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1 hour ago, RPM said:
Boeing becomes GM. If we build shit they will buy it anyway.
Boeings CEO is an acolyte of Jack Welch, and is really following in his footsteps with destroying a formerly great American company
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55 minutes ago, bolverk said:
We have two choices: 1) continue to build up our democratic allies to hold them off at the risk of confrontation, or 2) retreat into isolationism and let the world fall under despots, authoritarians, and nationalists.
We need to brace ourselves for some tough decisions and get ready while hoping we don't tear ourselves apart from the inside. This feels like one of those early 20th Century-type moments.
This feels exactly like the interwar period in the early 20th century - lots of agents of chaos stirring the pot so that despots have a more free hand to do their deeds.
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It's really something else how some folks think that misrepresenting and occasionally making up your own facts is a "difference in opinion". You're right slorch, theres not much debate to be had when the thing being disagreed upon is what "is", and the opposing voice has no reasoning or supporting info besides "it just IS!!" Nevermind any court findings or multiple verified reports from journalistic outlets that are equivocated with some opinion piece from an extremist outlet.
The Internet has been fucking awash with disinformation, and surly was particularly awful with it during COVID and the 2020 summer of love through Jan 6 when it peaked and the worst offenders finally started catching bans for their repeated bullshit posting.
There was SUCH a distinct pattern and behavior of "well this link says I'm right so I'm gonna ignore EVERYTHING else". I think that history is a major part of what fueled everyone's reaction - we've seen that shit before, and it's never been in good faith.
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These ball spots have been atrocious
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1 hour ago, FirstTimeCaller said:
The other links he posted were from solid sources for discussion but it was too late.
I broadly agree with what the essence of your post is saying - but even when bringing other links, LHL was materially misrepresenting what those links said and doubling and tripling down. He would not listen to people pointing out what LHLs links said the opposite of what he claimed, and so people ratcheted up. He moved from one hollow assertion to another, and people replied to each failed assertion in kind. He even admitted that he did not plan to participate in a discussion and just wanted to stir the pot.
It would be dog piling if it was 3 pages of everyone quoting the same post and repeating the same thing. It's not dog piling to reply to the false assertions that someone makes as they make them.
I just don't understand using this dude as your example case, imma. He was not, by his own admission, there to be a "funny dickhead" or to actually talk about the issue. Just to be a dickhead.
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3 minutes ago, Parliament said:
But it's stainless steel so it won't rust I guess?
It's stain "less" not stain "proof" steel amirite? But no, 301 stainless will corrode over time when exposed to chlorides - like road salt. There are better grades of stainless that have lower carbon content and more chromium, but that's not what elmo put in his truck
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2 hours ago, Viper said:
That's wild that war thunder is that accurate in their armor modeling lol. It's also ironic that a free to play game out of russia is helping to kill more russians
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7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:
They used 301 stainless steel too, which is not meant for heavy duty exterior use. If they put a clear coat on it, it'd be fine - but Tesla is rawdoggin the cyber truck. Anyone driving a cyber truck on a salted road is gonna have a baaaaad time
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I think Imma got the reaction he did because he was validating LHL's performative victimhood, which has really become a fucking drag on discussions in general. Any time someone gets pushback, they have a lazy out to just say "boo hoo mean old CR slime" and the site owners take them seriously.
It's enabled so much bad faith posting and echo chamber crap because everyone has decided that "the CR must be bad because everyone says it is", and it's used to shut down discussion when folks are just too lazy to defend their lazy positions
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49 minutes ago, SurlyGator said:
You guys can flame me all you want, but the "Go woke, go broke" cause and effect appears to be rather consistent, whether you like it or not.
You're right, SIs decline was purely political and had nothing to do with the changing habits of their readership or their short term optimized business plan.
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I'll be damned, Robb County has convened a grand jury to consider charges for law enforcement officers who sat idle during the massacre
https://www.uvaldeleadernews.com/articles/grand-jury-begins-examining-robb-school-investigation/
QuoteA jury has been convened in Uvalde to determine if law enforcement officers will face criminal charges related to the attack at Robb Elementary School.
On Friday, Jan. 19, a dozen people were selected to serve on a special grand jury that is expected to spend at least six months studying the May 24, 2022, Robb school shooting investigation.
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Jury duties
A grand jury reviews dozens of cases presented by law enforcement officials and they decided to “true bill or no bill,” requiring affirmative votes from at least nine jurors of whether they think a felony case has enough evidence to move forward with an indictment.
In Uvalde County, misdemeanor cases are handles by the county attorney.
For the Robb investigation, the process is a little different, with jurors focusing on the single topic of the Robb shooting, and serving as investigative tools for the prosecutor with power to subpoena witnesses and compel evidence.
This type of jury is utilized for complex cases that may be labor-intensive, including public corruption cases.
Jurors may meet about twice a month, depending upon work schedules, as they hear testimony from witnesses and study the case presented by Mitchell. At the end of the procedure, they should make a recommendation and possibly issue a report on their findings.
