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There's going to be some grudge fucking in aggyland tonight

How the fuck did Aggy manage to win eight?

The further back we go the more horseshit the title claims become. The BCS and 4 team playoffs were bad enough, tons of teams didn't get invites. Prior to that, basically any sports writer could claim a school was the champ. Outside of Ohio St and Michigan, I can't think of a legacy Big 10 team that has done shit near an MNC in the past 50-55 years. It's literally been those 2 teams and the rest of the conference has been cannon fodder.

I understand if you compare it that way. If it helps, think of it like this The B12 plays 18 conference games and when the B12 had 10 teams, everyone played each other twice. The best of 18 games is a much tougher road to travel than the end of the season tourney. Basketball is also a lot more inclusive than football - a ton of teams get invited to the NCAA tournament and that doesn't even include the NIT, which has a bunch of teams too. Football has never been inclusive in that way. It's a limited invitational that's controlled by a minority.

That's correct the B10 doesn't play a round robin and hasn't for a while. "Except" was missing in my sentence for the b10. All of the conferences should have and should be playing the same # of conference games. The sec had avoided that shit like the plague, even before they were the undisputed best conference. I do agree the league kept doing stupid shit - that was lack of leadership plain and simple. To have a round robin + a CCG is fucking stupid. It also didn't help that the B12 hasn't produced a MNC since 2005. If we are going to be honest here, the conferences flagship programs, us and blowu, haven't been able to get it done. That contributed to college football realignment and the reshaping of the B12 just as much as poor conference leadership. I don't agree with you on the in-season / ccg champ distinction though. Once a league commits to a CCG and even though that sucks and is fucking stupid for a conference with a true round robin format, the winner of that game is the conference champ. A 2-team CCG is nothing like a conference basketball tourney, which requires multiple wins to crown the winner.

For a long time the B12 suffered from poor leadership overall, lack of vision and no balls. As far as the round robin goes - I was a big fan of it. Problem is, the sec had that CCG and never wavered from it. They pushed that shit on everyone else and lobbied the fuck out of everyone saying that game mattered more than playing a round robin or playing 9 conference games and enough people bought that bullshit. It really fucked over the P10 quite a few times, because the P10 was playing a round robin and that gives the conference 5 more guaranteed losses. The P10 was hosed out of an invite least 3-4 times from 2000-2010 or so. Anyways, my overall point is that everyone not in the sec has been playing on an uneven playing field for a while now. I guess the acc doesn't play 9 conference games either. But the b10 / p10-p12 and B12 have all had 9 conference games for a while and were playing a round robin for a long time. It didn't matter. The CCG and the extra datapoint was viewed as being better. So, the B12 picked it up again and your isu team lost. That or they did it for revenue. TBH having 9 conference games and a CCG seems like conference suicide to me.

It's nothing like basketball. The entire conference plays in the conference tournament in basketball. I know you want your participation trophy, but it would have been a very poor idea if the B12 tried to claim two champs, a season champ and CCG champ. Think of the 2014 season. I think it was tcu and baylor who finished with identical records? but one of them won the in-season game. Whomever that was should have been the champ. For some stupid fucking reason, both were listed as co-champs. It ended up fucking both teams out of an invite. The CFP committee was like "who is your champ" and the B12 was like "we are fucking stupid, we don't know". The B12 amended the rules that very off season. All that said, go full aggy and award yourself "in-season-champs" if you want.

There was a CCG and ISU lost that game. Claiming a Conference title despite that outcome is going full aggy

The entire state is trash. Oklahoma's 3 FBS teams are a combined 3-19 in conference this year. OU 2-5 Tulsa 1-6 OK Lite 0-8

A child born during aggy's last claimed national championship would be 85 years old in about 3 weeks.

Brent Venables is the kind of dude who closes the fridge door with his hip.