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Posts posted by BurntOrange&White
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1 minute ago, Tex-19 said:
So if boosters are the ones making contact with players to avoid technically tampering, what prevents a group like CFC from just going out and picking some players on their own to buy? I guess you have to make sure our coaches would take the guy but in a lot of cases I'd think that's an obvious yes (ex: literally any edge with a pulse).
In other words, I wonder if at some point the collectives end up driving this ship as much as the coaches at some schools.
Nothing.
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Do you guys have vertigo from this thing yet? Wild times.
Just when you think things are winding to a close, a few more names entered late that have UT’s interest. Who knows, perhaps a few more will become public before things are said and done.
Florida A&M outside linebacker Isaiah Land will receive an aggressive effort from Texas. We have no expectations in this recruitment as of now but just know they’ll gauge his interest.
Texas also has interest in Purdue safety Marvin Grant. Similar to land, we have no expectations at the moment.
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Can we rename this if you ain’t tampering you ain’t trying again?
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4 minutes ago, Poe It Up said:
Are there even repercussions for tampering right now?
No
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3 minutes ago, immamac said:
I know this has been covered many times, but once you jump in the portal your roster spot/scholarship is forfeit unless the team wants you back correct?
Correct. Once entered you can remain in school but your scholarship does not have to be renewed
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1 minute ago, Hiphopopotamos said:
IT says in addition to Washington 'they are closely watching another situation'.
Hopefully it’s not the guy rumored by the OB “insider.” Would suck to have to rely on Jamison all season
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Allegedly IT is reporting Marcus Washington to the portal.
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2 minutes ago, immamac said:
This is just false. There are literally laws in the state of Texas governing this, just because everyone is breaking the law doesn't mean the law doesn't exist.
Sounds like we’re the only one who follows them.
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3 minutes ago, Sandbagging Steve said:
ATM got busted before SMU and got off on a technicality. And then they didn't stop one damn. They didn't even try to find a new way, much less a legal way, to pay recruits and players. They just kept handing bags out (literally) on the front desk of high school coaches, right in the wide open. And then FedEx. LOL, they finally got busted again. And then they got busted one more time after getting penalized. They've never had any moral values.
What they are doing right now is actually 100% within the rules. Go ask Mark Emmert. It's the same thing all the other schools are doing and it is legally within the rules. A third party can pay a third party completely within the rules.
Not according to Texas.
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9 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:
The only realm in which players are going to be paid for their marketing value is hot women's sports athletes hocking diet pills and yoga pants on Instagram, and even that will be mostly BS.
Taylor Swift, international megastar, got $26M to peddle Diet Coke for a two-year ad run. Beyonce got $50M from Pepsi for even more years. These are the hottest celebrity properties in existence. Ochuan Mathis isn't 1/26th of a Swift in terms of marketing power. He's not even 1/26,000th.
Unless we're going to start legally requiring marketing deals to include strict comps to justify the amount spent or organize a salary cap, this shit is just the beginning and I'm loving every second of it.
(And as for comparing the NIL deals to major league salaries... those salaries are only that low because of salary caps. Trevor Lawrence is making $9M/yr on his rookie deal. Without a cap add a 0 to the end of that.
Did I compare to major league salaries? Comparing NIL to structured NFL draft compensation is retarded. Value is what donors and the power brokers determine it to be. If you want to get great players and compete at the highest levels you best bring your checkbook going forward.
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1 hour ago, immamac said:
As others have told you - NIL has nothing to do with on field performance and they are being conflated to the point where they are the same.
Endorsement value vs salary value. Some players are worth big endorsement dollars (sometimes even more than salary) others are only worth salary and are untouchable from endorsements.
This is such a naive approach. It was always going to be pay for play approach. The value associated with the NIL of a player was always 100% revolved around performance or what a school thought said player would do for their team.
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Just now, Hornlover said:
He said "We didn’t immediately address a single need outside of QB and WR." The need was addressed immediately when we signed them in December.
If he meant to say "we didn't get anybody to address the immediate need", then he should have said so.
Regardless, the extreme thirst for immediate roster gratification isn't what's best for this team in the long haul.
It wasn’t and relying on freshmen OL and DL is a fucking retarded strategy to take.
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53 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:
The sticks and stones appeared to have obscured my point from your view, apologies. And I lumped your idiot ideas together and attributed them to both, apologies
aggy has paid handsomely to be the first stop in the early, unregulated years of college free agency. While paying market rate for proven commodities has become a reality, they’ve chosen to take the more well trodden, illegal route of securing elite prospects. I understand that you think aggy made the smart move by signing an incredible class. My point is that aggy is the first stop for 75% of those guys, busts included, and it is a poor move in retrospect. Financially and strategically. It escalated more quickly than their plan hoped for.
Is this not the common sentiment? What’s the alternative opinion? They’ll future pay legitimately the ones that perform to stay in College Station and not go closer to home/bama/more money/out of cs? I just don’t understand that perspective.
Aggie is doing exactly as Georgia did a few years ago and what was the result from Georgia?
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1 minute ago, TheMailBox357 said:
Got damn I hate that this fat fuck made a good point
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2 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:
Looks like 3 million+ for one year rental of Biletnikoff winner.
Seems worth it. Doing whatever it takes to turn your team around as quickly as possible.
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19 minutes ago, Hermanator said:
It's the culture of the program. You take the best looking apple in an orchard and throw it in a bunch with rotting apples and it will turn bad. We have such a poor culture here we have video of the DL coach screaming at the team to get in the mother fucking portal because they're losers who accept losing. We have a senior player slamming his teammates to the media as not being committed and putting in the work.
That culture took hold under the last 2 to 3 years of Mack and so far 3 head coaches after haven't been able to change it. It's bigger than the players and bigger than the coaches at this point. We need an all around overhaul and Sark is attempting to do it. We need it to be clear you haven't achieved anything just by being here. You're only here to do what it takes to kick people's ass on fall Saturdays.
The culture is beyond players/coaches. Since Akers it seems like every hiring process is a banana republic. It’s top down issue. No one is aligned
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Just now, Barbacoa said:
What it comes down to is a we have a losing culture. You can blame it on all sorts of different things, but the reality is we don’t find ways to win.
The best question to ask is how did we get so good under Mack Brown? If you can answer that, you can see the path forward to fixing this deal. There is a shocking amount of naivety in our fan base regarding the answer to that question.
By hard work, dedication, and just a little luck?
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2 minutes ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:
Just to make sure we're absolutely clear
You two chucklefucks believe that overpaying 18yo's before they hit campus was the appropriate reaction to cfb free agency, and that aggy's payments to recruits and their families was entirely above board?
You're either being aggressively contrarian or are a case study in Dunning-Kruger.
Look at Georgia and what they got by them doing the exact same thing. Look at Alabama, look at Clemson, look at Ohio state. All have done it to get to where you want to be. Doing anything other is pissing in the wind.
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I think he’s on a 3 year contract