Plans to convene the grand jury began last year, and took several months. Timing played out in such a way that the jury convened one day after the U.S. Department of Justice presented a nearly 600-page report critical of local leaders actions, citing disorganization and lack of unified command during the Robb attack.
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An ongoing debate, particularly seen in the wake of the Robb shooting, is whether police have a moral imperative to take action sooner in mass casualty situations, which often see a delay before an attacker is confronted.
Though medical findings have not been made public, families allege some of those who died after the attack might have lived if bleeding had been staunched and they received medical treatment.
Several Uvalde Police officers who were on the scene within minutes charged forward toward the adjoined classrooms where the attacker was, but were repelled after he fired at them. Two officers were wounded by shrapnel, and though one tried again to move forward, no others would follow. Officers told others the attacker had an AR rifle, and the destructive power of the weapon was likely a factor in guiding police decisions.
From the article it seems that since the county attorney handles misdemeanors, this GJ is (presumably) only considering felony charges. I am thankful to see some actual accountability coming.
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46 minutes ago, slorch said:
Page 1 should suffice.
Just to reply directly to this: there's nothing "toxic" in page 1 and it's all well sourced discussion including direct quotes of the governor. Youre trying to do the same LHL did in just posting a headline and ignoring that reality doesn't back you up. And then getting weirdly self righteous about it, of course.
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33 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:
What's crazy is that less than two years ago Arena was bragging about how much money it was making:
https://pressroom.si.com/press-releases/the-arena-group-reports-full-year-2022-revenue-of-221-million-driven-by-a-nearly-74-year-over-year-increase-in-digital-advertising-revenue
A business group living it up quarter to quarter while ignoring the long term instability they're accruing? Something like that would never happen!
The linked article includes the seeds of their downfall:
QuoteThe Company reported significant improvements in both top-and bottom-line results in 2022, driving record revenues of more than $221 million, while reducing operating expenses by nearly $20 million over that time. In the fourth quarter of 2022, the Company reported revenue from continuing operations of $61.7 million while reducing operating expenses by more than 30%.
These results were driven by significant gains in digital advertising and licensing and syndication, and new lines of revenue in online betting and e-commerce, while managing headwinds and declines in the legacy print and subscription lines. Overall, the Company reported its highest full-year revenue and profits in its history.
Cutting expenses (read: paying for fewer writers) while amping up advertising monetization (replacing now missing/thin content with ads) sounds like a quarter or two of good money, and then nobody will want your enshittified product anymore
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It's incredible how much you are misrepresenting that thread and it's discussion, imma. A couple of folks have had hot takes that Abbott is directly responsible, but that's not the focus of the discussion. It's mainly just debunking LHL's talking points from "the right source".
You still haven't linked a specific grievance or problem post, you're just repeating the same "well it's JUST BAD, ohkay??" and repeating your misrepresentation.
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17 minutes ago, Anastasis said:
An honest assessment across the CR would land on twitter embeds as being the most common source of dis/misinformation in the discussions.
I don't disagree that Twitter embeds were and are a terrible source of good information, but contemporaneously it was the best way to find out what was happening in our government. Like, cabinet members found out they were fired via Twitter for fucks sake lol.
I do think more stringent rules on sourcing would go a LONG way to cutting back the bullshit, but that doesn't really fix the underlying problem of folks just ignoring facts and defending it as an opinion. And it wouldn't really have prevented the LHL situation since he just refused to address any of the court filings or well sourced reporting that directly refuted his """opinion""" from the national review
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4 minutes ago, slorch said:Our facts are the facts.
Any deviation is a troll move.
#CR these days. It's not worth the fucking discussion.
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On 1/18/2024 at 7:43 AM, TwiceHorn said:It's what all the CR critics do.
The initial attempt may have been made to argue in good faith, but their media sources are always absolute shit.
Erstwhile CR posters "do their own research" and within a matter of minutes have debunked the basic point of argument, or at the very least the most outrageous aspects of it, e.g. Biden lied.
It's not trolling, per se, but it is a strident argument, followed by a pantsing, followed by mumbling and departure of the poster.
It's amazing how that pattern works.
Nonetheless, I don't really love calling it trolling or attempting to crowd source the poster. People come on the sports boards with ill-founded hot takes all the time, get pantsed, maybe catch a few negs, and that's it. The pantsing is sufficient.
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Well it'll help when companies aren't gouging for profits as much too
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/19/us-inflation-caused-by-corporate-profits
QuoteNearly 60% of the drop in key goods and services’ inputs was driven by large declines in energy costs, such as jet fuel and diesel fuel, while transportation and warehousing costs have fallen by nearly 4% since June 2022 peaks.
Still, prices remain high. Consumers are still paying about 25% more for groceries, the report notes as an example.
Corporations maintain high prices by exploiting cost shocks caused by events like the Ukraine war and coordinating price hikes, said Isabella Weber, a University of Massachusetts Amherst economist who was not part of the paper.
