 5, then have a losing season in 6 and 7, they still got what they wanted. They'd run him out and pay somebody else an insane amount of money in hopes to rinse and repeat. Only way I could imagine those clowns would keep him around after two losing seasons is if Texas was also putting together similar records.
I think they just extended him or gave him more money with the exact same terms.
So if 3-4 years are remaining on said contract you have 27-36 million in fully guaranteed buyouts. That contract is 9+ million a year and increases 100k every year until final year in 2031.
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Will Randle got an RPM to Texas by Spiegleman as well as being Fong'd
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App State and Miami in non conference could be interesting especially early in the season.
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1 minute ago, slorch said:
SEC has two teams for relegation already? But they so good!!!
LOLz.
I think you're going to want Vandy, Kentucky, Indiana, and Maryland as complete athletic programs though.....
Once football breaks it's only a matter of time before CWS and March Madness break as well.I don't think it will be 30-40 but more like 60ish
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3 minutes ago, NoName said:
They are literally the other end of the spectrum from Clemson in this regard.
re: Switzer and Jimmy Johnson...Switzer never lost more than 4 games in his career at OU - lost 4 82 an 83 and followed that up with 9-2-1, 11-1, 11-1, 11-1 the next 4 seasons. Jimmy went 8-5 at Miami, then 10-2, 11-1, 12-0, 11-1. I think the big difference there is that players LOVED Jimmy Johnson. I was always under the impression that Switzer was a players coach at OU, but not 100% sure on that front - he was with the Cowboys which was part of the issue there.
I don't think anyone feels as much love for Jimbo as they did for Switzer and Jimmy.
Without the love for the coach, without competing for national championships - even if they win games they are going to have chasms that open up due to playing time, being thousands of miles away from home, etc.

Quite the tail off...outside of covid season his last season at FSU he's been above average.
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45 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:
Deal told Sarkisian that the Longhorns would get the last visit before a decision is made.
Seems huge.
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19 hours ago, TriStone said:
Not us. We'll follow the rules down to the letter, even if the rules are never enforced.
I’m interested and would like to hear @RGBIII or @closetojumping thoughts lately on how Plonsky has shifted in the new era. I know we’re doing everything by the book as far as burnt ends and HWH but is she still being a pest?
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20 hours ago, CooterBrown said:
There’s no illegal if there’s no enforcement. Do whatever the fuck you want. Everyone else will.

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