The shocks create an environment in which it is safe for firms to increase prices as they expect their competitors to do the same, said Weber.
“This is a form of implicit collusion,” she said. “Firms do not even need to talk to one another to know that a cost shock is a great time to raise prices. But when costs fall, price setting firms do not have any incentive to decrease prices.”
If no firms launch a price war, Weber added, then companies “hold the line” on prices and widen margins. She pointed to food processors as an example.
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18 minutes ago, immamac said:
Look at the same people commenting in this thread. This is the actual problem. There are thousands of users here not 20. I receive all kinds of DMs and complaints via reported posts about this that you don’t see. Is a problem. I think going no secondary sources would open up the discussion quite a bit we can try that.
primary sources only meaning direct quotes from involves parties or official communications from agencies. Actual legislature and proposed legislation links etc.
It's not just sourcing though - LHL straight up admitted to wanting to troll the thread and refused to actually answer any reasonable challenges to his sources or counterfactual claims. I'm not sure why you're defending him and his urge to submit straight up lies as a "difference in opinion". It's not in good faith, and I'm not sure why you're not more mad at him for coming into the thread with no intent of actual discussion.
You mention getting "all kinds of DMs and complaints" - I'd be curious to know the essence of those complaints. It's a bad habit on your board to turn off your brain and complain "muh CR!" when they just want to disengage from a conversation they can't defend. Just like how LHL pinched off a fatty of a shitpost and got called out for it, and ran away to beseech the mods rather than defend their point. Like, do you think people need to be less surly? Because I still can't find a single post in that thread - and you haven't provided one (even though you said you had lol) - of specific language or "dogpiling" a poster. He was not dogpiled, his shitty sourcing was.
Just really weird to see you get so animated and hard headed about this and refusing to see the facts. Did a croot complain or something? I've seen people get immolated on the football board wayyyyyy worse
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1 hour ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:
One of many unfortunate casualties of that upper stage failure. Lotta years of blood sweat and tears getting burned up on reentry
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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:
I think the problem there is that the military will avoid involvement in domestic affairs, either as Trump's minions or, most likely, against pro-Trump "forces."
Or they'll stand by while the capital is attacked, like on Jan 6. Failure to prevent a coup from an internal enemy is a pretty severe breach of duty and their oath.
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51 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
Pretty good writeup on why the nazis were "national socialists", but it basically boils down to a propaganda play. FTA:
QuoteOver the following years the brothers Otto and Gregor Strasser did much to grow the party by tying Hitler’s racist nationalism to socialist rhetoric that appealed to the suffering lower middle classes. In doing so, the Strassers also succeeded in expanding the Nazi reach beyond its traditional Bavarian base. By the late 1920s, however, with the German economy in free fall, Hitler had enlisted support from wealthy industrialists who sought to pursue avowedly anti-socialist policies.
Elon really has got the brain worms, it's wild to see the decline in realtime
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57 minutes ago, immamac said:
I’m frustrated that it’s such a stupid thread not that that a particular poster is being picked on.
IMO you should consider rules and policies on factual discussions and posts then. If someone is arguing things that are factually untrue, then any thread with that person is gonna go to shit. All the oxygen for discussion will be eaten up by just getting basic facts straight.
That's exactly what happened in that thread. The fix isn't telling people to be less mean, it's to tell them to stop presenting bullshit headlines as irrefutable fact.
The posts in that thread you're doing your weird high road act on pretty clearly and calmly lay it all out. Genuinely, you're more passionate than anyone in that thread - and you're strangely not mad at the person pooping in the punchbowl, but don't like that people are trying to fish the turd out
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11 minutes ago, immamac said:
I didn’t white knight shit or defend any position. I said stop dogpiling and move on it was a dead discussion with longhorn love and it was obvious to anyone with functioning brain cells.
LHL was continuing to press a falsehood and insist shit to be true without evidence, even when presented with facts to the opposite.
2 minutes ago, immamac said:I’m done with that thread. You guys can just do whatever the fuck you want in there it’s not even worth reading anymore.
Just not sure what you're so mad about lol, it's like LHL lit a bat signal for you and you came in from the top rope to defend someone posting """alternative facts"""
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2 minutes ago, immamac said:
I’m trying to be a steward for the entire community not just some very small very vocal subsegment that can’t figure out their toxicity is alienating what could probably be a decent discussion on a pretty hot and important topic.
Just to be clear, you're defending someone who's only contributions to the thread were a link from the national review whose evidence doesn't support the claims in its headline, and was disputing that TNG prevented CBP from rescuing a drowning mother and daughter. What's the decent discussion to be had? That our state should not be letting people drown in the river?
Genuinely, can you point to a specific exchange as toxic in that thread? It's just a loop of LHL making an unfounded assertion, and then everyone pushing back with actual facts to counter "The Right Scoop" from NR.
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DACA, immigration reform whatever
in Cloak Room
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Andrew Fuckin Callaghan of Channel 5 News does some incredible journalism
genuinely excellent field reporting and interview work of a terrible crisis